Are you or would you be a Republican or a Democrat/Liberal or Conservative? |
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Democrat |
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CONSERVATIVE Republican |
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LIBERAL Democrat |
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
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Sat Mar 27, 2004 9:36 pm Republican or Democrat/Conservative or Liberal? |
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If you live or lived in America, would you be a Republican or a Democrat, a Conservative or a Liberal? Why?
Please do NOT have debates in this discussion, just express your idea and opinion.
Much obliged.
PS: Not ALL Republicans are Conservative, and the same goes for Democrats with Liberalism. Most are moderates.
I am a CONSERVATIVE Republican for every reason.
REMINDER: Please, only give your opinion and leave it at that, if you may.
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Arellia The Quiet One
Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 4425 Location: Dallas, TX
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Sat Mar 27, 2004 9:50 pm |
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I'm very much a Conservative Republican. Why? A number of reasons, really. I agree on the conservative take on most issues that conservatives do--wellfare (Mostly against), capital punishment (Advisable in extreme situations), gay marriage (More no than yes, though I don't like the idea of getting rid of a *civil right* I don't think so...), abortion (No way, only in cases where the mother would otherwise die), gun laws (Pro-concealed weapons and ownership of firearms), etc. As far as education goes, I think it needs work as far as individualizing, and with the environment, I think that forests should be protected, but the tree sitters need to 'get lives' because it's really not as bad a situation as people would like you to think...the drilling in Alaska, I say go for it, (Though that's an old issue) and I agree on the war.
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Puck The Texan
Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596
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Sat Mar 27, 2004 11:31 pm |
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republican...just unsure on Gay Marriage and I do not approve the death penalty
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IntrepidIsMe Pimp Handed
Joined: 14 Jun 2002 Posts: 13057 Location: New York
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Sat Mar 27, 2004 11:32 pm |
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Republican. The only thing I don't agree with is not allowing gay marriage.
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Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001 Posts: 27256 Location: United States of America
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Sat Mar 27, 2004 11:34 pm |
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Conservative Republican. I find the actual act of homosexuality icky, but really, I couldn't care less. (follow that thought all the way to the end, people)
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jbering69 Lieutenant
Joined: 09 Mar 2004 Posts: 137 Location: Canada
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Sat Mar 27, 2004 11:49 pm |
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If I lived in the U.S. I would have to go with Liberal Democrat. I agree with Theresa and find homosexual acts somewhat repulsive but I could care less if they marry. I strongly support universal health care. I understand the need for welfare but given the choice would choose never to draw from it (I would rather work the most dead - end job and feel good about the honest dollars in my bank account).
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
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Sun Mar 28, 2004 12:31 am |
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[I like this calm expression of views. I think I'll try it...]
I am, as you know, a Conservative Republican in which I oppose abortions unless the mother's life is in danger, I don't believe in Gay Marraige nor Civil Unions (on both religious and other terms), I want lower taxes, I'm for Vouchers (even though I go to a good Public School District), I'm for the 2nd Amendment (Right to Bear Arms) only I oppose assault weapons, and I oppose the death penalty--it's too leanient a punishment...And those are just my key core beliefs.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
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Sun Mar 28, 2004 2:03 am |
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Does anyone else have views to express?
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Seven of Nine Sammie's Mammy
Joined: 16 Jun 2001 Posts: 7871 Location: North East England
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Sun Mar 28, 2004 4:08 am |
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OK, I live in the UK, and there is a party called the Liberal Democrats
I'm very Liberal and am about to join the Socialist Worker's Party.
On homosexuals, I believe they should have the same rights as the rest of us.
On abortion, I believe it's the mother's choice, since not having an abortion when the mother couldn't cope would cause distress both to the mother and the child.
On welfare and education, I believe that for those who genuinely cannot work, or wish to continue with their education, there should be support from the government if they need it. There should also be help for those on low incomes to ensure they stay out of poverty. Education should be available to all, at all levels.
On capital punishment, although I understand why some countries use it, I disagree with it except in extreme situations, and never for those under 18.
On guns, I believe that you should need to have a licence to own one, and that you should undergo training before you can get a licence. There should be a national register of all those who own guns.
On healthcare, I believe that it should be free for all (as it already is).
I also believe that workers should have rights, and should have a decent wage.
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Puck The Texan
Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596
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Sun Mar 28, 2004 10:25 am |
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Quote: | On abortion, I believe it's the mother's choice, since not having an abortion when the mother couldn't cope would cause distress both to the mother and the child.
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It was also the mothers choice to become involved in sexual intercourse. Unless the mother was a victim of rape, or it seriously endangers her health, abortion should be made illegal. It is murder of another human being. In this case it is not the mothers right to have an abortion, because in doing so, she is taking away the right of the baby to live. No matter what, distress or no distress, in these cases it is murder, taking away another individuals life, because the mother and the father were not more responsible indviduals.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
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Sun Mar 28, 2004 12:35 pm |
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I did not want to make this a debate, but I have no choice but to argue a few points:
-Abortion is killing of another human being, born or not.
-Liberals would argue about rape and forced incest, however, but I still agree with that.
-Born babies of which the parents cannot care for should be taken to a special center for children.
-However, it IS THE PARENTS FAULT, as Janeway said, that the baby was formed via sexual intercorse.
-Do all people NOT have the right to exist?? I wonder...
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Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001 Posts: 27256 Location: United States of America
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Sun Mar 28, 2004 2:09 pm |
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Why is the father always disregarded in abortion discussions? The baby is just as much his. Yes, the woman generally carries it to term, but hello, welcome to the 21st century. The baby can now be carried by another. Not to mention, it is murder. Calling it a fetus doesn't change the fact that it is a baby.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
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Sun Mar 28, 2004 6:02 pm |
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Theresa wrote: | Why is the father always disregarded in abortion discussions? The baby is just as much his. Yes, the woman generally carries it to term, but hello, welcome to the 21st century. The baby can now be carried by another. Not to mention, it is murder. Calling it a fetus doesn't change the fact that it is a baby. |
All I have to say is, "Amen!"
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Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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Sun Mar 28, 2004 6:08 pm |
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If I was in danger of dying I would die and let my child live. There is no reason to kill a baby. My husband would be prepare to take care of all my kids.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
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Sun Mar 28, 2004 6:11 pm |
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Now I think that you make a resonable point, Kmma.
I would, if I were a woman having a baby, let my child live.
However, one would argue, what about those dads that aren't responsible? Although that's a fine question, Parents NEED to be responsible...
What do you think?
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Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001 Posts: 27256 Location: United States of America
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Sun Mar 28, 2004 11:00 pm |
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kmma wrote: | If I was in danger of dying I would die and let my child live. There is no reason to kill a baby. My husband would be prepare to take care of all my kids. |
In this circumstance, as a female, I would probably do the same as you. But from the husband/fathers position, I'm sure the picture would be very different. I honestly cannot say I know what choice I'd make in his shoes.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
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Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:24 pm |
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Well, as I said, I am a guy, and if I had to take care of my baby in a future of which I would have one, I would. But what about that arguement that I stated before? [Look up...]
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Los Commodore
Joined: 07 Jun 2002 Posts: 1336 Location: Oklahoma fa sho!
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Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:25 am |
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Liberal Republican here.
I agree with many party issues but am wary of some.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
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Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:06 pm |
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Los, then that makes you a MODERATE REPUBLICAN, if you agree with many issues on both sides...To be a Liberal Republican is to be a person like Zell Miller who hardly agrees with what his fellow Democrats believe...
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Monkey Captain
Joined: 05 Feb 2004 Posts: 833 Location: On a quest you probably wouldn't believe.
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Wed Mar 31, 2004 5:04 am |
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i'm liberal but i'm against gay marriage and abortion but i'm all for gun regestration not a ban but i'm against the ownership of automatic weapons but on september 13 this year they will be lawful to own which stinks i mean what on earth do you need a G-18, HK-5 or even worse a KGB3 which can pierce flak jackets
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