The First Official Un-Official Debate

Republican_Man · **Tue Mar 30, 2004 4:37 pm The First Official Un-Official Debate**

The Topic of this Debate:
The Iraq War
Did you support it?
Do you support it now?

Let's begin the debate, and please, do NOT spur from the topic of a Debate on the Iraq War!

ILoveHarry · Admiral Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 7909 Location: Houston

I'm a pacafist. (Sorry I can't spell!!!)

Republican_Man · **Tue Mar 30, 2004 4:47 pm**

So, even though we had a great deal of evidence to WMDs and such and Saddam cut peoples' tongues off, threw people off buildings, and killed thousands of Kurds in the '80s for no reason more than they didn't like him.
You wouldn't even go to war for that!? What!? Tell me why, not just a 3-word answer.

Link, the Hero of Time · **Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:19 pm**

Well first things first, Dont bash others for their beliefs RM.

second, I agreed with the war in Iraq, It was time to get that murderer out of his seat of power before some other country was attacked and more innocent Civilains were killed.

But now that Saddam is gone, It's time to start pulling our men out and letting the people get back on their feet. You cant baby people or they will begin to permenently rely on you for support.

Republican_Man · **Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:52 pm**

First, I was not bashing her beliefs, but if it seemed like it, I wasn't.
Second, I agree with the "babying" statement, but we can't leave now--not with the terrorists and insurgants afoot. We went in there, and we would be giving into the terrorists to leave.

Now, look at a bit of history:
-After WWI, we didn't help Germany, and look at what happened afterword--Hitler.

Jeff Miller · **Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:10 am**

I missread what the poll question was I voted no when I meant yes. But what I have to say is that bush is just trying to do that his daddy couldn't do and he messed that up not only does the world hate us but we are losing atleast one solider a day. Get bush out and get out troops back. this is my opinion

Republican_Man · **Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:13 am**

READ WHAT I SAID ABOVE!

We CAN'T get the troops out, and how can you believe that he just went into Iraq for his oil buddies or to finish up what his dad left off.

See, this is the Liberal belief these days. It may be your opinion, but all you Liberals & anti-war protesters aut to think instead of making such OUTRAGEOUS claims...

Now, Liberals: Tell me HONESTLY: if Al Gore had taken us to war citing the same itell, would you have supported it?

Monkey · **Wed Mar 31, 2004 1:22 am**

all right first off RM stop biting ppls heads off just becuase you think your right. you are wrong and i shall prove you that.
First: for the love of monkey crap there were no "wmd"s (whiich sounds like a medical program for womens needs)
:D even the pres admited that.
Second: yes saddam has killed a bunch of ppl for no good reason BUT I have two words for you "Hiroshima" and Nagasaki.
now i'm sure that they teach you in your 6 grade classroom that america is the greatest place ever but it is not. what was it 2.600.000 Japanese killed becuase of our wonderful country? were nearly 3 million kurds killed by saddam? I think not.
Third: every single reason that the pres sent the soliders over ended up being a lie so why not bring them back? those "insurgants and terrorist" just happen to be iraqi citizens.
Fourth: Have you ever heard of a place called "Veitnam?" just ask the thousands of young ladies who were raped, or the villigers whose homes were set ablaze.
So I'm a liberal eh? if that means i hate murdering ppl, buring off there skin, then accepting check for 100.000.000.000$ from them (yep thats right Japan gave one hundered billion dollars to the iraqi rehab fund) then so be it.

Republican_Man · **Wed Mar 31, 2004 1:48 pm**

Monkey · **Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:18 am**

First: I saw the pres say admit that on NBC so don't tell me that he did'ent
Second: True it was in the past but so is this war and thats where it needs to stay behind us.
Three: You conderdict yourself by saying it was a right decision and then saying that "unfortunately" it kill 2,720,000 Japanese I rechecked my info and updated.
Fourth: I called you a 6 grader becuase thats how your acting condeming anyone who disagrees with you.
Fifth: You are wrong

Republican_Man · **Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:25 pm**

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

Republican_Man · **Sat Apr 03, 2004 12:15 am**

Monkey · **Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:11 am**

okay i guess i'm not a ""true american"" becuase i believe that Japan is a much better country.

The Japanese were not ""looney"" there emperor was. I think an assanation would have been in order not genicide on a civillen city.

And whats the diference from Japnese and Ameican?
Why should they die over us?

Republican_Man · **Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:14 pm**

Monkey · **Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:33 am**

Capt.Nero · **Wed Apr 07, 2004 8:56 pm**

Capt.Nero · **Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:00 pm**

I also beleive that already in the days of Regan....i could be wrong but I know it was a President before Pres.Bush Cenior already over 15 years ago they were planning to go in for Iraq.Bush only acted upon a plan that was devised years ago.

sabertooth1217 · **Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:12 pm**

There should not have been a war, BUt i have started to agree with some of Bush's ideas.... IM not sounding like a Demo right now anymore

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

Monkey · **Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:21 am**

I thought all men were created equal? so why is it any different where you come from?

Jeremy · **Thu Apr 08, 2004 4:44 am**

No one knows if there would have been more deads if America had mounted an invasion. The problem is that many of Japanese might have been killed in an invasion and also from the bombing/ firebombing so it's actually might have been more than 2.6 million deaths. But then again it could have been less. No one knows and it can't be proven so there's no point in arguing about this.

There is also the problem that you can't just bring up wars that happened in a different political situation a while ago. For example people are saying "Osama was the fault of Britian and America as they trained him" etc. There's a slight problem here. 1. It was not Bush that was president, so you can't heap the blame on him. 2. The Cold War was still on. The threat was from the U.S.S.R, not terrorists. Not much wonder they funded him. What would have happened if the U.S.S.R had attacked America and they haden't funded Bin Laden? Then everyone would have blamed them for that.

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

Theresa · **Thu Apr 08, 2004 10:05 am**

Exactly. And it depends upon what you read, too. Both sides claim that it saved thousands of lives, American and Japanese, and some on both sides claim it was a brutal massacre.

Capt.Nero · **Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:39 pm**

Ofcorse thats what bush wants u to think.False proof to make the americans are in there for a reason.where are u getting ur info anyways theresa?