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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
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Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:13 pm ACTUAL QUADRANTS |
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Is the Galaxy ACTUALLY divided into Quadrants? If so, what are the Quadrants? I like the ST ones, personally...
And also, if anyone has a map of the Star Trek Galaxy divided into Quadrants with each quadrant labeled, please post it here.
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syd2002 Admiral
Joined: 25 Mar 2002 Posts: 8919 Location: Somewere in the world, makeing a difference
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Sat Apr 24, 2004 7:24 pm |
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It probobley is, but not named as they are in star trek. There names are probobley like East, West, North, and South quadrent.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Sat Apr 24, 2004 8:42 pm |
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But there can't be...There is no North, South, East, or West...Or is there? I'm not sure, but I think there might have been studies that say that the Galaxy is round, so...
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Arellia The Quiet One
Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 4425 Location: Dallas, TX
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Sat Apr 24, 2004 8:47 pm |
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Upper-right-hand, Delta. Bottom-right, Beta. Top-left corner, Gamma. Bottom-left, Alpha.
I don't have a picture, but this is the best I could describe from my trek atlas...as for in real life, I'm not sure if there are quadrants or not...
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Puck The Texan
Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596
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PrankishSmart Rear Admiral
Joined: 29 Apr 2002 Posts: 4779 Location: Hobart, Australia.
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Sun Apr 25, 2004 12:37 am |
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Some things in trek are the same as real life. Like the placement of Earth in our galaxy is the same, and the diameter of the galaxy is about 100,000LY. But I have never heard of alpha, delta, gamma and beta put into real science.
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Oliver Thought Maker
Joined: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 6096 Location: Antwerp, Belgium
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Sun Apr 25, 2004 2:00 am |
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Our galaxy, called the Milky Way, is actually a circular disk contain about 100 billion stars with a diameter of about 100000 light years. In the center, there is a higher concentration of stars and therefor exhibits a bulge. This part of the Milky Way is much brighter than the rest. To orientate, scientists have definded a North Galactic Pole and a South Galactic Pole (the top of of the disk or the bottom). See image below of a plan view taken from the Galactic North Pole.
Furthermore, due to differential rotation of the disk, a galaxy exhibits different spirals arms; also called spurs. See image below of differential rotation.
After nearly 50 years of intensive study, astronomers still cannot clearly deduce the exact shape of our galaxy in terms of how many arms this pinwheel-shaped galaxy has.
We know that the Sun is on the edge of what is probably a 'spur' called the Orion Spur which seems to merge with the Perseus Spiral arm towards the constellation Cygnus. The Perseus Arm is the one just outward from the Sun's location in the Galaxy about 700 to 1000 parsecs from us. Beyond the Perseus Arm, there may be a more distant one, but the arms become less distinct in the outer galaxy zone.
A list of the Milky Way Spiral Arms follows, sorted from outside to inside near our solar neighborhood in the Galaxy:
"+II", Outer Arm
"+I", Perseus Arm
"0", Local Arm, Orion Arm -----------------------------> Earth
"-I", Sagittarius Arm, Sagittarius-Carina Arm
"-II", Scutum-Crux Arm
Norma Arm
The Milky Way is not divided into quadrats. This is completely fictional and only exists in the world of Star Trek.
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Morphy Forum Ogre
Joined: 15 Jun 2001 Posts: 3858
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Sun Apr 25, 2004 8:37 am |
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Quadrants, the way Star Trek has them represented, is so.....2D. For a show about space, they use a map that is a 2D flat representation of space.
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Sonic74205 Rear Admiral
Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 4081 Location: England
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Sat May 29, 2004 4:35 pm |
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True it's like when a ship is in a battle and there surrounded and they say THERES NO WAY OUT
but they never think of going up or down
tut tut tut
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Starbuck faster...
Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 8715 Location: between chaos and melody
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Sat May 29, 2004 9:03 pm |
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This is true, and its rather anoying, Space isn't two dimensional its three dimentional, and that should be taken into concideration.
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Voyager` Rear Admiral
Joined: 22 Aug 2001 Posts: 2579 Location: Iowa
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true it is three dimentional but it is also pry true that the ship couldnt just all of a sudden go straight up or down as well
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Oliver Thought Maker
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Sun May 30, 2004 2:03 am |
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Morphy wrote: | Quadrants, the way Star Trek has them represented, is so.....2D. For a show about space, they use a map that is a 2D flat representation of space. |
That's not completly true. They use a 2D map, true, but we do too. Our maps of mountains are flat as well, it's just easier (and mountains are certainly not flat).
Keep in mind, whenever the Enterprise goes on a course like bearing 330 mark 15, it's a mathematical expression describing a direction in 3D-space. The first number describes an azimuth in degrees, the second the elevation.
Chakotay1988 wrote: | True it's like when a ship is in a battle and there surrounded and they say THERES NO WAY OUT
but they never think of going up or down |
With "THERES NO WAY OUT" they don't mean they are surrounded; there's always a gap in 3D-space, even when it's between two enemy ships (this applies to a 2D-space as well). I think they mean that when trying to escape, the enemy has a better position in hindering te Enterprise or to catch it. The Enterprise does need to accelerate, it can't just jump from full stop to warp speed in zero seconds.
4evajaneway wrote: | This is true, and its rather anoying, Space isn't two dimensional its three dimentional, and that should be taken into concideration. |
It is taken into consideration, see above.
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