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Defiant
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 Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:29 pm Fahrenheit 9/11 |
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The new Michael Moore movie that has swept the nation.
I went to see it on Friday, when it came out, and WOW. I was absolutely stunned to see all the footage they showed. And I know all you Republicans will dismiss all the information as false, but really, can you deny all that?
I think everyone should definetly go see this movie. Its compelling, real, and you cant ignore some of the facts that are seen!
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Leo Wyatt
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| Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:31 pm |
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Michael Moore is a moran and a disgrace to the human race, he is nothing but a liar. I don't want to start an agruement here just stating my opinion of the guy. I did not waste my time and my husband hard earn money to see it.
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Puck
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| Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:08 pm Re: Fahrenheit 9/11 |
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| Defiant wrote: | The new Michael Moore movie that has swept the nation.
I went to see it on Friday, when it came out, and WOW. I was absolutely stunned to see all the footage they showed. And I know all you Republicans will dismiss all the information as false, but really, can you deny all that?
I think everyone should definetly go see this movie. Its compelling, real, and you cant ignore some of the facts that are seen! |
I don't know? Can you deny all of that? Why don't you go research everything that was so "stunning". Personally, I am not going to take Mr. Moore's word that easily.
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LightningBoy
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| Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:11 pm |
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How do we know that they're facts.
In Bowling for Columbine, Moore was caught with his pants down with many of his "facts"...
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Kyre
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| Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:33 pm |
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Obviously Bush lovers will hate 9/11, and Bush haters will love it. The facts are as follows:
-Farenheit 9/11 will be interesting, very very interesting to watch, regardless of your opinion of Bush. I don't think you're doing anyone any justice by assuming that the entire piece is one big Bush bash.
-Don't believe that everything Moore shows will be 100% genuine. In Bowling for Columbine he edited an admirable speech by Charlton Heston into a rally akin to something Hilter would do (although I still disagree entirely with the NRA, to the extent that I understand it, and it's policies). And I have read articles which say that in 9/11 he cut part of a conversation with some American politician, to get across he was ignorant about the war in Iraq, when infact he had a nephew about to be sent over there.
-Lastly, don't let Moore make up your mind about Bush/ Iraq,/America for you. Digest what you see, and compare it with what you already know, but don't leave the cinema blinded by snappy editing and some fat, loveable guy who's not as harmless as he appears to be.
I'm looking forward to seeing it anyway.
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| Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:42 pm |
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| kmma wrote: | | Michael Moore is a moran and a disgrace to the human race, he is nothing but a liar. I don't want to start an agruement here just stating my opinion of the guy. I did not waste my time and my husband hard earn money to see it. |
i thoughtit was okay but i liked it a lot. and just because he made one bad documentary doesnt mean he is a moron
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You got a point you shouldn't Slander someone just based on if you like them or not. I have a question for Kmma how would you like it if people called you names based on how you felt? I mean I could call you names for being all religous. I'm not sure if people will understand what I said. I'm just trying to prove a point that we shouldn't attack or call people names based on how they feel.
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| Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:49 pm |
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^It has nothing to do with that. It has to do with the fact that the man is an admitted liar. I constantly lie to you, and you'll come to me for information, hoping to hear the truth? Tssss, I'd hope you have more sense than that.
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| Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:07 pm |
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What do you mean by that? That he has admitted to lying sometimes, or that it has been proven that he has lied, or it is popular belief that he is a liar? Don't jump the gun and start threatening me with a ban by the way...just a genuine question.
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Puck
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| Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:48 pm |
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| Jeff Miller wrote: | | You got a point you shouldn't Slander someone just based on if you like them or not. I have a question for Kmma how would you like it if people called you names based on how you felt? I mean I could call you names for being all religous. I'm not sure if people will understand what I said. I'm just trying to prove a point that we shouldn't attack or call people names based on how they feel. |
Oh please. Don't give me this "Poor Mikey, those damn right-wing nazi bastards are just unrelentless in there slander of him." It is not how he felt, but what he is doing. This movie is PURE propaganda, that Gobbel himself would applaud, it blends fantasy, with truths, with half-truths, with one sidedness. He undermines the administration my giving this movie to the public...some of whom are ignorant enough to buy the whole thing. Everyone is aloud to their veiws, but when someone who has the power to shape the veiws of others puts out propaganda like this and calls it the truth, it is dispicable.
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| Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:09 pm |
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Seriosuly, all you people call Michael Moore an outright liar, and you havent even seen the movie!!! DONT JUDGE WHAT YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT.
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| Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:12 pm |
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And Deb, I will MAIL YOU THE MONEY, to go see this movie. If you actually will go see it, I will pay for it. No *beep*. 100% serious. You should see the movie, even if you dont believe in what its saying. You could at the very least relate to alot of stuff about the war, since he says alot about Iraq, with no particular attacks on Bush.
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| Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:14 pm |
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I know who Michael Moore is, and I don't ignore the facts. He lies. When someone constantly follows the same pattern of behavior.......I do not need to see the movie to know that he lies. The only people that buy this movie are left-wing idealogues who live in there own fantasy world, and/or are ignorant. Plus, I have read reveiws. He himself the other day was saying this movie was solid facts. Now, when asked again about this, he said something along the lines of "it is kind of like a political cartoon".
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| Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:35 pm |
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Sorry Defiant, I have to decline because with due respect, noone will change my mind about Michael Moore. Yes, he is a moran. I will not watch something from White Trash like him.
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Defiant
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| Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:39 pm |
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LOL. Thats funny. You should go see it though. No offense, but you have such a closed mind! I know you arent going to change your mind, or like Michael Moore, but you should go see the movie!
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Theresa
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| Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:29 pm |
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| Kyre wrote: | | What do you mean by that? That he has admitted to lying sometimes, or that it has been proven that he has lied, or it is popular belief that he is a liar? Don't jump the gun and start threatening me with a ban by the way...just a genuine question. |
Don't be an *beep*, k?
And why don't some of you do your own research now and then, instead of having someone else do it for you? He has ADMITTED lying. It has been PROVEN he lied. And from what I see, "popular belief" is either one extreme or the other.
The last line of your post was purely antagonistic. And yes, that is MY view. I've talked to you before, and you know that I will answer sincere questions. Don't *beep* with me, 'cause I'm really not in the mood. Ever.
And Mark, yeah, you are one to talk about "closed minds".
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| Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:07 pm |
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| Janeway_74656 wrote: | | kmma wrote: | | Michael Moore is a moran and a disgrace to the human race, he is nothing but a liar. I don't want to start an agruement here just stating my opinion of the guy. I did not waste my time and my husband hard earn money to see it. |
i thoughtit was okay, but i liked it a lot. and just because he made one bad documentary doesn't mean he is a moron. |
Before pointing out other's typos, you might ought to take care of your own, 
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| Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:57 pm |
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| Theresa wrote: | | And Mark, yeah, you are one to talk about "closed minds". |
EXCUSE me???
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| Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:03 am |
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Well, you know the saying, what's good for the goose...
Are your own words acceptable for you?
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Not at all my intention, and you know it. In my opinion, you are blinded by your love for Bush, so much you cant see his flaws. No worries, its the opposite for me and Kerry, except that I am blinded by hate for Bush.
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Whenever someone claims to be "blinded", they are also claiming to be closeminded, as neither can ever "see" beyond themselves.
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| Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:15 am |
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Thats completely taken out of context, and you know it.
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| Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:17 am |
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How so? I read, and reread the topic. That is YOUR opinion. YOU posted it. Goodness...
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There is no wrong thing about bush with all due respect. Just because he wants to Protect your country America, You all want to bash him.
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Not to cause an arguement cause I think you are a nice person, I am not blinded by my love for Bush. Iknow a good President. And Kerry is not going to be a good one in my eyes. Iwill not feel safe if Kerry gets elected. I will feel sorry for America if Kerry gets elected. We don't need no immoral president in office especially a democrat. |
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| Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:31 am |
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Seriously, still taken out of context. No matter how many times you read it. And now that we are all so very far off topic, lets get back to it.
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| Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:34 am |
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*Shrug* I don't see how, but if you say so...
And I still don't care for Moore. The more I read about him... yeah.
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| Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:39 am |
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I realize not all what he says can be true, but I think that so much of it just couldnt be false! And his documentary has alot of clips of Bush looking stupid, which is kinda Moore only picking out the worst moments, but I think so much of that it absolutely true! Also, how Bush learned about 9/11, and just sat there in the classroom. Like 10 minutes later, and after hearing about the 2nd plane hitting, THEN he went and made a statement. Pretty bad.
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| Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:42 am |
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Sorry every word out of his trashy mouth has to be a lie. he is disgusting to look at when I see someone interviewing him , disgust so bad he makes me wanna Pruke. I have to turn it.
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