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WeAz
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 Wed Jun 02, 2004 6:40 pm Should we pull out of Iraq? |
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I think that we start it, we finish it principle.
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Jun 02, 2004 6:44 pm Re: Should we pull out of Iraq? |
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| Janeway_74656 wrote: | | I think that we start it, we finish it principle. |
I agree. We can't go leaving Iraq for it to suffer. We have to help it stand up straight. Look at a historical example:
After World War I, Germany was in shambles. Then what happened?--Hitler rose out of the ashes.
The same thing will happen if we leave now, and other ruthless, evil regime may take place.
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Puck
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| Wed Jun 02, 2004 6:48 pm |
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Anyone who says we should pull out, here is what I say to you:
NUTS!
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Voyager`
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| Wed Jun 02, 2004 9:30 pm |
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pulling out would be the biggest mistake we could make! and make us look bad, in my opinion
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Jeff Miller
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| Thu Jun 03, 2004 12:28 am |
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Hell we are losing people everyday lets just make ourselfs at home.  yes get them the hell out of there. Answer me this we are fighting all this evil to save people right? WHO THE HELL WOULD FIGHT TO SAVE US IF WE NEEDED IT? if you say well our allies than I say your in need of a reality check no one would help us plain and simple. We don't need them they don't need us. The whole idea of trying to help people who would rather just shoot us just shocks me.
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Theresa
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| Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:52 am |
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Check the state of the world, Jeff. We do need our allies.
And RM made a VERY valid point about WWI.
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Jeff Miller
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| Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:59 am |
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| Theresa wrote: | Check the state of the world, Jeff. We do need our allies.
And RM made a VERY valid point about WWI. |
I know we do what I'm trying to say is if we need help who do you think would help us? imo its like we are willing to help everyone and anyone but when the time arises will anyone help us?
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Theresa
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| Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:02 am |
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It is a fact we don't get a lot of aid, no one is denying that. But it is also a fact that we don't really need it. If we came under attack, our allies are obligated to help. They know what will happen if they do not.
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Seven of Nine
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| Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:21 am |
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I think it should be up to the Iraqi's now. Gradual withdrawal should work, when Iraq is ready.
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Leo Wyatt
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| Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:34 am |
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I don't think they should pull out of Iraq, it will be letting the terrorist win. Can't give the enemy the satisfaction, in my opinion of course.
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Captain Dappet
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| Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:39 am |
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Are you saying that you should stay forever?  Then that is practically to conquer Iraq.
I think the U.S should pull out soon. As Seven of Nine said, it's up to the Iraqi People now.
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Jeremy
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| Thu Jun 03, 2004 12:09 pm |
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I think they are meaning stay for a few years. That's what all the experts are saying. There will need to be Coalition troops there for the next five years at least to help keep control. If they pull out too early then it will cause the situation to be as bad, or worse, than before.
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Leo Wyatt
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| Thu Jun 03, 2004 12:25 pm |
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Captain Dappet wrote: | Quote: |
Are you saying that you should stay forever? THen that is practically to conquer Iraq.
I think the U.S. should pull out soon. As Seven of Nine said, it's up to the Iraqi People now. |
Dappet, you did not read my post right. I said we should stay and not give the enemy the satisfaction. I said not to stay forever. You are puttin words in my mouth that are not there.
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Captain Dappet
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| Thu Jun 03, 2004 2:24 pm |
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No, Deb, I didn't. I asked a question 
Anyway, I think staying for a couple of years is too much. They should move out, as soon as they can, IMHO.
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Pah-Wraith
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| Thu Jun 03, 2004 2:30 pm |
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I think now that the Situation is quite unstable we need troops to remain in the country to help carry out the orders of the new government and help restore security until Iraq manages to secure itself or build up a reasonable sized and capable Police Force.
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LightningBoy
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| Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:14 pm |
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Pulling out would be a disaster.
Iraqis are still our allies. More than 80% support us there. We can't dump them.
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Anubis2k4
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| Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:58 pm |
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| Voyager` wrote: | | pulling out would be the biggest mistake we could make! and make us look bad, in my opinion |
The biggest mistake was starting the war!!!!! Bush and Blair in their insane quest against terror attack Iraq because 'they've got weapons of mass destruction' and ow it turns out they never had them. We had no right to go to war with Iraq and starting the war has to be the biggest blunders in Bush and Blair's careers, i for one will be glad when all the sane people vote Blair out of Government in next years elections, he dragged the country into a war that nobody wanted!
Anyway, onto the question. I think we should pull out of Iraq, look at whats happened recently. the man who was their new version of a Prime Minister was killed n a bomb attack because he was visting Co-ellition HQ. Doesn't that tell anybody that they don't want us in their country??? I say pull out now before we do more damage to a country we had no right attacking in the first place.
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Leo Wyatt
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| Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:49 pm |
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The war was just cause to stop an evil man. The soldiers do need to stay there.
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Paul Marshall
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| Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:53 pm |
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I say yes, of course,  .
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IntrepidIsMe
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| Fri Jun 04, 2004 3:44 pm |
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| Anubis2k4 wrote: | | Voyager` wrote: | | pulling out would be the biggest mistake we could make! and make us look bad, in my opinion |
The biggest mistake was starting the war!!!!! Bush and Blair in their insane quest against terror attack Iraq because 'they've got weapons of mass destruction' and ow it turns out they never had them. We had no right to go to war with Iraq and starting the war has to be the biggest blunders in Bush and Blair's careers, i for one will be glad when all the sane people vote Blair out of Government in next years elections, he dragged the country into a war that nobody wanted! |
Well, I'm not sure about British sentiments, but in the US, everyone supported the war on terror, when it began. And they DID find weapons in Iraq that WERE banned by the UN.
| Anubis2k4 wrote: | | Anyway, onto the question. I think we should pull out of Iraq, look at whats happened recently. the man who was their new version of a Prime Minister was killed n a bomb attack because he was visting Co-ellition HQ. Doesn't that tell anybody that they don't want us in their country??? I say pull out now before we do more damage to a country we had no right attacking in the first place. |
When you say "they" you DON'T refer to the majority of Iraqis, you are referring to the terrorists. If we were to simply leave, it would be like handing over the country to them, and that's exactly what they want. Ever heard of not negotiating with terrorists? Well, this is pretty much the same thing.
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Puck
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| Fri Jun 04, 2004 3:57 pm |
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| Anubis2k4 wrote: | | Voyager` wrote: | | pulling out would be the biggest mistake we could make! and make us look bad, in my opinion |
The biggest mistake was starting the war!!!!! Bush and Blair in their insane quest against terror attack Iraq because 'they've got weapons of mass destruction' and ow it turns out they never had them. We had no right to go to war with Iraq and starting the war has to be the biggest blunders in Bush and Blair's careers, i for one will be glad when all the sane people vote Blair out of Government in next years elections, he dragged the country into a war that nobody wanted!
Anyway, onto the question. I think we should pull out of Iraq, look at whats happened recently. the man who was their new version of a Prime Minister was killed n a bomb attack because he was visting Co-ellition HQ. Doesn't that tell anybody that they don't want us in their country??? I say pull out now before we do more damage to a country we had no right attacking in the first place. |
Why don't you try watching the news a little more. It is obvious from your post that you do not, or if you do, it is slanted, and has a spin on it. And under international law, we DID have the right to go to war with him, he violated UN policy 17 times I beleive it was. Try watching the news, and also INVESTIGATING what they tell you.
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Leo Wyatt
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| Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:59 pm |
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Anubis, They did find weapons of mass destruction. Was you a soldier over there that can say they didn't have them? Well last time my husband watched the news, and yes my husband is a soldier, they did find them.
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Anubis2k4
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| Sat Jun 05, 2004 10:16 am |
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As far as i know they didn't find weapons, at least not a sufficient amount to justify going to war for. I guess it is obvious that i don't watch the news that much. Being a teen news isn't that high up on my list of priorities.
| JanewayIsHott wrote: | | Why don't you try watching the news a little more. It is obvious from your post that you do not, or if you do, it is slanted, and has a spin on it. And under international law, we DID have the right to go to war with him, he violated UN policy 17 times I beleive it was. Try watching the news, and also INVESTIGATING what they tell you. |
If we did have the right to go to war with him why weren't we backed by the UN? I'm not saying that he didn't violate UN policy, but obviously the UN didn't consider that enough for us to start a war.
| Quote: | | Well, I'm not sure about British sentiments, but in the US, everyone supported the war on terror, when it began. |
There were massive marches here to show that people didn't want the war. I'm not sure exactly how many but there were quite a few. But Blair being Blair takes the country to war against everyones wishes.
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Leo Wyatt
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| Sat Jun 05, 2004 10:46 am |
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Cause the UN don't give a rip about if Saddam was planning on bombing us.
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Captain Dappet
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| Sat Jun 05, 2004 10:53 am |
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And was he?
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