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Puck The Texan
Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596
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Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:04 pm |
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Quote: | And I never felt in danger. Saddam never threatened us, never attacked us, nothing.
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I do not know what *beep* fantasy world you are living in. Have you not seen the overwhelming information of his ties to Al-Queda?
And why does it make a difference WHEN he threatened us? He hasn't gotten any nicer since Bush Sr. was in office.
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LightningBoy Commodore
Joined: 09 Mar 2003 Posts: 1446 Location: Minnesota, U.S.A.
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Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:24 pm |
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Defiant wrote: | The terrorists hate us because the presidents try to be the police of the world. All of them do it. Clinton did Kosovo, and all the presidents before him too. Bush took it too far though, with all this *beep*.
Besides that, terrorists dont like that we are all lazy, in the lapt of luxury, and completely secure. They hate our way of life.
Now if youll excuse me, I am extremely tired, and cant read words anymore. |
Islamic terrorists hate us because they see our wealth, success, and well being as a form of greed. That and the fact that we support Israel, who they regularly attack for religious reasons.
There is NO REASON for us to stay out of other coutry's affairs. We stayed out of Russia's affairs right after WW2, and look what that did, Millions were slaughtered by Stalin, which WE could've stopped.
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Link, the Hero of Time Vice Admiral
Joined: 15 Sep 2001 Posts: 5581 Location: Kokori Forest, Hyrule
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Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:40 pm |
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kmma wrote: | First of all the military is not a lie Link. Don't even go there. you must not even read everything. You only quote parts you see fit. I rather trust the military than I would the crappy media. Media lies and spinns things around to the Democratic views. Note military stands for Truth, honor , loyality and just. some dont keep it but 100% keep that. |
Actully, everything you put down I read. I could have posted more parts, but that would have been a waste of time. Again it's mostly speculation.
Trust the military all you want, they lie more then any media person ever will. Do you really think that the military tells everything about it's missions? If you think that, step out of your happy dream land for a second and look at the truth.
kmma wrote: | First of all Link, I did show proof. I showed and you say its a waste of time cause you fail to read everything. And military is more reliable than the media.
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'And it seems to show you and defiant don't know what went on except by the lying media. So you say the soldiers a lie, guess how you think of your country and military who defends you butt. |
Did you actully read all that material, most of it is just speculation about different things. You can't call sepeculation "Proof" Read it all. Look past the pride that's blinding you.
Again, I use White House related websites or FOXNews for my information.
kmma wrote: | That is how you see it and you democrats who has one track minds and dont see the truth obivously with due respect not trying to bash or force or start an arguement. |
So says the person who's started more arguments forcing beliefs on others.
Again, step out of the perfect world for a look at the real one. Republicans have one track minds and cant see the truth just as much as Democrats.
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Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:46 pm |
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I do not have a one track mind thats democrats. I am not living in a dream thankyou.
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LightningBoy Commodore
Joined: 09 Mar 2003 Posts: 1446 Location: Minnesota, U.S.A.
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Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:15 pm |
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You're not supposed to be open minded, that's how your brain falls out.
Anyone who calls someone else closed minded is a hypocrite, because they're too "closed minded" to accept that other people have their own views, and may not like theirs'.
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charlie American Soldier
Joined: 26 Feb 2004 Posts: 598 Location: In The United States
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Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:54 pm |
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no what kmma is talking about is on that sight they have actual un inspection documents from before the war. one of which sighted a mustard gas stock pile that they had, the un inspectors, started to destroy. were did it go and why do we not hear about it now. this was from the un not the us, fox or any other american source.
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Link, the Hero of Time Vice Admiral
Joined: 15 Sep 2001 Posts: 5581 Location: Kokori Forest, Hyrule
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Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:42 pm |
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I do believe I said:
Link, the Hero of Time wrote: | All of what's said in UN Documents is what we already know. Found Supplies that related to Missle Propellant, and stuff about unresolved disarmarment issues
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The Unresolved Disarmarment issues being the things like Mustard Gas, Sarin gas, etc.
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Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:35 pm |
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so where did it go. why is it not being found.
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Link, the Hero of Time Vice Admiral
Joined: 15 Sep 2001 Posts: 5581 Location: Kokori Forest, Hyrule
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Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:26 pm |
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I don't have Johnny Smith's psychic abilities so I am unable to answer that.
It was either Destroyed, Buried or being hoarded in vast numbers. Again, I can only speculate. and There is no credability in speculations, only hard evidence.
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Defiant Fleet Admiral
Joined: 04 Jul 2001 Posts: 15946 Location: Oregon City, OR
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Puck The Texan
Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596
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Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:54 pm |
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Ok, if I don't beleive Michael Moore, do you really think that I am going to take anything that MichaelMoore.com says seriously. No.
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Pah-Wraith Sheikh
Joined: 30 Nov 2001 Posts: 6012 Location: Londonistan.
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Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:37 pm |
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LightningBoy wrote: | Islamic terrorists hate us because they see our wealth, success, and well being as a form of greed. That and the fact that we support Israel, who they regularly attack for religious reasons. |
Osama Ibn Laden (along with all the dirty rich Wahabis) was richer than the Average American by far so essentially that rules out the Wealth part. (The rest is probably true)
Hmm attack for Religious reasons?- emm No, it's more for political reasons, I'm a Sunni Muslim so are you going to claim It's in my religion to attack Israel?
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Defiant Fleet Admiral
Joined: 04 Jul 2001 Posts: 15946 Location: Oregon City, OR
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Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:39 pm |
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JanewayIsHott wrote: | Ok, if I don't beleive Michael Moore, do you really think that I am going to take anything that MichaelMoore.com says seriously. No. |
I know you wont, because you dont want to back down. No one will. But, the facts are true. Michael Moore is NOT a liar.
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Pah-Wraith Sheikh
Joined: 30 Nov 2001 Posts: 6012 Location: Londonistan.
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Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:43 pm |
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kmma wrote: | I do not have a one track mind thats democrats. I am not living in a dream thankyou. |
Kmma, you constantly make snide comments about Liberals, Democrats and occasionally socialists but do you even know what the political definitions of any of these are.
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Defiant Fleet Admiral
Joined: 04 Jul 2001 Posts: 15946 Location: Oregon City, OR
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Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:46 pm |
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Well put Sean. Too bad she wont listen to reason.
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Puck The Texan
Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596
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Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:13 pm |
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Defiant wrote: | JanewayIsHott wrote: | Ok, if I don't beleive Michael Moore, do you really think that I am going to take anything that MichaelMoore.com says seriously. No. |
I know you wont, because you dont want to back down. No one will. But, the facts are true. Michael Moore is NOT a liar. |
You wanna talk facts, then get me some conrete facts from a concrete, reliable source. YOU are the one that does not want to back down, and accept that just maybe not everything in this "documentary" is true, because if it is not true, then you don't have as much to attack Bush with.
And it suprises me to hear YOU talk about people not listening to reason....
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Defiant Fleet Admiral
Joined: 04 Jul 2001 Posts: 15946 Location: Oregon City, OR
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Puck The Texan
Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596
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Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:09 pm |
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Yeah, if Michael Moore is the only place that you consider your "source" then fine. You just go ahead. It is obvious that you just won't listen to reason, and instead go to people like Michael Moore who live in some idealogical fantasy world for your information. But that is fine with me, it is clear you are closed to anything that disagrees with your agenda, and I will not debate this with you.
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Link, the Hero of Time Vice Admiral
Joined: 15 Sep 2001 Posts: 5581 Location: Kokori Forest, Hyrule
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Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:10 pm |
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hmmm... That is some good factual references.
Even though it is Michael Moore's site there are the concrete sources you are looking for janeway. Newpapers, 1st hand accounts, etc.
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Defiant Fleet Admiral
Joined: 04 Jul 2001 Posts: 15946 Location: Oregon City, OR
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Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:00 pm |
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JanewayIsHott wrote: | Yeah, if Michael Moore is the only place that you consider your "source" then fine. You just go ahead. It is obvious that you just won't listen to reason, and instead go to people like Michael Moore who live in some idealogical fantasy world for your information. But that is fine with me, it is clear you are closed to anything that disagrees with your agenda, and I will not debate this with you. |
So? Look at the references. Actually look at the references. Then, check them yourself! Its all out in the open, no dispute is possible, because the exact source is stated!!!
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Founder Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
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Wed Jul 14, 2004 2:57 am |
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This movie is mainly propaganda. This man lives in a world where he believes peace will solve everything. War is wrong. Yadda Yadda Yadda. It sounds like an appealing world I agree. But sadly thats not the way things work.
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Kyre Commodore
Joined: 15 Mar 2002 Posts: 1263
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Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:22 pm |
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So war is right? Wow, such a simple mistake to make and yet, apparently, so critical.
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Puck The Texan
Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596
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Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:17 pm |
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Yes, war is necessary sometimes. If someone can't see that, they don't live in the real world.
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Kyre Commodore
Joined: 15 Mar 2002 Posts: 1263
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Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:46 pm |
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Give me an example of a nation starting a war/being aggressive that subsequently benefited from it.
But sometimes, obviously, it's necessary to get into a war by defending yourselves. WW2 being the most obvious.
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Puck The Texan
Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596
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Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:28 pm |
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The war on terrorism will benefit the world.....that seems like an obvious one.
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