| What do you think would be a fitting tribute? |
| A monument in DC. |
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12% |
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| A place on Mt. Rushmore |
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50% |
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| Putting his face on the 10 dollar bill. |
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12% |
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| Putting his face on the dime or nickel. |
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| I am not sure now, let's wait at least 50 years and then consider it. |
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25% |
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| Just passing his legacy on. |
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Puck
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 Wed Jun 09, 2004 10:24 pm Finding a Tribute for Reagan |
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Finding a Tribute for Reagan
Wednesday, June 09, 2004
By Peter Brownfeld
Washington � Alexander Hamilton (search) is so 18th Century, say Reagan enthusiasts who argue that the face of the nation's first treasury secretary should be stripped from the $10 bill and replaced with an image of the Gipper.
"We need to honor Reagan for what he lived for: The destruction of the Soviet empire and the rebuilding of what it means to be an American," said Chris Butler, spokesman for the Reagan Legacy Project (search), which has been pushing hard to replace Hamilton with the nation's 40th president.
A federal building in Washington, D.C., already bears Reagan's name, as does Reagan National Airport (search), which serves the nation's capital. Dozens of roads and schools across the country have given tribute to the former president by making him their namesake. Among the dedications are Ohio's Ronald Reagan Highway and New York's Ronald Reagan Boulevard.
The Reagan Legacy Project is pushing for the establishment of one significant monument in each state to be named after Reagan, as well as some dedication in every county in the United States and in every formerly communist country.
"We currently have 55 known Reagan dedications in the U.S. [Former President John F. Kennedy (search)] has 600 to 800 named after him. Martin Luther King has 800 to 1,000 named after him. For Reagan, we're not even close to approaching what is considered normal for heroes of the 20th Century," Butler told Foxnews.com.
In what would be a major change, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., submitted an amendment on Monday to the defense authorization bill that would rename the Pentagon (search) the "Ronald Reagan National Defense Building."
On Wednesday, the House of Representatives adopted a resolution honoring Reagan, 375-0. The Senate passed a similar measure 98 to 0. Both chambers adjourned until Monday to honor the late president, who was to lie in state in the Capitol Rotunda until his funeral Friday at National Cathedral (search).
Although he co-sponsored the Senate resolution, Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle seemed hesitant about suggesting the best way to honor the former president.
"I think we have to allow historians and others with some thought to consider how we might best remember President Reagan officially," Daschle, D-S.D., said Tuesday.
Others say Reagan has been paid a number of tributes, and changing the currency may be a step too far.
"You'd think [Hamilton] would be the absolute hero of the Republican Party," said Willard Sterne Randall, author of "Alexander Hamilton: A Life." "He was a great genius at the beginning of the country. It was the genius of Hamilton that made sure the revolution and the country survived."
Randall outlined a long list of Hamilton's accomplishments, including founding America's entire financial system, Wall Street (search), the Coast Guard, the Navy (search) and the Treasury Department. Another Hamilton achievement was founding the Federalist Party, which was the precursor to the GOP.
Hamilton "should really be beloved by both sides, except they don�t know their history," Randall said.
Hamilton's image has been on the $10 bill since 1928. Before Hamilton, the note at different times bore portraits of Abraham Lincoln (search), Merriwether Lewis and William Clark together and America's seventh president, Andrew Jackson (search).
Randall said a more logical switch would be to take Jackson, a Democrat, off the $20 bill because he was a slave owner and inflicted great suffering on Native Americans.
Butler said the biggest opponents of the Reagan naming project are the same people who opposed the Great Communicator while he was in office: "People who thought it was foolish and impossible to stop the Soviet Union," he said.
Proponents of changing the $10 bill say a consensus is now emerging to put Reagan's image on the note. Grover Norquist, chairman of the Reagan Legacy Project, has been talking to lawmakers for years. He said it would be easier to replace Hamilton on the bill because he was never president.
The project is planning on launching its major congressional effort next week, and Butler said he is encouraged by the level of backing the initiative has gotten so far. "We have seen a major groundswell of support."
Among the efforts on Capitol Hill to honor Reagan have been a number of currency initiatives.
Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., had been pushing for the $10 bill switch. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., wants to bump Jackson from the $20 bill.
On Tuesday, Rep. Jeff Miller, R-Fla., introduced legislation to have Reagan replace JFK on the 50-cent piece.
Earlier this year, Rep. Mark Souder, R-Ind., sought to have dimes bear the likeness of Reagan. But the dime effort ran into problems when Democrats, who strongly resisted removing Franklin Delano Roosevelt (search) from the 10-cent piece, and Nancy Reagan, the former first lady, opposed the initiative.
Daschle suggested that the best way to honor Reagan has nothing to do with putting his face on U.S. currency.
"I think the best way to remember President Reagan is to fully fund Alzheimer's (search) research and to find a cure to that dreaded disease some time soon." Reagan died Saturday after a decade-long struggle with Alzheimer's disease.
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LightningBoy
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| Wed Jun 09, 2004 10:51 pm Re: Finding a Tribute for Reagan |
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| Quote: | | On Tuesday, Rep. Jeff Miller, R-Fla., introduced legislation to have Reagan replace JFK on the 50-cent piece. |
heh...
Anyhow, I'd like to see Reagan on money. On the ten would be cool.
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Jun 09, 2004 10:57 pm |
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A monument in DC. YES
A place on Mt. Rushmore MORE THAN ALL--YES, YES, YES!!
Putting his face on the 10 dollar bill. NO, KEEP MONEY THE WAY IT IS
Putting his face on the dime or nickel. NO, KEEP MONEY THE WAY IT IS
I am not sure now, let's wait at least 50 years and then consider it. NO
Just passing his legacy on. PASS IT ON
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Puck
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| Wed Jun 09, 2004 10:59 pm |
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Mt. Rushmore is a bit extreme dont yall think?
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Theresa
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| Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:01 pm |
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No. Look at all of the things he's done. Besides, Rushmore is built to be able to be added on to.
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Puck
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| Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:02 pm |
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But they are all looking inward! He would be off to the side looking of somewhere else like some weirdo.
Besides....he just died....give him some time. :P
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:14 pm |
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No, it's not extreme. He should get it.
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Theresa
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| Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:35 pm |
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| JanewayIsHott wrote: | But they are all looking inward! He would be off to the side looking of somewhere else like some weirdo.
Besides....he just died....give him some time.  |
In fifty years, darling, the people of the Reagan era will be dead.
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IntrepidIsMe
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| Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:11 pm |
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I said wait 50 years, what's the rush? The people of the Lincoln era were dead when they built his monument in D.C, same with putting Franklin on the 100 dollar bill.
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"Nelly, I am Heathcliff! He's always, always in my mind: not as a pleasure, any more than I am always a pleasure to myself, but as my own being."
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| Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:59 pm Re: Finding a Tribute for Reagan |
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| Quote: | | On Tuesday, Rep. Jeff Miller, R-Fla., introduced legislation to have Reagan replace JFK on the 50-cent piece. |
oh god was I drunk again do I run Florida?
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| Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:30 pm |
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| Republican_Man wrote: | A monument in DC. YES
A place on Mt. Rushmore MORE THAN ALL--YES, YES, YES!!
Putting his face on the 10 dollar bill. NO, KEEP MONEY THE WAY IT IS
Putting his face on the dime or nickel. NO, KEEP MONEY THE WAY IT IS
I am not sure now, let's wait at least 50 years and then consider it. NO
Just passing his legacy on. PASS IT ON |
I couldn't put it better myself
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Theresa
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| Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:42 pm |
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| IntrepidIsMe wrote: | | I said wait 50 years, what's the rush? The people of the Lincoln era were dead when they built his monument in D.C, same with putting Franklin on the 100 dollar bill. |
This is the era of instant gratification. People are going to want to see results now.
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Republican_Man
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| Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:48 pm |
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| Theresa wrote: | | IntrepidIsMe wrote: | | I said wait 50 years, what's the rush? The people of the Lincoln era were dead when they built his monument in D.C, same with putting Franklin on the 100 dollar bill. |
This is the era of instant gratification. People are going to want to see results now. |
I agree. That is a good point to make. Let us do it NOW, NOT later.
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Puck
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| Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:10 pm |
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Now.....I just don't think Mt. Rushmore fits him.
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IntrepidIsMe
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| Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:45 pm |
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| Republican_Man wrote: | | Theresa wrote: | | IntrepidIsMe wrote: | | I said wait 50 years, what's the rush? The people of the Lincoln era were dead when they built his monument in D.C, same with putting Franklin on the 100 dollar bill. |
This is the era of instant gratification. People are going to want to see results now. |
I agree. That is a good point to make. Let us do it NOW, NOT later. |
Era of instant gratification, I suppose I wouldn't know any different, haven't been alive through more than one era. But anywho, I'm inclined to disagree. I think we should wait a few years, until people decide what they'd like, not a rushed decision. I don't necessarily think 50 years, but at least some.
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Puck
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| Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:52 pm |
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Yes, and let's remember that he was not....I regret to say, perfect.
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| Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:17 pm |
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I think they should create a 99 cent coin and put his face on it.
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:50 pm |
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How about a half-cent piece? About all he was worth. Sure he toppled the U.S.S.R., but I don't think that plunging the country trillions of dollars into debt by buying nuclear weapons was the proper way to go about it. He solved one problem and created about five more.
...And so the Zeke makes his controversial return to the World News forum.
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Puck
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| Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:56 pm |
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I would not call it controversial....more like disrespectful, rude, and seemingly ignorant. First off, the man just died, have enough respect to withhold rude remarks until everything has settled a little. And I would say that helping cause the fall of the USSR is worth a few extra problems. He was a great American President, not the best, but he is very high on the list. I know he was not perfect, I said it myself. But have enough respect to start talking about his bad points after everything has had time to settle, he hasn't even had his funeral yet. And also, when you make them, I would hope it was in a more honorable way.
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Theresa
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| Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:00 am |
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He was one of the best presidents ever. Dems, Republicans, Indies all agreed on that. He did MANY things for our nation. Totally partisan people are just as ignorant as the uninformed, and should stay home on election day.
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:01 am |
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I'm very ignorant, as are we all. But I'm not making my statement without facts to back it up. As to whether he was a great president, that's up to the individual. I happen to think he was, but that still doesn't mean I liked the way he did things. I'm not going to quibble about issues of respect. If I say it now or later, it's pretty much the same.
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Theresa
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| Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:07 am |
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Not really. There is such a thing as common courtesy. If Clinton died tomorrow, I think I'd be able to control my "anti-Clinton" remarks for awhile, and be respectful that this was a man's life.
Even when at the funeral of someone you hate, you have the courtesy not to bring it up. Thinking of others is such a nice thing.
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:10 am |
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I agree. But I'm not at the man's funeral. Besides, life is such a trivial thing all in all. Just one more minute flicker in the vast universe. But, I digress. I'm not here to offend; just to express my personal views. I can see already that they clash with yours just as much as I remember.
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Theresa
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| Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:15 am |
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Tsss, no one is asking for conformity in WN. And this topic is for those who wish to honor Reagan. None of us will obviously be going to the funeral, so this is the closest thing to a gathering many will experience.
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:20 am |
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Mmm... I fancy that I misinterpreted the purpose of the World News forum. I wasn't aware that it served as a funeral parlor or a place of mourning. That would be more of a Chit Chat thing, would it not? The way I understand it, this forum is for the posting of news and commentary and debate on news topics. Then again, you're the Administrator... If you say back off, I back off.
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