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Kyre
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CANNES, France - American filmmaker Michael Moore�s �Fahrenheit 9/11,� a scathing indictment of White House actions after the Sept. 11 attacks, won the top prize Saturday at the Cannes Film Festival.
�Fahrenheit 9/11� was the first documentary to win Cannes� prestigious Palme d�Or since Jacques Cousteau�s �The Silent World� in 1956.
�What have you done? I�m completely overwhelmed by this. Merci,� Moore said after getting a standing ovation from the Cannes crowd.
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Moore was momentarily flabbergasted when he took the stage to accept the award, a big difference from his fiery speech against President Bush after winning the best-documentary Academy Award for 2002�s �Bowling for Columbine.�
�You have to understand, the last time I was on an awards stage, in Hollywood, all hell broke loose,� Moore said.
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�Fahrenheit 9/11� won the top award from sharply divided Cannes moviegoers, who found a solid crop of good movies among the 19 entries in the festival�s main competition but no great ones that rose to front-runner status.
While �Fahrenheit 9/11� was well-received by Cannes audiences, many critics felt it was inferior to Moore�s Academy Award-winning documentary �Bowling for Columbine,� which earned him a special prize at Cannes in 2002.
Some critics speculated that if �Fahrenheit 9/11� won the top prize, it would be more for the film�s politics than its cinematic value.
With Moore�s customary blend of humor and horror, �Fahrenheit 9/11� accuses the Bush camp of stealing the 2000 election, overlooking terrorism warnings before Sept. 11 and fanning fears of more attacks to secure Americans� support for the Iraq war.
Moore appears on-screen far less in �Fahrenheit 9/11� than in �Bowling for Columbine� or his other documentaries. The film relies largely on interviews, footage of U.S. soldiers and war victims in Iraq, and archival footage of Bush.
Just back in Cannes after his daughter�s college graduation in the United States, Moore dedicated the award to �my daughter and to all the children in America and Iraq and throughout the world who suffered through our actions.�
�Fahrenheit 9/11� made waves in the weeks leading up to Cannes after the Walt Disney Co. refused to let subsidiary Miramax release the film in the United States because of its political content. Miramax bosses Harvey and Bob Weinstein are negotiating to buy back the film and find another distributor, with hopes of landing it in theaters by Fourth of July weekend.
Quentin Tarantino headed the nine-member jury that handed out prizes in Cannes� main competition. The other jurors included actresses Kathleen Turner, Tilda Swinton and Emmanuelle Beart.
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Looking forward to this documentary. And although you could write it off as French hatred towards the US, it wasn't them who actually voted.
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Paul Marshall
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| Sun May 23, 2004 9:08 pm |
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Is it even going to be available to people in the US??
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Republican_Man
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| Sun May 23, 2004 9:40 pm |
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No, it is not.
Disney, owner of Mirimax, won't allow it, and THANK GOD. It is all a bunch of lies and hatred towards the President about 911 in the style of something similar to "Fahrenheit 457," a book in which the government bans books.
It is wrong for him to make it.
Moore is an idiot.
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Paul Marshall
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| Sun May 23, 2004 9:44 pm |
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Yeah ... but the only way it will probably be available is by download ...
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Oliver
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| Mon May 24, 2004 2:09 am |
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Well, I think eventually you could buy the movie everywhere. Perhaps it won't be legal but you'll find it.
Again, I think it's not right to censor things like that. The people have a right to buy what ever they want, even if it's a bunch of lies, it doesn't matter.
There are people who don't believe there were consentration camps. Does that mean those documentaries are not allowed? Of course not!
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Seven of Nine
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| Mon May 24, 2004 7:37 am |
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I think I saw somewhere that Disney is reconsidering showing it. I'll see if I can find it.
EDIT: Got it wrong  They're currently going to see if another company will distribute it in the USA.
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Jeff Miller
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| Mon May 24, 2004 9:07 am |
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| Republican_Man wrote: | No, it is not.
Disney, owner of Mirimax, won't allow it, and THANK GOD. It is all a bunch of lies and hatred towards the President about 911 in the style of something similar to "Fahrenheit 457," a book in which the government bans books.
It is wrong for him to make it.
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all I got to say is
freedom of speech
Or is that a right just given to certin people?....
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Theresa
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| Mon May 24, 2004 2:42 pm |
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Let's not forget defamation of character, and slander, shall we?
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Pah-Wraith
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| Mon May 24, 2004 2:56 pm |
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I like Moore, he may be selective with his facts but at least you find out some truths you never knew before. It'll available to download I reckon if anyone wants to see it.
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Theresa
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| Mon May 24, 2004 2:58 pm |
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Oh yeah, freedom of speech has nothing to do with a companies choice not to distribute a film. That is their freedom of speech.
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Republican_Man
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| Mon May 24, 2004 5:07 pm |
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OK, it's NOT illigel in the US, Disney just won't distribute it.
2nd- Most of his stuff is LIES, LIES, LIES, and SLANDER, LIBEL, SLANDER, AND LIBEL!!
| Quote: | | Let's not forget defamation of character, and slander, shall we? |
Exactly. People are not supposed to do that, and yet HE DOES IT ALL THE TIME!!!
| Quote: | | Oh yeah, freedom of speech has nothing to do with a companies choice not to distribute a film. That is their freedom of speech. |
Exactly.
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| Mon May 24, 2004 6:36 pm |
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| Theresa wrote: | | Oh yeah, freedom of speech has nothing to do with a companies choice not to distribute a film. That is their freedom of speech. |
I think that Disney's being a little too one-sided on this one, it's usually up to the media to be more open-minded. They might lose some customer loyalty because of this.
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Theresa
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| Mon May 24, 2004 7:07 pm |
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Oh please. Disney also doesn't put out *beep*. They aren't known for putting out scarcely any political movies, and you think they should start w/ an anti-Bush one simply because it suits your agenda? Hardly.
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| Mon May 24, 2004 9:08 pm |
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| Theresa wrote: | | Oh please. Disney also doesn't put out *beep*. They aren't known for putting out scarcely any political movies, and you think they should start w/ an anti-Bush one simply because it suits your agenda? Hardly. |
Ooooh...Nice choice of words. I agree. Why should they start now, and with an anti-Sitting President, no less?!
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| Tue May 25, 2004 12:27 pm |
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Pfft Britain has had it's distribution deal sorted so I am happy, he might be selective with his use of facts but "Bowling for Columbine" never had any information that wasn't seen as Un-true according to the head of the Modern Studies department at my school.
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Theresa
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| Tue May 25, 2004 12:54 pm |
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And that may be good enough for you, since it's your small part of the world, but your "head of Modern Studies" opinion really means nothing to anyone else.
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| Tue May 25, 2004 1:00 pm |
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It wasn't an opinion he got it from either "Time" or the "Economist" Magazine 
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Theresa
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| Tue May 25, 2004 1:19 pm |
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You weren't clear on that. The way you posted it, it was his opinion. "Economist" I don't read, "Time", I do. All everyones interpretation. Like I can say, "It is Tuesday". If I go any further than that, about today, it's merely my perception. It's rainy and gray, but for a farmer who's had no rain, it's beautiful. I'm not quite saying exactly what I mean, but I'm hoping you get the idea, 
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| Tue May 25, 2004 2:57 pm |
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Oh yeah, I see what you mean. Sorry I should've elaborated
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Republican_Man
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| Tue May 25, 2004 4:55 pm |
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| Pah-Wraith wrote: | | Pfft Britain has had it's distribution deal sorted so I am happy, he might be selective with his use of facts but "Bowling for Columbine" never had any information that wasn't seen as Un-true according to the head of the Modern Studies department at my school. |
But was that a political film? Or was politics brought into it like it was here?
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| Wed May 26, 2004 12:15 pm |
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It was political in the sense that it ridiculed some of the Gun ownership laws and the way that gun-crimes were dealt with in several states. It barely ever spoke of Bush, aside from a brief history of the Wars that America has caused Abroad (which was mainly before Bush's time). Unlike this current film which is pretty much about the current Government and it's War on Terrorism, I believe.
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