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EnsignParis Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 07 Sep 2001 Posts: 257
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Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:35 am Theories on how the universe will become...well...nothing. |
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Well, I have heard of two theories on how the universe will end, but I have thought of a third.
The two I have heard of, one of which is quite popular (The Big Shrink Theory), says that the Universe is expanding all the time (because of The Big Bang), but at one point, the gravitational pull of all the matter in the universe will become too great, and it will collapse in on itself.
A second theory, one not so popular (not sure of the name), says that all the stars in the universe will die, some of which turning into black holes, will eventually suck everything into trillions of black holes littering the universe.
And finally, my (not really mine...I'm sure someone else has pondered this as well) third theory. I've been reading this book... Hyperspace by Michio Kaku, and it says that protons actually decay (in theory). Yes, you heard me right, the once thought stable proton is actually unstable, just like the transuranium elements. The thing about the proton is that, the half life of proton decay is something like 10^33 years...a number much, much, MUCH greater than the life of the universe (which is somewhere in the range of 10-20 billion years I believe). So yeah. What I am proposing is that eventually, all protons will decay, leaving no possibility of matter, since the proton, a basic particle of matter, will eventually cease to exist.
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Trekkie617 Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 18 Jul 2003 Posts: 303 Location: Georgia, but I miss Oklahoma
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Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:05 am |
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Well, I think Christie Golden has explored these things in the last Voyager books before the relaunch. She called the theories, "The Big Freeze", and "The Big Crunch/Squeeze".
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starnova Commodore
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1544 Location: Commodore on the USS Farraget
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Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:09 pm |
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i like (and think) that the big shrink will happen.
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Tue Sep 07, 2004 11:45 am |
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well, its clear too the fact that we just don't have enough brain mass too ever figure this out. we never will so you can stop trying. every theory I have heard so far (hundereds) are total rubbish, i mean one worse than the other (like the big bang theory). The point actually is that i have too prove it so you're theory can be the next one too be 'assumed' because thats all we can do. The theory that has now been pointed as the one is a theory that is obviously flaw but closest too the actual thing than any other. So that theory is now 'assumed' but no theory will ever be the truth. Doesn't matter how complicated you make it (like the protons *beep* or the black holes).
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starnova Commodore
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1544 Location: Commodore on the USS Farraget
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Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:19 pm |
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but you cant really find out unless you are at the moment of the END.
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Birdy Socialist
Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 13502 Location: Here.
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Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:16 am |
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Hm, I don't like those 3 options. I saw a show on tv, and they also talked about the Big Bang. The had a new theory: the Big Bang wasn't the beginning. It was just that the universe was very compact in the beginning, and the they could collide easily with eachother. And so: Bang.
It's called the String Theory. It also explains that Quarks aren't actually quarks, but they are strings. Anyway, too much offtopic.
I'd rather like the idea that the universe never 'dies' but, well, that's not very realistic. If I h�d to choose I would pick theory number.. 2, because it wouldn't necessary mean the end of the universe. I mean, were does that black hole lead? It has to go somewhere (i'm pretty stubborn )..
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:45 am |
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a black hole doesn't 'lead' anywhere. Its gravity.
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Birdy Socialist
Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 13502 Location: Here.
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Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:47 am |
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lionhead wrote: | a black hole doesn't 'lead' anywhere. Its gravity. |
oh. ok... sorry.. I don't know everything about the universe yet, like YOU... (A)
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starnova Commodore
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1544 Location: Commodore on the USS Farraget
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Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:40 am |
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but still you can never know untill the END
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Sat Sep 25, 2004 2:20 am |
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i don't really think you know anything in the END.
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starnova Commodore
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1544 Location: Commodore on the USS Farraget
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Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:25 am |
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how will the human race know when the end is coming?
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:55 am |
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Why would we know?
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Five - seveN Rear Admiral
Joined: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 3567 Location: Shadow Moon
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Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:03 am |
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starnova wrote: | how will the human race know when the end is coming? |
We will be boiled like a lobster in a pan! It'll be fun!
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starnova Commodore
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1544 Location: Commodore on the USS Farraget
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Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:26 pm |
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then who is going to eat us?
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:59 am |
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who else? God of course, that bastard! itsl ike a huge interstellar Sish Kebab(sp?)
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Five - seveN Rear Admiral
Joined: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 3567 Location: Shadow Moon
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Sat Oct 02, 2004 6:58 am |
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starnova wrote: | then who is going to eat us? |
Q of course! or the 8472's or some other kind of �ber-transneurogenic being
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starnova Commodore
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1544 Location: Commodore on the USS Farraget
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Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:56 am |
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do you think Q might think of us as a bad tasting race?
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Five - seveN Rear Admiral
Joined: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 3567 Location: Shadow Moon
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Fri Oct 08, 2004 5:55 am |
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^uh... tough one.... er, I hope so
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EnsignParis Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 07 Sep 2001 Posts: 257
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Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:56 pm |
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starnova wrote: | then who is going to eat us? |
The sun, when it turns into a red giant.
Or something, else.
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Otter Fleet Admiral
Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 12895 Location: England
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Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:48 pm |
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I've bin hearing the world is going end since bin born, well at least since it seems that long, anyways b it the Uni or our planet that go's pop. let's live 4 now.
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:59 am |
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As long as it happens when i died of old age...and my children...
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Nate Jameson Lieutenant
Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 144 Location: Michigan, USA
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Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:38 am |
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Well, I believe that the end of the world is foretold in the Bible- specifically in Revelation.
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Hitchhiker Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 3514 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:40 am |
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The Earth has roughly 5 billion years left to live. In the last few million years of its life, the sun will slowly expand, increasing the surface temperature of the terristerial planets. It will engulf Mercury, then Venus, then Earth, and perhaps Mars. Eventually it will implode upon itself and become a cold, white dwarf star.
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Nate Jameson Lieutenant
Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 144 Location: Michigan, USA
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Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:21 pm |
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That is if God doesn't come back for his people before that. (My Belief)
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Sat Oct 23, 2004 5:57 pm |
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If god has been away, then i don't even want him to come back.(the bastard)
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