| Who will you or would you vote for in the US 2004 elections? |
| John Kerry |
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27% |
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| President Bush |
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50% |
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| Ralph Nader |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| None of the 4 |
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22% |
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Republican_Man
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 Sat Mar 27, 2004 8:53 pm |
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First of all, ALL PEOPLE, except in former Iraq, Afganhistan, and other dictatorship countries are entitled to their opinions. I never said against that, and I apologize for my "Then you are stupid comment."
Now I have several replies to several parts of the discussion:
-Abortion IS killing human beings. So they're not born yet...that doesn't mean they have no rights whatsoever. It's wrong. The only exception is if the MOTHER IS IN DANGER, I believe. Not even if it's rape, incest, nor anything but that should a baby be killed.
-Bush was NOT the ONLY reason that we went to war. Look at the facts. I will make another reply discussing this in just a minute. And GET A LIFE! Yikes! Let me guess: Sarah, you're British, huh? "Bloody sense..."
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Republican_Man
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| Sat Mar 27, 2004 9:02 pm Re: Captain Reply |
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| B'Ellanna_Torrez wrote: | | Does anybody recall a certain dictator who raped his citizens, gassed innocent people's houses, killed his own people, harbored terrorists who kill people who have nothing to do with the problems in Iraq, and spent the country's money of palaces just for himself? HM? We recall this man? I believe his name was Saddam Houssein, and he happens to be under lock and key for the moment. |
-That is true. All of it is. Saddam cut off tongues, threw people off buildings, and did more and more terrible things FOR NO REASON AT ALL.
-Lets look at the history of or Iraq situation:
=1980s: Thousands of Kurds killed for opposing him. He USED WMDS
=August 2nd, 1990: Iraq invades innocent little Kuwait. US and its allies comes to Kuwait's aide
=In the time following this, many US resolutions (I believe about 40) were not responded to
=Weapons inspectors were thrown out of Iraq
=Saddam failed to account for his WMDs
=ALL INTELLIGENCE indicates that he had WMDs (he shipped them off to Syria)
=March of 2003: US and its coalition storm Iraq in Operation Iraqi Freedom
=In the days following the Shock & Awe attacks, President Bush announced that we needed to stop Saddam and free the Iraqi people
=December, 2003: Former Ruthless Dictator Saddam Hussein captured.
Wise up, Sarah.
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Theresa
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| Sat Mar 27, 2004 11:18 pm |
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Sarah Connor:
There are 52 cards in a deck. Tell me, how many of them have been caught? (you do know what I am referring to, right?) And the Taliban leaders, you were aware that a lot of them are now in custody, or are dead, right? Oh, from your post, apparently not...
Jeff Miller:
Republican_Man doesn't have to say anything negative about Bush. He is here, representing his side of the issue. It is up to you for rebuttal. He doesn't need to do your work for you...
Everyone:
Comments like, "well, that's my opinion and I don't care what you say", will not be tolerated. This is a MESSAGE BOARD. Where we have DISCUSSIONS. If you find yourself incapable of being involved in a DISCUSSION just because the other persons POV is contrary to your own, STAY OUT. Clear enough? Good.
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Theresa
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| Sat Mar 27, 2004 11:22 pm |
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| Seven of Nine wrote: | I have a little problem with Bush: he was too stupid to see that going to war with Iraq would increase terrorism, not reduce it. Oh, and he's got to learn to keep religion out of politics. Since I'll never be allowed to vote in America though, I have to put up with what everyone else votes for.
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Let's learn to make it clear when we are expressing our personal opinions, shall we?
And, Republican_Man:
No name calling, k? Your new, so it'll slide. Once.
There, done b*tching, you will now be returned to your regularly scheduled programming, 
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Republican_Man
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| Sun Mar 28, 2004 12:26 am |
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I will stop, but can you be more specific with the "name calling," so that I may know to which you are referring to?
And I will take this time to say this: I do care what your opinions are, and I know that it doesn't seem like it, and for that, I am sorry. I will disagree more...pleasantly, if you know what I mean.
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Republican_Man
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| Sun Mar 28, 2004 12:43 am |
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There are WAY too many smart people here...
Wait, no, there can't be too many!
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Republican_Man
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| Sun Mar 28, 2004 1:57 am |
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Who agrees with that?
=EDITED: Sorry, I forgot that I could edit... 
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Seven of Nine
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| Sun Mar 28, 2004 3:53 am |
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| Republican_Man wrote: |
-Tony Blair saw the Intelligence
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I think I read somewhere that he never bothered to read the intelligence, and decided just to follow Bush. I'll see if I can find it.
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Republican_Man
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| Sun Mar 28, 2004 12:50 pm |
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Seven, you may not live in the US (I don't know if you do), but whether you do or don't, the television media has been saying since the war started (specifically FOX NEWS) that the British Secret Service helped out Bush AND gave Tony Blaire the intelligence...Do you really think that a President, or Prime Minister, would go to war WITHOUT looking at the intelligence anyway?
Plus, the British media outlets hated the Iraq War even more than the majority of the American Media Outlets...The media can say things that they want...
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Theresa
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| Sun Mar 28, 2004 2:03 pm |
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If that comment is true, then the Brits have a hell of a nerve saying a word about Bush...
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Monkey
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| Wed Mar 31, 2004 5:18 am |
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i was for cheney
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Theresa
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| Wed Mar 31, 2004 7:32 am |
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So you were for Cheney, and by association, Bush? (since they are/were, running mates...)
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Mar 31, 2004 1:17 pm |
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Monkey, you confuse me.
You dislike Bush and yet you like Cheney? Well, then if you dislike Bush, then Cheney's guilty of being his VICE-PRESIDENT!!
Please clarify.
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Monkey
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| Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:22 am |
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sorry i was thinking of the wrong guy
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Republican_Man
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| Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:01 pm |
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Then who were you thinking of, may I ask?
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Monkey
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| Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:04 pm |
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Dean
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Republican_Man
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| Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:21 pm |
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Oh, the (foolish) (MY opinion) Democrat that could, or in this case, couldn't?
Well, at least that clarifies things.
Now may I ask why you supported Dean?
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Theresa
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| Sat Apr 03, 2004 12:02 am |
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Poor Dean is forever going to be associated w/ that scream, Poor guy, lol. Not to mention Al Gore endorsing him, that'd scare anyone.
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