| Do you think 9/11 was justified? |
| YES!! Die American ******* |
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| Yeah, Sorta... |
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| NOOOOO!! Die OSAMA you ******* |
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Voyager`
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there is no way 9/11 could be justified no way at all, no terrorist attack in any country against anyone can be justified never!
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LightningBoy
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Joined: 09 Mar 2003
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Location: Minnesota, U.S.A.
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| Tue Jun 01, 2004 11:18 pm |
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I can't think of a good reason that this post thread be allowed here at all.
To say that the U.S. deserved that is ridiculous. The U.S. does good across the planet, and moreso than any other nation. So absolutely not, we were backstabbed.
The extreme Muslim world hates those who are well off, simply because it proves their extremism wrong.
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Starbuck
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Location: between chaos and melody
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| Wed Jun 02, 2004 11:32 am |
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Let me rephrase this, I do not justify terrorist acts, I do not think America deserved to be attacked, and I stand behind President Bush 100%. But I do believe that America did deserve a reality check. We have our head in the clouds. We live in a real world, and its time we came back to it. Yes, as Theresa said, "some arrogance is deserved" and I agree, SOME is okay, but I think we've gone a little too far.
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Theresa
Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001
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Location: United States of America
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| Wed Jun 02, 2004 11:40 am |
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| 4evajaneway wrote: | | America doesn't have the right to barge in on others business, and other countries don't like that America does that. Therefore, I say yeah, America sorta deserved it. |
I suggest you seriously reconsider your decision to serve in the US armed forces. Apparently you've forgotten what happened September 11.
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Starbuck
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| Wed Jun 02, 2004 11:46 am |
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Oh no, I haven't forgotten, how can I when I came so close to losing someone I loved, and I want the bastards to pay for what they did just as much as the next american does, and I don't aplaud them for what they did, but I can see why they did it.
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Theresa
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| Wed Jun 02, 2004 11:50 am |
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| 4evajaneway wrote: | | Therefore, I say yeah, America sorta deserved it. |
If you think terrorism is justifiable, at all, you have no cause defending your country from terrorists. You can have sympathy for a people, but not the cowardly actions they take against civilians. Terrorism is never justifiable. Not even "sorta". Like has been said, you can understand, but justify? Never.
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Theresa
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| Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:06 pm |
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From the argument you provided on MSN, the US should now bend over and take it up the a$$ for every wrong thing that our government has ever done. Whether or not that country even blames us for their circumstance... Yeah, real valid point.
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Puck
The Texan
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| Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:12 pm |
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Gondor Girl
Princess of Ithilien
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| Wed Jun 02, 2004 3:59 pm |
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| Theresa wrote: | Hmmm.... I've never seen America think it rules the Universe, or the world for that matter. I've seen her try to push democracy and basic human rights, but never act like she owns/rules the place.
As for teaching us a lesson? Ha. No. All it has done is make us more aware. We know that we have vulnerablities.
Strongest nation........ Militarily, we kind of are. I am of course counting those countries allied w/ the US. I'm sure if the whole world went after us, allied, we'd get our asses kicked, but before that happened, there'd be one heck of a fight.
And it's natural for a people to think that their country is the strongest and greatest. I'd be rather disappointed if others didn't, also. It's called patriotism. Of course you have to balance that w/ reality, but, well, you get my point. |
^^^^ Yeah! That's what I think. 
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WeAz
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| Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:34 pm |
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| Vortex wrote: | people who think that sep 11th was justified are sick in the head. Anyone killing innocente people is sick for that matter. There are some mixed feeling for me as well, but not about sept 11th. The person that created this sick scenery from hell must be at least sentenced to death, such a creature has no right to exist.
That I don't like bush has nothing to do with it. And what good did it bring? Our economy is down, people are loosing jobs we are at war............
Yeah right, something good came from it.................. |
thats true how could anyone Justify 9/11. My best freind nearly lost his father!
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You dont know the other side of the story, vortex...
you just know what the american Media tells you..
When you realise that DUE to america millions of innocents have died needlessly , you might be able to see the other side of the coin.
Ok, I changed the topic name a bit, so it doesnt sound bad ...
And, America does act as if its the boss around here, and pushes other countries around..
Even the United Nations is just a puppet in their hands
By the way Maquis754.. whatever that darn number is, dont let your personal feelings for america affect your MODeration ..
Cause you might find posts like "america is ******"
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that is wrong and sickening
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It was Bush, not Clinton, who ignored the warning signs for 9/11.
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:11 pm |
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If you think 911 was justified, than you are a complete MADMAN.
I cannot express what I would really be thinking on the Internet, but here's what I would say, bleeped out:
@%$%#$%*&&%$##%##%@!#@#$#@@$@%$
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Puck
The Texan
Joined: 05 Jan 2004
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| Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:17 pm |
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NUTS!
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WeAz
Commodore
Joined: 03 Apr 2004
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Location: Where you aren't
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| Wed Jun 02, 2004 9:00 pm |
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| Republican_Man wrote: | If you think 911 was justified, than you are a complete MADMAN.
I cannot express what I would really be thinking on the Internet, but here's what I would say, bleeped out:
@%$%#$%*&&%$##%##%@!#@#$#@@$@%$ |
i dont think that!!!!!!!!!  
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It was Bush, not Clinton, who ignored the warning signs for 9/11.
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Theresa
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Location: United States of America
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| Wed Jun 02, 2004 9:20 pm |
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I don't think his comment was directed at you, more of just an answer to the topic question,
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AndrewBullock
The Misguided One
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
Posts: 2112
Location: Kentucky. (North America)
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| Tue Jun 08, 2004 12:45 pm |
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I'm sure the American government has secrets that they are keeping from their people, but their not the only ones. America just wants to protect their people and by doing that they must make tough decisions. Their was no way to bypass 9/11 and it could have happend to anyone. America's just trying to get even for all of those people that have died in the world trade centers.
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Leo Wyatt
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Joined: 25 Feb 2004
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| Tue Jun 08, 2004 12:53 pm |
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Some people don't care about their own country, some will vote for a democrat that will not protect America. Instead of a President that will. Guess some people just want to see more people die by terrorist.
I am not changing my vote. I vote Bush cause I know I feel safe.
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Janeway7
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Joined: 20 Feb 2004
Posts: 248
Location: Manchester England
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| Wed Jun 09, 2004 8:04 pm |
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During the war thousend of peaple died, fighting to make sure a mad man did not take away our freedom. If we give in to terorisam we will be paving the why for other mad man to do this and they will have died for nothing. Terorisam is an act of war and it must be stoped, unfortunatly these mad man do not care who they kill. But by killing Cervilans they think we will give in to them, 9/11 was the worst thing they could have done. Now the world is united in the fight to stop terorisam, these paeple should not have died, no one should have to die becose some mad man says so.
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Republican_Man
STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004
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| Wed Jun 09, 2004 8:24 pm |
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| Janeway7 wrote: | | During the war thousend of peaple died, fighting to make sure a mad man did not take away our freedom. If we give in to terorisam we will be paving the why for other mad man to do this and they will have died for nothing. Terorisam is an act of war and it must be stoped, unfortunatly these mad man do not care who they kill. But by killing Cervilans they think we will give in to them, 9/11 was the worst thing they could have done. Now the world is united in the fight to stop terorisam, these paeple should not have died, no one should have to die becose some mad man says so. |
Exactly, and it is unfortunate.
Now Bush should declare actual war against terrorism.
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Mac Harm
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Joined: 14 Oct 2003
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| Thu Jun 17, 2004 4:27 am |
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I have two things to say:
1. What is the one thing America hasn't shied away from fighting for? Freedom, what do terrorists do? Take Freedom away thats what!
2. I would imagine it hard to declare war on terrorisim, i mean that in some respects the American military is a terrorist group, why does no one fight the Americans directly? They are too scared of going against the worlds largest Army (America) and her ally the worlds largest Navy (U.K.) and terrorists are people that instill fear into people.
These are my independant opinions though, I understand that people have different people have different opinions, but as a soldier that is fighting in the war against terror I believe that no wars, no fighting at all is the way to go.
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Anubis2k4
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Joined: 25 Apr 2004
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| Thu Jun 17, 2004 6:36 am |
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| Quote: | | America doesn't have the right to barge in on others business, and other countries don't like that America does that. Therefore, I say yeah, America sorta deserved it. |
I agree with 4evajaneway on this one. Well i kind of agree. I agree that America has no right to do what it does and barge in on other countries' business. I think that the Americans deserved something, but they didn't deserve 9/11. No country deserves that.
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IntrepidIsMe
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| Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:16 am |
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I don't see how people can say that Americans deserved anything. If you have a problem with something the American military did, then take it up with them. It's not as if the civilians are the ones making all the decisions.
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Leo Wyatt
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| Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:17 am |
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No, America does not deserve it. I am proud to be an America and to say America deserves it is flawed.
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CaptianCircuitGod
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| Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:39 am |
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9/11 will not ever be justified. You cant justify the killing of so many innocent people.
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CaptianCircuitGod
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| Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:41 am |
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once all of you serve in the military then you will know what war is about and maybe you will get it through your heads to NOT believe the media. Do you know what the Iraqis are doing to the POWs they capture?
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Leo Wyatt
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| Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:58 am |
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Some people on here don't care cause they have one track minds. They will believe what they want. They see what is really is happening. Like the ones who been over in Iraq like my husband.
Yeah they don't realize what the Iraqis are doing to our men at all. Of course that is my opinion.
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