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| No; Absolutely NOT!!! |
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Republican_Man
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 Thu Jun 17, 2004 11:14 pm MY John Kerry Essay |
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Leo Wyatt
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| Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:25 am |
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No way!!
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WeAz
Commodore
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| Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:49 am |
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im a democrat but since i hate  Kerry i have to vote for Bush.(if i could vote at all)
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Republican_Man
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| Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:13 pm |
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Oh, and a recent Kerry flip-flop: (Just this week)
In the beginning of the War in Iraq, Kerry gave TREMENDOUS support for the war and said that "Iraq's WMDs are a grave threat" (I have SEVERAL exact quotes) but now he's saying that, "President Bush MISLEAD us into war..." (I'll get some more exact quotes if necessary...)
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Link, the Hero of Time
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| Sat Jun 19, 2004 1:07 am |
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That essay is full of your own opinions, spun facts and major parts of the story left out.
I don't have time to break it down now, seeing as how I'm about to pass out on my keyboard, it's 2am here. I'll make sure I do it tomarrow afternoon or night
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Defiant
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| Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:16 am |
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Im with Link for sure. There are alot of bad things about Kerry, like hes a total *beep*, but I still think there is way more wrong with Bush. Well, you know my opinions.
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Leo Wyatt
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| Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:23 am |
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There is no wrong thing about bush with all due respect. Just because he wants to Protect your country America, You all want to bash him.
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Defiant
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| Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:37 am |
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Not at all my intention, and you know it. In my opinion, you are blinded by your love for Bush, so much you cant see his flaws. No worries, its the opposite for me and Kerry, except that I am blinded by hate for Bush.
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Leo Wyatt
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| Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:55 am |
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Not to cause an arguement cause I think you are a nice person, I am not blinded by my love for Bush. Iknow a good President. And Kerry is not going to be a good one in my eyes. Iwill not feel safe if Kerry gets elected. I will feel sorry for America if Kerry gets elected. We don't need no immoral president in office especially a democrat.
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Captain Dappet
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| kmma wrote: | | There is no wrong thing about bush with all due respect. Just because he wants to Protect your country America, You all want to bash him. |
Sorry, but thats impossible.
There is no way that there's nothing wrong with Bush at all. If that was the case, he would be a perfect human being, and we both know there has never been such a person, and there will never be one.
And furthermore, it's not fair to say that Bush will be elected "when the American people see the truth". There are different truths for different people. Plus, if you look at the polls, there seem to be an awful lot of people who have yet to "see the truth"...
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Leo Wyatt
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| Sat Jun 19, 2004 1:17 pm |
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No, Cappy! They are blinded by a liar like Kerry.
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Captain Dappet
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| Sat Jun 19, 2004 1:38 pm |
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And how do you know you're not the one who's blinded by a liar?
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Pah-Wraith
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| Sat Jun 19, 2004 2:26 pm |
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| kmma wrote: | | No, Cappy! They are blinded by a liar like Kerry. |
Kmma so far you have given no points yourself to show why you agree and support Bush so much, you have not given any points to show why Kerry is such a Rubbish Candidate yourself either. In fact all I have seen you say is stuff about Democrats and Liberals being in the wrong or in denial, or you sayign "I agree".
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Leo Wyatt
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| Sat Jun 19, 2004 3:08 pm |
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I have morals that what. I am title to my opinion too just like the rest of you. I stand by Bush cause He will protect America and he has Christian values unlike Kerry.
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Republican_Man
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| Sat Jun 19, 2004 4:47 pm |
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| Link, the Hero of Time wrote: | That essay is full of your own opinions, spun facts and major parts of the story left out.
I don't have time to break it down now, seeing as how I'm about to pass out on my keyboard, it's 2am here. I'll make sure I do it tomarrow afternoon or night |
No, no, no: It is not spun facts. You may think so, but I don't. And I don't see what the "story" being left out is. Please "teach me."
| Defiant wrote: | | Im with Link for sure. There are alot of bad things about Kerry, like hes a total *beep*, but I still think there is way more wrong with Bush. Well, you know my opinions. |
Yes, you are entitled to your opinions, but they often, like those of Al Franken, George Soros, and Michael Moore go WAY too far. But I accept your opinions, even though I usually (more than usually, but you get the picture) don't agree with you on issues, and sometimes I REALLY don't like what you or your liberal friends say, but, although misguided and often wrong  , I accept them. 
| kmma wrote: | | There is no wrong thing about bush with all due respect. Just because he wants to Protect your country America, You all want to bash him. |
Forgive me, but I can see some things that are wrong with him.
a) His Immigration Proposal
b) His spending (yes, we need to spend much on defense, but)
c) How he has trouble "selling" his ideas and the truth
I'm sure there's a few more, but there OBVIOUSLY is at least SOMETHING bad about Bush, although small, as there is with all people.
| Defiant wrote: | | Not at all my intention, and you know it. In my opinion, you are blinded by your love for Bush, so much you cant see his flaws. No worries, its the opposite for me and Kerry, except that I am blinded by hate for Bush. |
I obviously, to no surprise, disagree with you on that statement 
"Blinded by your love for Bush." No, no way. She just hasn't taken the time to look at some of the bad things about our 3rd best President. I recommend that you do .
| Captain Dappet wrote: | Sorry, but thats impossible.
There is no way that there's nothing wrong with Bush at all. If that was the case, he would be a perfect human being, and we both know there has never been such a person, and there will never be one.
And furthermore, it's not fair to say that Bush will be elected "when the American people see the truth". There are different truths for different people. Plus, if you look at the polls, there seem to be an awful lot of people who have yet to "see the truth"... |
The first part I agree with: He DOES have flaws--all people have flaws and have made mistakes (although he's made few, but still...)
Yes, it is fair to say that Bush will be elected "when the American people see the truth." Yes, there are different truths for different people in instances, but there is a TRUTH to Kerry. It is the truth that he lies often and is a flip-flopper and has few moral values. But the media hardly says anything bad about Kerry because they are so blinded by there HATRED for Bush (something I do NOT have for Kerry). And yes, if you do look at the majority of the polls, it DOES seem like they haven't seen the truth yet. And why's that? Yet again: Because of the Liberal MEDIA.
| Captain Dappet wrote: | | And how do you know you're not the one who's blinded by a liar? |
Give me ONE, just ONE example of a lie of Bush's. And DON'T tell me it's the Iraq War, cause he did NOT lie there. If you think that, then so did Kerry, both Clintons, Ted Kennedy, and MANY more PROMINIENT LIBERAL Democrats.
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Leo Wyatt
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| Sat Jun 19, 2004 5:31 pm |
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I disagree with you on one thing RM. But I am not gettin into it cause this is not worth getting upset over anymore but In the end the good man will win and that is Bush. We don't need to argue on here just because of this crap. I would bring up proof, but I don't have the time to fight. Life too short.
I see it this way, No matter who is president, there will be no one right cause people will continue to fight over who is right and who is wrong. When we get just all get along and just clothes our mouths cause what's gonna be is gonna be. We can't change it. But I will stick to my beliefs about Bush and stick to yours.
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Republican_Man
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| Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:09 pm |
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| kmma wrote: | I disagree with you on one thing RM. But I am not gettin into it cause this is not worth getting upset over anymore but In the end the good man will win and that is Bush. We don't need to argue on here just because of this crap. I would bring up proof, but I don't have the time to fight. Life too short.
I see it this way, No matter who is president, there will be no one right cause people will continue to fight over who is right and who is wrong. When we get just all get along and just clothes our mouths cause what's gonna be is gonna be. We can't change it. But I will stick to my beliefs about Bush and stick to yours. |
1st off: Kmma, what exactly do you disagree with me on? Oh, perhaps that I think that Bush has made a few mistakes? (He's only had 3 or 4) (Everyone makes mistakes, btw)
2nd: I actually LIKE to debate. It's usually lots of fun, in my opinion.
3rd: I am right, in my opinion, but you DO raise a good point.
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Leo Wyatt
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| Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:34 pm |
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Whatever dude! I have the right for an opinion and you are not the only one that has the right. First of all If I wanted to show something I would thank you. But I am not wasting my precious time to prove anything to anyone cause I dont have to prove myself to you or to anyone else.
But I do have the right to an opinion just like everybody else on the board you and noone else has not shown proof just an opinions and what the media shows. HAHA ! have not learn not go news on tv.
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Republican_Man
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| Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:48 pm |
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I don't get what's going on here.
I don't want to be enemies with you at all...I did not intend to get into an arguement with you like this.
When you said | Quote: | | I see it this way, No matter who is president, there will be no one right cause people will continue to fight over who is right and who is wrong. When we get just all get along and just clothes our mouths cause what's gonna be is gonna be. We can't change it. But I will stick to my beliefs about Bush and stick to yours. |
and I answered | Quote: | | 3rd: I am right, in my opinion, but you DO raise a good point. |
I meant that I think that I'm right, EVERYBODY often thinks that they're right. However, you DID raise a good point. NO ONE will necessarily be right or wrong (I think I'm right and the Kerry supporters are wrong, but that's my opinion.)
You forget, it seems, that we agree on almost EVERYTHING. You can stick to your beliefs. I have NO quarrel with that.
| kmma wrote: | Whatever dude! I have the right for an opinion and you are not the only one that has the right. First of all If I wanted to show something I would thank you. But I am not wasting my precious time to prove anything to anyone cause I dont have to prove myself to you or to anyone else.
But I do have the right to an opinion just like everybody else on the board you and noone else has not shown proof just an opinions and what the media shows. HAHA ! have not learn not go news on tv. |
Yes, you have the right for an opinion. I NEVER said against that! I just said that I believe that I'm right in my belief that Bush has made a few mistakes (which IS AN OPINION)--no one's perfect, EVERYONE makes mistakes. You don't need to prove anything--I never said that.
HAVE YOU READ MY ESSAY? IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT KERRY (which I'm surprised about) then that's FINE.
AND I DO NOT TRUST THE MEDIA!!! and I DO give proof, and btw, this is, I think, the FIRST disagreement we've had and it's not a big one at that, so no need to get so worked up.
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Leo Wyatt
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| Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:25 pm |
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Ok, I see your point. I must learn to read lol especially when I am not tired. Sorry. I am going to view the board and go to bed and rest up.
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Republican_Man
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| Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:27 pm |
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| kmma wrote: | | Ok, I see your point. I must learn to read lol especially when I am not tired. Sorry. I am going to view the board and go to bed and rest up. |
'Tis okay. Have no worrys.
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grayrock667
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| Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:32 am |
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GO BUSH!
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Theresa
Lux Mihi Deus
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| Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:42 am |
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 Ok, that was funny, 
IMO, people who are blinded by either side are stupid. Bush hasn't backed down from anything he's said thus far. He makes a committment, he sticks to it. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for Kerry.
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startrekgirltng
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| Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:05 pm |
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MORE TREES LESS BUSH!!! 
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Puck
The Texan
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| Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:11 pm |
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As long as he remains President, that's cool with me.
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