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Deela
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PostWed Jun 18, 2003 10:14 pm    Official Thread: Deanna Troi

Post here to discuss the Enterprise D/E's counselor, Deanna Troi.

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PostSat Jun 21, 2003 5:59 pm    

Deanna Troi would have to be my fave character of TNG.
She is a Betazoid, which makes her very good at her job, I am sure most Councelors wish they were Betazoid

She is very smart and her hair rocks


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PostSun Jun 22, 2003 10:57 am    

Deanna was pretty kewl, but most of the time she freaked me out. I'd be afraid to think anything bad infront of her in case she sensed it and had me thrown in the brig or something!


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PostSun Jul 06, 2003 4:34 am    

deanna troi is the best charater out of tng and probaly my 2nd fve star trek charcter out of every character.
marin sirtis is so good at acting her out and respect to marina the english gal.


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PostSun Jul 06, 2003 11:16 pm    

hmm never get inbetween her and the pudding lol expecally when its chcolate

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PostMon Jul 07, 2003 2:02 pm    

Dana Scully wrote:
her hair rocks


Lol, I love her hair. I would swap my hair for hers anyday!


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PostWed Jul 09, 2003 7:51 pm    

Yeah, I'd like to do that too.

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PostSat Jul 12, 2003 4:17 pm    

yeah but her curly hir when it was up in that funny hairband sort of thing was partly hair extensions and a wig it wasnt all her hair but when her hair went straight that was her own hair.i just gotta ask while on the topic of hair wht was the deal with the whole fuzzy look in encounter at farpoint that was bad.

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PostWed Jul 16, 2003 3:29 am    

Has anyone noticed that at the beginning of the episode (after the beginning credits) when Deanna and Will are in 10-FWD, and Deanna is describing to Will *exactly* how to eat the chocolate sundae, she looks exactly like Nigella Lawson????? I found it hilariously scary....The camera kept doing close ups on her face and it was just a bit weird...

Also, is it just me that thinks she sounds more English and less European in First Contact? (That's the only one I've seen, oh and nemesis) According to a BBC interview she was asked to put on the accent just so everyone in the show wasn't American, and she was good at accents.

The interview is here : http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/st/interviews/sirtis/index.shtml

I just had to put up some of the hilarious things she said...sorry...

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Patrick Stewart has been described as one of the fifty most beautiful people in the world. What was the cast's reaction to this?

Patrick Stewart isn't my type I have to say! I can understand how other people would regard him as one of the fifty most beautiful people in the world - I knew this was going to happen.

I remember going to a convention, one time, and mentioning Patrick's name, and women screaming. This was quite early on and I came back to work and said, 'You know, Patrick, you're on your way to becoming a sex symbol.' He said, 'Oh, don't be ridiculous, darling.' So I told him 'No, I'm totally serious - watch out.' My words came true and he did become this huge sex symbol, which I'm sure he never imagined was going to happen in his wildest dreams.

We got some pretty bad reviews in some newspaper when we first started, and one of Patrick's reviews said, 'Unknown Shakespearean actor,' which we taped on his door of his trailer – or 'First choice low comedy at the RSC'. It was a surprise for him, but not so much for us - of course, we teased him mercilessly. That was the kind of set we had, we just teased him – 'Oh watch out, here's one of the most beautiful people in the world.' That was about the time we started calling him 'Your Majesty.'


Then there's Worf, big old, dumb old Worf – you can cut that – Troi was very nurturing and spiritual, and Worf just wanted to blow everyone out of the sky. I thought we had some very interesting scenes together because of that.

Of course, there are episodes where I was just standing around saying 'Captain, he's hiding something,'. But even then, they were challenging, because Patrick Stewart would say things like, 'Well, we know that, you stupid cow . Waste of space, come on, get on with it.' and so it was fresh because it was funny and it never got stale.


Ack! I can't find where she said that she was asked to do the accent, but she did say it, at some point, somewhere....I'll try to find out...


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PostWed Jul 16, 2003 11:24 am    

i love that article its so funny,marina sirtis is one of those ppl who i imagine stays pretty close to the cast and thinks very highly of them.
and you really thought that she looked like nigella lawson in that clip i didnt i thought she looked like a woman very passionate about her chocolate.


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PostFri Jul 18, 2003 9:11 am    

^ You're in the UK? Or do they have Alistair McGowan's Big Impression in America too? Because I've never really watched Nigella, it's just she was very like the way Ronni Ancona does Nigella...

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PostThu Jul 31, 2003 3:38 pm    

yes i am in the uk and Alistair McGowens big imperessions are hillirious.So you mean ronni's Nigella looks like deanna not the real Nigella ok but i still think they look a little differant.

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PostSun Oct 19, 2003 8:00 am    

Saoirse_Granger wrote:
According to a BBC interview she was asked to put on the accent just so everyone in the show wasn't American, and she was good at accents.
Ack! I can't find where she said that she was asked to do the accent, but she did say it, at some point, somewhere....I'll try to find out...



Oops, my mistake, coz its on her cast profile at StarTrek.Com

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Star Trek: The Next Generation's viewers do not hear Marina's English accent, but rather a combination of several different accents that she has devised. "In the 24th century, geographical or nationalistic barriers are not so evident. The Earth as a planet is your country, your nationality. I didn't want anyone to be able to pin down my accent to any particular country, and being good at accents, the producers trusted me to come up with something appropriate," she explains.


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PostThu Oct 23, 2003 10:35 pm    

Sorry, gang... but, Troi is my least favorite character. To me, she's not a very convincing actress. Beverly Crusher wasn't too convincing at first, but she got better... Troi never changed. The only time it seemed that she was any good at all, was when she had her confrontations with her mother.
Remember when she turned into a fish ? I think that was her best acting ever

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PostMon Oct 27, 2003 12:38 pm    

Personally, i think she was merely playing the part that she was supposed to play. I think the character was supposed to be portrayed like that.


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PostMon Oct 27, 2003 11:04 pm    

O.K.... I'll try not talk about her lousy acting. Only what I perceive Troi's personality to be. To me, she comes out too high-mind and better than everyone else, 'cuz she can sense everyone's emotions.
I don't remember the name of the episode where she loses that ability of sensing emotions. She still thought she was too good to take advice from anyone, when she lost her ability and everyone was trying to help her. She's not a very humble person. She loves to give advice, but can't take it.
I guess, that's the main reason she's my least favorite Star Trek character.

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PostWed Oct 29, 2003 6:20 am    

Saoirse_Granger wrote:
Saoirse_Granger wrote:
According to a BBC interview she was asked to put on the accent just so everyone in the show wasn't American, and she was good at accents.
Ack! I can't find where she said that she was asked to do the accent, but she did say it, at some point, somewhere....I'll try to find out...



Oops, my mistake, coz its on her cast profile at StarTrek.Com

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Star Trek: The Next Generation's viewers do not hear Marina's English accent, but rather a combination of several different accents that she has devised. "In the 24th century, geographical or nationalistic barriers are not so evident. The Earth as a planet is your country, your nationality. I didn't want anyone to be able to pin down my accent to any particular country, and being good at accents, the producers trusted me to come up with something appropriate," she explains.


Yaay! I did something useful for once in my life!


Am I the only one who thought she sounded canadian-french in the beggining of the series? I'm serious, listen to her in the first few episodes and then listen to say... celine dion speak. It sounds like the same accent to me.



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PostWed Oct 29, 2003 6:24 am    

Slash_Gordon wrote:
O.K.... I'll try not talk about her lousy acting. Only what I perceive Troi's personality to be. To me, she comes out too high-mind and better than everyone else, 'cuz she can sense everyone's emotions.
I don't remember the name of the episode where she loses that ability of sensing emotions. She still thought she was too good to take advice from anyone, when she lost her ability and everyone was trying to help her. She's not a very humble person. She loves to give advice, but can't take it.
I guess, that's the main reason she's my least favorite Star Trek character.

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I don't think she sounded arrogant or conceited or pretentious in any way... she just sounded like someone who knew what she was doing and knew she was good at it. That's confidence, not arrogance. And also, when she lost her empathic abbilities it was a very traumatic experience for her. It'd be like one of us suddenly going deaf. A person who could never hear in the first place wouldn't see the big deal, but it is, yano? She was having a hard time, doubting herself, she didn't know how to do her job anymore. Anyways...



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PostWed Oct 29, 2003 7:38 am    

Actually, if I all of a sudden went deaf, I would gladly accept the help. Come to think of it, I'd accept help if I went blind and lost a leg.
She was so much in the habit of telling others what they needed to do, to straighten their life out, that she couldn't accept someone else telling her what she oughta do to do the same.
She reminds me of a foreman I used to have at work. After a few yrs. of giving orders to me, I came up with an idea that would make things a little more efficient. The foreman ignored me and then later, did my idea without any acknowledgement that it was my idea. It's easy to see that my foreman couldn't accept it, that I gave him a good idea. He was so in the habit of giving the directions and telling people how something should be done, that when someone else gave some good advice, he couldn't handle it.
Troi's the same way, 'cuz she couldn't handle good advice after being in the habit of running the show.



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PostThu Oct 30, 2003 12:50 am    

Slash_Gordon wrote:
Actually, if I all of a sudden went deaf, I would gladly accept the help. Come to think of it, I'd accept help if I went blind and lost a leg.
She was so much in the habit of telling others what they needed to do, to straighten their life out, that she couldn't accept someone else telling her what she oughta do to do the same.
She reminds me of a foreman I used to have at work. After a few yrs. of giving orders to me, I came up with an idea that would make things a little more efficient. The foreman ignored me and then later, did my idea without any acknowledgement that it was my idea. It's easy to see that my foreman couldn't accept it, that I gave him a good idea. He was so in the habit of giving the directions and telling people how something should be done, that when someone else gave some good advice, he couldn't handle it.
Troi's the same way, 'cuz she couldn't handle good advice after being in the habit of running the show.


I would think that when someone looses a sense or a limb, they aren't thinking clearly enough to accept advice... she just wanted to sort things out for herself, and why the heck would someone take advice from someone who has no idea what you're going through? They don't know how to help coz they've never been there.



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PostThu Oct 30, 2003 3:18 am    

Well... I think that when Beverly Crusher was trying to help Troi, it was good advice, 'cuz she's a doctor. I think that Guinan even tried to help her.
I've never seen Crusher get a broken leg, but she still knew how to treat it.
Also, I've never heard of anyone that gets hurt in a car accident or in a football game, tell the paramedics to get lost and then say, " you don't know what your talking about, so get away, I don't need your help 'cuz this never happened to you."
There a thousands of ppl everyday that are mentally ill that get help from psychiatrist. Even though, the psychiatrist have never been mentally ill themselves... the mentally ill still want their help.
Troi got mentally ill, and was just too lofty and arrogant to accept any kind of help. A simple hug was even out of the question. At least, until Riker finally got her to see the light. Troi later on, acknowledged being too stuck up when she broke down crying and finally accepted at least Riker's company.
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why the heck would someone take advice from someone who has no idea what you're going through? They don't know how to help coz they've never been there.

Troi was always giving advice on what ppl should do, yet she never lived in their shoes. Reverse the tables, and she won't take advice or help.


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PostSat Nov 08, 2003 11:08 am    

I think that Deana is most likely the deepest character in the whole series. Such a history. Her older sister drowned, and her mother, hopelessly in love with herself, orders all the pictures of her older sister out of the house. Yet, her faithful servant only packs them away, in case she ever wanted to remember. All of that was hidden from Deana. In my opinion she is the deepest characher of all. Does anyone share that opinion?

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PostSat Nov 08, 2003 5:31 pm    

i wreckon she has a very un-explined past which couldve been looked deeper in to

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