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jbering69
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PostTue Apr 13, 2004 4:42 pm    America's War on Drugs; Winner or Loser

Understandably with the Iraq War many topics of interest have fallen to the wayside. For this I am asking what everyone else thinks of America's war on drugs. Has it been successful, or a failure? Are greater regulations needed or should restrictions be eased? Is the perceived threat greater or less than it once was? Let's see where this goes.

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PostTue Apr 13, 2004 9:07 pm    

its no longer a war on drugs, its a war on personal freedom.

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PostTue Apr 13, 2004 9:40 pm    

how so? drugs are illegal.

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PostTue Apr 13, 2004 9:55 pm    

Studies have shown that there have been a decrease in the amount of people taking drugs. In schools there are alot more drug prevention courses/classes/seminars. It's clearly a step in the right direction, so the "war on drugs" has been going well. Greater restrictions will always be needed, until drugs have been totally removed. I would only support use of some normally illegal drugs for medical usage.

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PostTue Apr 13, 2004 10:44 pm    

IntrepidIsMe wrote:
Studies have shown that there have been a decrease in the amount of people taking drugs. In schools there are alot more drug prevention courses/classes/seminars. It's clearly a step in the right direction, so the "war on drugs" has been going well. Greater restrictions will always be needed, until drugs have been totally removed. I would only support use of some normally illegal drugs for medical usage.


A fact that seriously pisses off drug users. They feel they should be able to do "whatever makes them feel good". There are times it would have "felt good" to beat the sh*t out of someone, but there is a reason that's against the law, same as drugs. I also love the, "you are only hurting yourself" line. Such selfishness.
As for the Coast Guard, and the "official" war on drugs, I'd say it's better than nothing. They are making it harder to get drugs into the country.



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PostWed Apr 14, 2004 7:36 am    

Another thing to go with that "whatever makes me feel good" ideology. Of course we all know that if you are in high school, then there will always be some kids that take drugs and get high and stuff. Well last year, there were to kids that were getting high and one of the kids commited suicide because he was so "off". Then his friend did not tell anyone and when someone finally questioned him about it he laughed about the whole thing because he was still high.

Basically, neither of those to people felt to good after that, and neither did a whole lot of other people. It was not a good thing.


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PostWed Apr 14, 2004 8:49 am    

Drugs are not cool, if people want to kill themselves over them they are crazy.

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PostWed Apr 14, 2004 5:01 pm    

You can't win a war that involves people in the upper ranks of society. If you want to tip the scales of balance, then nuke South America.

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PostThu Apr 15, 2004 1:50 pm    

Hmm in response to the posting about the decline in drugs, I cannot speak for other drugs but the research I have done shows that both Canada and the U.S. have a continually increasing consumption of marijuana that outstrips many of the other developed nations.

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PostThu Apr 15, 2004 2:42 pm    

basically because in some other countries, its legal.

Some people are under the presumption that if its legal, then it would decline. I doubt it.

Americans are too much "Let's do it for now". Legalization would only increase the consumption to an untold amount.


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PostThu Apr 15, 2004 2:48 pm    

I disagree the consumption of alcohol does not continually increase simply because it is legal. I think it likely that more people would try it and some may stick with it while others would decline. Countries that have legalised it found that there was an initial spike in usage but that it quickly stabilized as the people who liked it stuck with it while others discontinued use.

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PostThu Apr 15, 2004 9:05 pm    

lol, i'm not sure where they have been studying, but they need to come here to get there facts straight



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Studies have shown that there have been a decrease in the amount of people taking drugs. In schools there are alot more drug prevention courses/classes/seminars. It's clearly a step in the right direction, so the "war on drugs" has been going well. Greater restrictions will always be needed, until drugs have been totally removed. I would only support use of some normally illegal drugs for medical usage.


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PostThu Apr 15, 2004 9:07 pm    

What exactly are you refering to?

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PostThu Apr 15, 2004 9:27 pm    

I think drug use has gone up, not down

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PostThu Apr 15, 2004 9:31 pm    

I'm one of those ppl who will never have a problem with drugs becuase my Mom has to take around 50 pills a day 43 of them would otherwise be narcotics, so yeah i've seen over 2,000,000 dollars worth of drugs throughout my life. how many of you can say that?


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PostThu Apr 15, 2004 9:33 pm    

Wow, that must be tough, I'm sorry about that.

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PostThu Apr 15, 2004 9:34 pm    

i've seen my fair share, not two mill, but quite a bit lol

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PostThu Apr 15, 2004 11:02 pm    

Nearly everybody I know uses drugs in some form or another. Just about everybody in my town either smokes weed or drinks or both and what about all the people on anti-depressants (those are legal but mind-altering). This has nothing to do with statistics ... as long as there are bored teenagers and trippy rock songs there will be drug use.


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PostFri Apr 16, 2004 12:06 am    

I have seen close to that Monkey. Not the prescription drugs like you have described but I have been to one of those friend of a friend of a friend of a friend places. We were travelling through B.C. when we ended up at this place, and I'll be danged if I didn't leave real fast because I was scared as hell that the cops would show up at any time. (It was pretty impressive though I'll admit.)

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PostFri Apr 16, 2004 12:20 am    

Anti-crombie1 wrote:
I think drug use has gone up, not down

Hmm, well, you've thought wrong! This is national, not area specific,



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PostFri Apr 16, 2004 1:31 am    

Like I said before I cannot speak for other drugs, but marijuana use has gone up in both the U.S. and Canada.

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PostFri Apr 16, 2004 6:18 am    

Yes, marijuana may have, but drug use has gone down as a whole.


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PostFri Apr 16, 2004 10:09 am    

jbering69 wrote:
I disagree the consumption of alcohol does not continually increase simply because it is legal. I think it likely that more people would try it and some may stick with it while others would decline. Countries that have legalised it found that there was an initial spike in usage but that it quickly stabilized as the people who liked it stuck with it while others discontinued use.


The consumption of alcohol increases because of bumbling high school idiots who think its cool, get hooked on it, then spend half their lives wasting it next to the porcelain king.


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PostFri Apr 16, 2004 8:15 pm    

^Of course, it doesn't hurt that people (or at least, some of them) want to drown their sorrows in a haze of the stinky stuff.


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PostSat Apr 17, 2004 5:56 am    

Yeah but there is a better way to drown their sorrows and it is not drugs and no i am not talking about religion. Talk to a friend that you really and truley trust. Cause drugs will only fry your brains and kill ya.

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