Please explain this to me

Leo Wyatt · **Thu Jun 10, 2004 12:27 pm**

Are there always?

Anubis2k4 · Lieutenant Commander Joined: 25 Apr 2004 Posts: 308

Seems quite a few of you think the Lib Dems would be too liberal, but here in St Helens we aren't getting that reaction. We got the election results in last night (i was at the count

) and the Lib Dems have gained quite a few seats, the Lib Dems have actually got enough to make Labour lose control of the council

. Next election, the Lib Dems just need 3 more seats to gain full control of the council.
Oh, for anyone wondering why i was at the count my mum, dad, and grandad stood for the Lib Dems, i was a counting agent for my grandad. My mum and dad got in but my grandad didnt

Well theres always next elections.

PrankishSmart · **Sat Jun 12, 2004 7:01 am Re: Please explain this to me**

Leo Wyatt · **Sat Jun 12, 2004 7:07 am**

Hey now we ain't no control freaks

Theresa · **Sat Jun 12, 2004 9:00 am**

Yeah, Bush isn't as apt to be controlled by the rest of the world as Clinton was. Hell, half our military disappeared under Clinton, what other nation wouldn't like that?

We've been under attack by terrorists for years. Ex. USS Cole, embassies... prior attack on WTC... Yes, mostly on foreign soil, but that doesn't really matter, now does it? (And no, I'm not comparing the US to any other country that is bothered by terrorists, so don't you, (generalization) either.) But why should any country have to put up with terrorism on the scale it's grown to now? Think about it. Terrorists are organized. They have armies. If they continue on in such a manner, do you think this world will be a very pleasant place to live? Someone must stop them, and if Bush decides it's us, and Tony Blair decides to help him, along with some other countries, then fine. Someone has to have the balls. One thing that can never be doubted is Bush's follow through once he starts something.
The popular thing isn't always the right thing, nor is the unpopular thing always the wrong thing. From what I can see, it comes back to the US controlling herself, and making her own decisions, or being controlled by the rest of the world.
Here we have the citizens in Haiti, their "soldiers" killing the children, and the people asking the US soldiers, "Where were you? Why didn't you stop this?" And here we have Iraq. Where citizens did ask for help, and were given it. (Yes, there were more reasons than that, but that makes that fact no less true.) And the rest of the modern world has a, for lack of a better term, shi*t fit.
Which is it? Are we to act, or sit on our hands? Are we to think for ourselves, or wait until we get permission from the rest of the world? Like the rest of the more civilized countries, we are part of the UN, (as pathetic as that is), but that does not give the UN, nor the rest of the world control over us. We are a "Sovereign Nation", just like you. And we won't capitulate whenever most of the world thinks we should.
And that, I think is the major point of contention.
With the smiley, I'm to assume that the comment about "control freaks" was said in jest, fine. But don't you think the reverse is also a possibility? That we won't be controlled?
And if you've ever noticed, it's always the rebels that have changed the world.

BTW, Everytime the word "you" was used in that post, it was not directed at one 'single' person, only the person reading that post, so that they can apply it to themselves.

Seven of Nine · **Sat Jun 12, 2004 11:26 am**

Lib Dems didn't do too well here, but I've got one Lib Dem councillor (Winlaton and High Spen ward, Gateshead). The other two are Labour. The Lib Dems did amazingly in Newcastle, taking over from Labour, who have run it for over 30 years!

Now to find out about the European Elections... results out tomorrow (Sunday).

Anubis2k4 · Lieutenant Commander Joined: 25 Apr 2004 Posts: 308

Yeah i heard about Newcastle, great news. Anyway European Election results today, somehow i doubt the Lib Dems have got enough support to win it yet but i hope they do.

Joey · Rear Admiral Joined: 13 Jul 2001 Posts: 4708

NewWorldOrder · Freshman Cadet Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 9

When you learn what The Skull And Bones are..What The Word Of Lucifer is And What The Illuminiti is...you'll see why Bush and America arent soo liked.

Joey · Rear Admiral Joined: 13 Jul 2001 Posts: 4708

y dont u tell us?

Jeremy · **Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:00 am**

(He was banned, so that could be slightly difficult...

)

I've noticed that Iraq now seems to have affected Sudan. Depsite the massacares that are going on there no country has gone in to do anything. Is it because all the polatitians are all to scared now that they have seen what's happened to Bush's popularity, and that the same could happen to them in their countries? American, in a way has an excuse, as they are dealing with Iraq at the moment. But what about the rest? The rains are going to be coming in a few weeks, and when they do then no aid will get through to the people. It is a totally sick situation, and the people are being killed in horric incidents, such as the 9 month pregnant mum who was hit by a bomb, which cut her open and the baby fell out, but no-one does anything about it. Britain alone has given over 2 times the amount of money than ALL the rest of the EU put together. If other countries don't do anything for situations like this and America does then I fully support America.

superwoman · **Mon Jun 21, 2004 2:46 pm**

Theresa · **Mon Jun 21, 2004 2:53 pm**

Tell me, what's Maine's currency? Do we take Canadian money, or must they exchange it before spending it? Hmmm? Is the peso considered legal tender in Texas?
You'll forgive us if we don't find your currency as fascinating as you do. And did you know when you say "Americans", that includes South, not just North America? If you'd like us to be more specific instead of just saying Europe, then we'd appreciate the same in return.

And please, tell me, how nitpicky is this, for crying out loud,

Jeremy · **Mon Jun 21, 2004 2:57 pm**

It is getting a bit nitpicky. I'm European and I don't know all the countries in the EU, or their currency, let alone those in the whole of Europe!

superwoman · **Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:06 pm**

You don't have to answer or read if you think it's so damn nitpicky! And yes I know that america includes south america.
To me this is important, and I just want to disscus it... I think I'll just don't do the "world" news forum for now, it was intresting for a while but you can have to much of the good stuff

Theresa · **Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:11 pm**

It was my question, naturally I need to read it,

And if you don't have a proper reply, just say so. Or if it's a double standard, again, just say so.

Joey · Rear Admiral Joined: 13 Jul 2001 Posts: 4708

whoa! somepeople are testy!
can we drop this pls??

IntrepidIsMe · **Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:49 pm**

Nobody had posted in this for 8 days....

Theresa · **Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:52 pm**

I sometimes wonder how people function in society....

Pay attention to the nature of posts in WN. If you can't handle it, simply stay out,

And like Aaron said, you are 8 days too late.

Theresa · **Sat Jul 03, 2004 11:18 pm**

Link, the Hero of Time · **Sun Jul 04, 2004 11:07 am**

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

Fortunatly we do not live in Ceasar's era.

Link, the Hero of Time · **Sun Jul 04, 2004 11:15 am**

no, we don't live in Caesar's Era.

But This still happens all the time.

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

The statement is flawed, patriotism, at least true patriotism does not blind a person.

"True patriotism hates injustice in it's own land more than any other."

Theresa · **Sun Jul 04, 2004 6:16 pm**

Exactly, Kevin. A dictator is never a good thing.