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PostTue May 04, 2004 10:30 pm    And they haven't thought of this why?

Why aren't there any torpedo replicators? Seems like ships are always running out of them


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PostTue May 04, 2004 10:34 pm    

My assumption is that there probably are, they just use up a lot of energy..... Otherwise Voyager would have run out after season 2 probably

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PostThu May 06, 2004 7:04 am    

Tss, Dan, you dork. That is a good question. Perhaps they didn't have them for the simple reason that it would make sense, (Like seatbelts, )
(And we all know about Voyagers magic torpedoes, )



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PostThu May 06, 2004 7:29 am    

Magic's right...they never seemed to run out

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PostThu May 20, 2004 3:51 am    

I have heard or had read from somewhere that voyager only have a limited amount of 38 torpedoes altogether. (im not sure maybe 32)


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PostThu May 20, 2004 6:07 am    

yes voyager had 38 type VI photon torpedoes
i dont think they could replicat them cuz all the curcutry and everything
i think they have to replicate everything indivitdually and them manually assemble it



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PostThu May 20, 2004 6:26 am    

Voyagers torpedo compliment was 32, as was stated in scorpion. That limit was somehow overcome however. Maybe they found a way to design a lowergrade photon torpedo that can be fabricated without needing resupply from starfleet

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PostThu May 20, 2004 7:05 am    

no u watch 'the cloud' (episode 6) they say voyager has a complement of 38 photon torpdoes ((plus 2 tri-cobalt devices)) so all in all and intrepid's cfull complement of photon torpedoes is 40


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PostThu May 20, 2004 6:17 pm    

Just to play Devil's advocate: Maybe there is a limit on the size and/or complexity of what replicators can make. Maybe things like torpedos can slowly be built by personnel using replicated parts.


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PostTue May 25, 2004 1:13 am    

The Intrepid class has 38 torpedos, but they can replicate, just that it takes a LOT of time and energy... they resupply their energy everytime they get to a space-station and so on... That's probably why they never run out of them...


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PostTue May 25, 2004 1:32 am    

Never thought of that, but you're right i think, each time their torpedoes are about to run out, they would just go to a space-station.


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PostTue May 25, 2004 5:51 am    

well it would actually be 40 torpedoes it could carry dont forget there was the two tir-colbalt devices which aren't supposed to be apart of "voyagers arsenal"

yeah have you ever realised that when ever picard hadto use a torpedo he wouldn't just use one or two but he would use like 12 and then at the end of the episode he would go to a startbase (well almost every episode ended in enterprise going to a starbase)



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PostTue May 25, 2004 11:25 pm    

Yes, but that's beyond torpedoes... doesn't count... I'm talking 'bout the normal ones...

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PostWed May 26, 2004 4:31 am    

Chakotay1988 wrote:
well it would actually be 40 torpedoes it could carry dont forget there was the two tir-colbalt devices which aren't supposed to be apart of "voyagers arsenal"

yeah have you ever realised that when ever picard hadto use a torpedo he wouldn't just use one or two but he would use like 12 and then at the end of the episode he would go to a startbase (well almost every episode ended in enterprise going to a starbase)
I didn't know tir-colbalt devices was counted as a torpedo.


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PostWed May 26, 2004 2:43 pm    

yeah


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PostThu Jun 10, 2004 12:38 am    

Torpedo's are matter/anti matter explosives. You can replicate them, but I think the warhead material is too unstable to be replicated. Having said that, they managed to teleport the Omega molecule....

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PostFri Jul 16, 2004 1:53 pm    

I read this in one of the DS9 books and in the star trek encyclepedia.
its the main rule of replicators that also prevents them from replicating hand phasers and plasma and such.
The First Rule Of Replicators:
They Can Not Replicate Energy

And the torpedoes matter/antimatter is considered energy.
so, thats also why you can't replicate living things.
you would have a body, but no energy in the brain, nerves, heart, muscles, and so on.



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PostSun Jul 25, 2004 6:22 pm    

They can replicate phasers.

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PostSun Jul 25, 2004 8:20 pm    

And? A photon torpedo is a miniature STAR inside a casing. How do you replicate a star???

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PostThu Aug 05, 2004 3:46 pm    

maybe there was a law made saying you can't replicate large powerful weapons. It could be starfleet protocol

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PostSun Aug 22, 2004 3:07 pm    

Imagine if that replicator was stolen.

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PostSun Aug 22, 2004 3:08 pm    

Indeed, that would be bad,...VERY BAD. All it would take would be one starship defecting, and there goes the technology for making Torpedoes.


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PostMon Aug 23, 2004 6:18 am    

~Voyager Fanatic~ wrote:
Chakotay1988 wrote:
well it would actually be 40 torpedoes it could carry dont forget there was the two tir-colbalt devices which aren't supposed to be apart of "voyagers arsenal"

yeah have you ever realised that when ever picard hadto use a torpedo he wouldn't just use one or two but he would use like 12 and then at the end of the episode he would go to a startbase (well almost every episode ended in enterprise going to a starbase)
I didn't know tir-colbalt devices was counted as a torpedo.


they are techinically torps, they work in the same way, you fire it, it moves along, it detonates....

Defiant wrote:
And? A photon torpedo is a miniature STAR inside a casing. How do you replicate a star???


I've never heard of a matter/antimatter star... probably because it would oblitterate itself...



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PostThu Aug 26, 2004 11:01 am    

maybe they really did have 32 trops
or maybe they had 320 trops


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PostThu Aug 26, 2004 2:30 pm    

If they could replicate the torpedoes, they'd still need antimatter. Normal replicators can't replicate antimatter. It's all a stupidity of the writers I think(again!).

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