A good ole Debate

Jeff Miller · **Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:35 am A good ole Debate**

I was watching a movie on HBO this morning it was called Bowling for Columbine it was a documentry about americas fixation with guns well thats not what I really want to talk about. They got to a point in the movie where they talked about what happened at Columbine the goverment was blaming everything from Movies to Video games than they blamed Sock Rocker Marlyn Manson for the deaths my question is Does Video games, Movies or music make a violent person? talk about it here.

I don't think it does you see a commerical that says everyone needs a ford but does that mean your going to go get a ford? NO! Only a small ammount of people may so I don't see its possible how people can say that music, movies and those all mighty evil video games can make a person kill.

Thomas · **Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:40 am**

No, IMO. People are able to recognise that a video game is a video game and leave it at that. If a video game or whatever did cause someone to commit a murder or violent crime, then they'd have to have been pretty unstable already for it to happen.

IntrepidIsMe · **Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:46 am**

I don't think so either, with all of the stuff coming out with violence in it, we'd see ALOT more crime then that which already exists. Plus you'd have to be rather disabled not to realize that there's a difference between video games and real life. If you can't then you need help. I mean, the graphics suck

Just kidding

Kyre · Commodore Joined: 15 Mar 2002 Posts: 1263

Yes. I think that violent entertainment (computer games specifically) has the ability to provoke real violence. I also agree that you'd have to be pretty unstable to not recognise the difference, but the danger is there regardless. There should be a way of taking away violent games from kids. Because lets face it, noone pays much attention to ratings.

IntrepidIsMe · **Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:04 am**

That's true, here you can pretty much buy an M rated game, being under 17, and the cahsier won't bother to do anything about it.

Jeff Miller · **Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:10 am**

Thomas · **Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:21 am**

I'd never try to buy an 18 rated game, simply because I could never pass for it. I don't even look 15. I haven't had much experience with buying video games as I don't really play them, so I'm not too sure how strict they actually are with respect to the ratings, but I do remember one time when my brother tried to buy a game rated 15 when he was about 12. They wouldn't let him. If I really wanted to get a game I'd only have to ask one of my older brothers to buy it (one of them actually works in a store that sells games, movies, etc; probably the biggest store in the town). So I'd say that the shops here do take notice, but parents and whoever else generally don't care.

IntrepidIsMe · **Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:24 am**

Los · **Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:50 am**

I believe the enviornment in which people are exposed to (outside things, parental upbringing, etc) have a bigger role than the media and video games.

imzadi76 · **Wed Feb 18, 2004 1:11 pm**

You unconsciously are influenced by everything you see & hear. If people didn't imitate what they see commercials and plugs wouldn't work as well and there wouldn't be thousands on young girls with eating disorders.

This is why you should make everyone you know watch Star Trek!

Seven of Nine · **Wed Feb 18, 2004 2:45 pm**

I believe they can do, in children and in those more susceptible to violence anyway. Those who don't understand the difference between fantasy (in video games, films, etc.) and reality might copy what they see and this could make them more violent.

They've done tests on three year olds that proves that children copy what they watch.

However, in a normal adult, video games and movies can make you less violent. I'd rather go run over people on Grand Theft Auto than hurt myself or someone else. It helps me to let out my agression in a safe way.

DemonClassY · **Wed Feb 18, 2004 3:11 pm**

Anyone who says that violence in the media cause other people to act violent have problems of their own.

People have their own minds, violence in the media is just an exuse for violence. It pisses me off really bad when someone suggests that violence in the media cause a homoside or suicide, like Chris Rock said,"What ever happened to crazy?"

Sam Kenobi · **Wed Feb 18, 2004 3:19 pm**

I don't think it causes it, but it can definatly be an influence or a catalyst

Josi Rockholt · **Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:54 pm**

^an influence is for sure. I mean,with less violent shows and games,there might be a lot less violence. Sure,there would be some,but not as much.

Jeff Miller · **Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:59 pm**

IntrepidIsMe · **Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:18 pm**

Arn't you over 17 anyway?

Defiant · **Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:45 am**

I have one thing to say.

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Jeff Miller · **Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:50 am**

Jeremy · **Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:02 pm**

I think that it does a little, but not to the extend many people make it out to be. It's not the reason someone would go out and kill people, but it wil increase violence by causing more fighting. I'm 16 by the way, so amn't a boring old adult. It also depends on the person playing it. For some it will do almost nothing, and others it will affect them quite a lot.

imzadi76 · **Thu Feb 19, 2004 7:10 pm**

Kyre · Commodore Joined: 15 Mar 2002 Posts: 1263

Theresa · **Sun Feb 22, 2004 12:53 pm**

I think it can influence, yes, but cause? No, not by itself.

sabertooth1217 · **Tue Feb 24, 2004 9:37 pm**

I hate to say this but im going to have to agree that Video games, music and TV does showcase violence to our youth and teens of america and around the world. Little kids around the age of four or fife go out and buy video games, and they see there first killings. What i do agree is how the Video games do have a rating system like movies. But just like movies, kids will 'sneak in' and watch/play the games. The same go with adult movies on the internet.

People shouls make all video games less viloent and more puzzle like. That way it would be both fun and it would seem like it shows less about war. The other day i saw a video game sthat was titles 'US army back in Iraq' r something along the lines of that. I disagreee with the making of that game 100%. OUr troops went over and died for our country and they should not be made fun of by making a video game after the war in Iraq, which is still going on as we speak.

Jeff Miller · **Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:19 am**

PrankishSmart · **Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:39 am**