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CaptJD
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 Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:15 pm Sisko's Defiant vs. Janeway's Intrepid(Voyager) |
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Okay so we battled over who would win in a fight with Picard and Janeway, but what about Sisko and Janeway. Now I would like to specify that we're talking about the Regular defiant from DS9 and Voyager from before it recieved its upgrades from the future... Now my money is on Sisko and the Defiant, does anyone care to dispute that?
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jbi507
Lieutenant Commander
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Posts: 254
Location: DS9
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| Wed Mar 10, 2004 3:33 am |
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i agree the defiant, has much more fire power, smaller, and then again it is a warship.
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harrykims#1fan
Fan Girl Muskateer
Joined: 08 Feb 2002
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| Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:47 am |
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Voyager because it has had way more experience than the defiant.....
and its had them borg modifications in it as well
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John Connor
Admiral of the Terran Empire
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| Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:14 am |
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Id defintally say that Voyager will beat them. Thats who I think is gonna win.
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Pah-Wraith
Sheikh
Joined: 30 Nov 2001
Posts: 6012
Location: Londonistan.
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| Wed Mar 10, 2004 2:16 pm |
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The Defiant as a Federation Ship specifically designed for War, it has been upgraded too and also is equipped with a Cloaking Device...getting to the point, the Defiant's Crew have a lot higher Morale than Voyagers (they are all trained Federation officers) and the Ship is designed more for Combat than the Intrepid Class is.
In Conclusion I'd have to say the Defiant, although I and Most Trek Fans would be biased due to the fact we are obviously going to lean more towards the Ship that was featured in our Favourite Series which obviously for me was DS9 
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IntrepidIsMe
Pimp Handed
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Posts: 13057
Location: New York
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| Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:23 pm |
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The defiant, obviously. It was made for war.
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]{lingon
Senior Cadet
Joined: 08 Mar 2004
Posts: 23
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| Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:57 pm |
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I think they both being equal in advanced technology (Voyager would be able to detect defiant in cloaked mode with metaphasic sweep and use weapons and defiant could use a tractior beam to deflect voyagers weapons fire) and experienced captains, both captains would disable each others ships in battle.
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Achilles
Commodore
Joined: 12 Nov 2002
Posts: 1718
Location: Flibdor
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| Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:14 pm |
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The Defiant.
It's more manuverable, it's far more heavily armed, it has abladive armour whereas Voyager doesn't and it's designed for war. The Defiant could de-cloak and do severe damage to Voyager before the Intrepid-class ship could even get a shot off! It's not a fair fight..
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The_Doctor
Lieutenant Commander
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| Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:42 pm Voyager |
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Definately Voyager, if the Defiant somehow was beating them, they could always ram into the defiant and destroy it (if they could tractor it and catch it). lol 
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voyager rules!
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| Thu Mar 11, 2004 1:30 am |
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Okay, for starters, I agree with harrykims#1fan (I love him to!) newayz, Voyager has also been stompin through the Delta quadrent battlin aliens, but I just hope they never do get into a fight! That would be awful!
Voayger'll beat em1 Just you watch! Now I just hope I'm right!
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Leo Wyatt
Sweetest Angel
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| Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:33 pm |
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I say Voyager. 
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commanderbj
Captain
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Posts: 714
Location: At Home Being A Geek
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| Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:47 pm |
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Voyager would win no matter what then have more Power full Weapon's and it's stronger then Sisko's Ship i say's VOYAGER ALL THE WAY!!!
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Captain Dappet
Forum Revolutionist
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Posts: 16756
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| Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:09 pm |
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The Defiant, obviously. It was built specifically for War, people. Voyager is not a warship.
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Valathous
The Canadian, eh
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| Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:13 pm |
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You people all do realize that the Defiant has Pulse Phasors. That would beat the hell outta Voyager's shields and hulls, before Voy could fire off their normal phasors.
The Defiant. It was built for war, where-as Voy was built for scouting.
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Leo Wyatt
Sweetest Angel
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| Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:30 pm |
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You think anything would beat Voyager. Voyager is better Defiant. It does not have the weapons capablity as Voyager.
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Achilles
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| Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:02 pm |
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| kmma wrote: | | You think anything would beat Voyager. Voyager is better Defiant. It does not have the weapons capablity as Voyager. |
The Defiant is designed for war. It has better weapons than Voyager, purely because it does.
The Defiant could disable Voyager before they even knew what was happening. Imagine this .. Voyager is crusing along, minding it's own buisness, when suddenly the Defiant decloacks and fires a volley at Voyager causing major damage. Voyager wouldn't be able to react because it's crippled and so the Defiant would win the battle easily.
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Leo Wyatt
Sweetest Angel
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| Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:06 pm |
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It was design for the Domion wars not to fight Voyager TY.
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Achilles
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| Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:11 pm |
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| kmma wrote: | | It was design for the Domion wars not to fight Voyager TY. |
Designed for the Borg threat, designed for fighting in the Dominion War, designed for repelling any attack on the Federation .. it doesn't matter what the Defiant was designed for, the matter of fact here is that it was designed for combat, Voyager wasn't. On a level playing field the Defiant would win over and over again, it's really not a fair fight to be honest.
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Pah-Wraith
Sheikh
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| Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:04 pm |
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Like many ppl have mentioned Kmma, the Defiant along with the Akira are the Federation's Only Classes designed for War purposes only. The Defiant Class could easily beat the Intrepid Class, Voyager included 
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jbering69
Lieutenant
Joined: 09 Mar 2004
Posts: 137
Location: Canada
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| Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:29 am |
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the Defiant would lay down pulse phaser cannon death to Voyager. Like it has been stated before, Voyager was designed to be a minor explorer vessel, Defiant is designed for war, minimal sickbay, crewquarters etc.
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imzadi76
Commander
Joined: 15 Jan 2004
Posts: 367
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| Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:00 pm |
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defiant was made for war, but then again so was voyager. Voyager is bigger, has a larger compliment, and has the delta flyer ready to deploy- so I'm voting for Voyager.
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Achilles
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| Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:48 pm |
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| imzadi76 wrote: | | but then again so was voyager. Voyager is bigger, has a larger compliment, and has the delta flyer ready to deploy- so I'm voting for Voyager. |
Taken from Starship Spotter:
'One of a series of newer and more compact ships, the Intrepid-class was designed to be a fast multimission starship primarily intended for exploration, survey and courier missions.'
The ship is also classed as a 'Light Explorer/Scout Vessel'.
Voyager wasn't built for war at all.
Anyway, size doesn't matter, neither does the Delta Flyer. One volley from the Defiants Pulse Cannons or the Quantum Torpedo Launchers would reduce it to dust. The Defiant is more manuverable, rendering the Voayger's advantage in size useless. Defiant is also mored heavily armed, has better defneses .. we could go on.
Seriously. How could a scout ship take out a heavily armed warship that can obliterate 2 JemHadar Attack Vessels in one attack run.
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Leo Wyatt
Sweetest Angel
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| Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:49 pm |
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Also got to remember than Voyager is more manuverable than the Defiant is. Voyager is built for war, why else they were sent to capture the Maquis? Voyager has lasers that can go all around where as Defiant does not. I say Voyager has more fire amunition than the Defiant put together.
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Achilles
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| Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:01 pm |
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| kmma wrote: | | Also got to remember than Voyager is more manuverable than the Defiant is. Voyager is built for war, why else they were sent to capture the Maquis? Voyager has lasers that can go all around where as Defiant does not. I say Voyager has more fire amunition than the Defiant put together. |
Well, seeing as the Defiant is the only ship out of these two that was built for war (as we clearly established) .. it's easy to see that it has more firepower. Voyager does have a wider field of fire than the Defiant, but they are up against a very manuverable ship and one run from the Defiant's Pulse Cannons is far more effective than a few shots at different angles .. one of those runs would rip Voyager's shields to pieces.
Defiant is more manuverable simple because it's smaller.
Something else. The work on buliding the Defiant-class was started after work on the Intrepid-class had begun, but the Defiant-class is the first ship designed and built for war. That alone suggests the Defiant is a warship, whereas Voyager isn't.
Voyager was sent to find out what happened to the Maquis ship basically because at the time it was one of very few ships that could safely navigate the badlands plasma storms and complete the mission. It's not because it was designed for war.
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Pah-Wraith
Sheikh
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| Thu Mar 18, 2004 1:25 pm |
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| kmma wrote: | | Also got to remember than Voyager is more manuverable than the Defiant is. Voyager is built for war, why else they were sent to capture the Maquis? Voyager has lasers that can go all around where as Defiant does not. I say Voyager has more fire amunition than the Defiant put together. |
Ok, if you're going to say Voyager was built for war provide some strong evidence to support it!
Voyager was sent to capture the Maquis because the Maquis are an unpredictable organisation that just happened to be where Voyager was at the Time.
Fact about it, the Akira and Defiant Classes are the only ships built for war.
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