How would they self destruct if...

futile · **Sat May 31, 2003 11:48 am How would they self destruct if...**

How would they initiate the auto distruct sequence if someone ejected the warp core?

because the ship is distroyed by the warp core overloading

I edited your title from all caps - PrankishSmart.

Lt.BirdGod · **Sat May 31, 2003 9:02 pm**

Three Answers

1) They wouldn't

2) Overload the fusion reactor, sending out surges throughout the ship

OR

3) Detonate Torpedoes Inside

Captain Michael Pike · Captain Joined: 14 Jul 2001 Posts: 597 Location: PA

Actually, the auto destruct sequence is caused by an uncontrolled matter/antimatter reaction. The warp core is used to funnel the matter and antimatter in a typical autodestruct sequence, but is mostly unnecessary to the process overall. The crew could still create a m/a reation without the core.

Lt.BirdGod · **Sat May 31, 2003 11:26 pm**

They could, but they would have to dump the storage tanks together....

PrankishSmart · **Sat May 31, 2003 11:44 pm**

Well, they could combine the a/am from the storage tanks.

Captain Michael Pike · Captain Joined: 14 Jul 2001 Posts: 597 Location: PA

What difference does it make? The end result is the same. Also, they would probably transport the m/a together if they couldn't route it through the EPS conduits....

Kyle Reese · **Sun Jun 01, 2003 11:08 pm**

Well... they could plant bombs all over the ship and detonate em

Captain Michael Pike · Captain Joined: 14 Jul 2001 Posts: 597 Location: PA

Sure make it easy! LOL

Lt.BirdGod · **Mon Jun 02, 2003 11:25 am**

Dax Orien · **Tue Jun 03, 2003 9:20 am**

I bet either way that because they are a ship of the federation that they couldn't control the self destruct anyways......the council would to get rid of any nasty secrets the Federation might be hiding.

Lt.BirdGod · **Tue Jun 03, 2003 10:28 pm**

Heh. All those, "secret documents". They could claim every log about them, just happened to be on a ship........

Dax Orien · **Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:57 am**

How true. The best way to make information disappear is by making the source of the information disappear.

Link · **Sun Jun 15, 2003 10:31 am**

But how could a forcefield contain antimatter though?
a force field is made of energy and thats made of some matter and if matter contacts antimatter "KABOOM"

Captain CB · **Sun Jun 15, 2003 1:07 pm**

the force field is not made of matter it is made of energy and if they dumped the warp core they would detonate all photon and quantum torpedoes activate the normal autodestruct explosives and if they still have antimatter pods release all safety interlocks on the matter and antimater pods to destroy the ship.

Interstelar_Concordium_CM · **Sun Jun 15, 2003 7:09 pm**

they could just overload the engines, because the engines are filled with antimater, the core just acts as the channel, think of it like antimater is the water and the warp core is the funnel

Kyle Reese · **Sun Jun 15, 2003 11:33 pm**

just tell someone they were fired and their head would explode in fury and take the ship with it muahahahahha

Kejani Numora · Freshman Cadet Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 6

*revives the thread*

Arg. Must stop browsing unfamiliar forums in the early hours of the morning. It gives me headaches.

Anyway.

There are two modes of auto-destruct onboard standard Federation starships. The first is a controlled overload of both the fusion reactors and the warp drive, causing a rather nice explosion to completely and utterly vaporize the ship and anything within a close range.

The second mode of auto-destruct is through the use of ordinance packages placed throughout the ship. In the event that the warp core/fusion reactors are not cabable of causing an explosion sufficient enough to vaporize the ship, the main computer will automatically switch to secondary auto-destruct. Not as big of an explosion, but definitely enough to destroy anything of value onboard.

[Edit] The suggestion made above on an matter/antimatter reaction without the warp core is a little unsound, mainly because in a warp core ejection, it is sometimes necessary to also jettison the antimatter pods. Although, I 'guess' that, if you were not required to do so, that it'd be a plausable idea..

EnsignParis · Lieutenant Commander Joined: 07 Sep 2001 Posts: 257

Melodramatic · Rear Admiral Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 4577

I think they'd probally have some backup device.

Kyle Reese · **Sat Sep 27, 2003 8:22 pm**

I think they would just activate a torpedo or 2 without launching it

Hitomi · **Mon Sep 29, 2003 1:20 pm**

Dax Orien · **Thu Oct 02, 2003 1:21 pm**

You know what? It doesn't matter whether or not it's logically possible for them to blowup. The fact of the matter is that they would still blow up! I know at least one way that they could blow up at least one room, they could go into a holodeck and turn the safety protocols off and light 400 tons of Trinitrial Toluate (TNT). BBBOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM!