Over Warp 10 is possible

borgslayer · **Fri Nov 21, 2003 5:55 am Over Warp 10 is possible**

On The Next Generation's last episode All good things Part II

The Olympic Class Hospital Ship of Captain Beverly Crusher could go at warp 13.

Admiral Riker ship a modified Galaxy Class might also go at that speed since it has 3 warp drives.

John Connor · **Fri Nov 21, 2003 4:07 pm**

I would think it is possible to over warp 10. It will be very possible.

Captain Dappet · **Fri Nov 21, 2003 4:19 pm**

But nearly impossible for a Intrepid-Class ship, which probably caused the side effects on Tom Paris in Voyager.

IntrepidIsMe · **Fri Nov 21, 2003 4:56 pm**

Well, I'm sure they could find a way to adapt, not to mention, that was the shuttle, not Voyager.

Captain Jayson Day · **Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:49 pm**

specialized shielding and haul

Kyle Reese · **Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:30 pm**

I don't see why you'd want to. After all warp 10 is already infinite velocity, is anything beyond that?

EnsignParis · Lieutenant Commander Joined: 07 Sep 2001 Posts: 257

Nothing is beyond infinity. If anything was beyond it, then it would be a finite quantity.

Infinity is NOT a number or a value, therefore there is no "higher" than infinity. It is a CONCEPT saying that numbers go on forever.

Captain Dappet · **Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:59 am**

Achilles · **Thu Nov 27, 2003 10:18 pm Re: Over Warp 10 is possible**

Morphy · Forum Ogre Joined: 15 Jun 2001 Posts: 3858

I thought I read something in a star trek "technical manual" that warp 10 was the theoretical maximum. I suppose that is meant to be a condition in star trek "present time" (tng, ds9, voy). You're right though that in "All good things..." they went faster, but that was supposed to be in the future.

Kyle Reese · **Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:48 pm**

Like I said before, you can't go any faster than Warp 10.

IntrepidIsMe · **Wed Dec 03, 2003 6:23 pm**

But in "All Good Things" they went at warp 13

EnsignParis · Lieutenant Commander Joined: 07 Sep 2001 Posts: 257

There are two different scales, the TNG scale and the Cochran Scale.

Not quite sure what the difference is, but..yeah.

Also, Warp 10 is the theoretical maximum, but Warp 11 is slower. Warp 11 is where Transwarp begins.

Lt.BirdGod · **Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:50 pm**

Simple:

They modified the warp scale again. We don't know why, we don't know to what. Simple as that.

And yes, that is what infinite is. Endless. There are no numbers beyond infinity, because technically speaking, infinity does not exist. Everything has to end. Irrational numbers. Bah!

EnsignParis · Lieutenant Commander Joined: 07 Sep 2001 Posts: 257

Numbers don't end, and infinity is the concept that they don't end.

Kind of an interesting concept really, because take the biggest number you can imagine, and then square it, and it becomes MUCH MUCH MUCH bigger, but even still, it's not that much, because there are an infinite number of numbers after your new number.

It's also kind of interesting to say that there are more numbers between .000001 and .000002 than there are whole numbers between 1 and any number you can possibly think of.

Hehe.

Lt.BirdGod · **Sun Dec 07, 2003 2:46 pm**

Exactly. It's like against the Borg. I believe I talked about this before. Tuning the weapon's frequency to be effective against the shields. Design the little chip that increases by an extremely small amount. It's not the same frequency, so the borg shields will not adapt.

mr_glyn · **Mon Dec 08, 2003 9:29 am**

Hmmmm

Try a stable worm hole (DS9)

You'll defentitly travel faster then warp 10

Kyle Reese · **Mon Dec 08, 2003 7:19 pm**

Tsuki no Hikari · Ensign, Junior Grade Joined: 12 Feb 2002 Posts: 41

The Daystrom Institute has a pretty good article on this. He theorized that there are multiple levels of speed. When a ship jumps to warp, it passes from under warp to warp in the smallest fraction of time possible, thus overriding the need for infinite energy at light speed. The amount of energy then required to hit each level of warp reached a spike each time, then dropped off and rose again in an upward curved sawtooth fashion. Nearing warp 10 it approached infinity again, but by passing from under to over warp 10 in that same fraction of time, the need for infinite energy is surpassed and the ship reaches the trans-TNG warp scale. Warp 11 would take about as much energy as warp 7 or something, I can't quite remember, and it would resume the sawtooth shaped graph in energy. This would basically continue on each scale of ten, nearing infinity and then dropping off to less energy than the higher numbers of the last scale.

These pages explain it quite well.

http://www.ditl.org/scitech/datwarpscales.htm

http://www.ditl.org/scitech/dattranwarp.htm

They seemed to be longer when I first read them. But I went slowly to take it all in.

Paul Marshall · **Sat Jan 24, 2004 11:00 pm Re: Over Warp 10 is possible**

Tsuki no Hikari · Ensign, Junior Grade Joined: 12 Feb 2002 Posts: 41

Paris and Janeway only reached warp 10, which causes you to occupy all points in space at the same time. Warp 13, or any non 10th warp, is just another speed. You move along space just like warp 3, just a whole lot faster. According to the graphs, warp 13 would take the same power as warp 9.988, but travel over 25 times faster.

Paul Marshall · **Sat Jan 24, 2004 11:27 pm**

The physics are mind-blowing.

EnsignParis · Lieutenant Commander Joined: 07 Sep 2001 Posts: 257

Kyle Reese · **Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:29 pm**

I've also said it several times in this thread, that nothing is faster than Warp 10 I mean. Said it to him too.

Mulder · **Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:09 am**

Faster than warp 10 is possible. Traveling at warp 10, 20, 30 etc, is infinite speed but everything between is possible.