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Commander VanPay · **Thu Mar 27, 2003 3:47 pm WAR**

In this topic all you will be is expes your true feelings about War weather they be good our bad post Songs that mean alot to you Like "Have You forgotten" and after you post that song tell why that song is so imporant to you. Make sure the song is war related.

chakotay1 · **Thu Mar 27, 2003 10:02 pm**

well i hate this war and the pres but i am 100% for the troops that are over their fighting

Commander VanPay · **Fri Mar 28, 2003 8:45 am**

Good job guys keep the replys coming.... Now tell me how this song makes you feel...

Have You Forgotten?
(Darryl Worley/Wynn Varble)

I hear people saying we don't need this war
I say there's some things worth fighting for
What about our freedom and this piece of ground
We didn't get to keep 'em by backing down
They say we don't realize the mess we're getting in
Before you start your preaching let me ask you this my friend

Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

They took all the footage off my T.V.
Said it's too disturbing for you and me
It'll just breed anger that's what the experts say
If it was up to me I'd show it everyday
Some say this country's just out looking for a fight
After 9/11 man I'd have to say that's right

Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

I've been there with the soldiers
Who've gone away to war
And you can bet that they remember
Just what they're fighting for

Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

Have you forgotten all the people killed?
Some went down like heros in that Pennsylvania field
Have you forgotten about our Pentagon?
All the loved ones that we lost and those left to carry on
Don't you tell me not to worry about bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

Have you forgotten?
Have you forgotten?

Good luck!

PicardsTrueLove · **Fri Mar 28, 2003 10:48 am**

Kylon · **Mon Apr 14, 2003 6:41 pm a**

War is great, I think we should have done what Patton wanted to do in the 40's. Take over the entire world, and setup democracies everywhere. Its a simple enough idea. If we can takoever ever tyrannist nation (except for China and other nuclear powers) and setup REAL democracies MORE POWER TO THE PRESIDENT!

I understand that nobody wants the United States to setup colonies, personally if we take them by force I agree. Its not cost effective to takeover foreign lands these days if your a democracy. Everybody gets mad and you have alot of protest.

But if we setup democracies we have more trading partners. The people in these democracies enjoy new found wealth and happiness. In a democracy if people want to say there country is rotten, they can.

If we don't setup democracies in these countries NOBODY ELSE WILL! Eventually these countries will obtain weapons of mass destruction and when they do it will be extremely expensive in lives, to battle them. If we kill them while they are weak, we will free the people, help the world, peace and prosperity for all.

If we stand by and do nothing, death and destruction will eventually be our fate.

Its common sense, kick'em while they are down so that they will never be a real threat to anybody.

Vortex · **Mon Apr 14, 2003 7:04 pm**

yeah right avoid china.......

We'll take the world by force, unless of course, there is the slightest possibillity of personal harm.....

Democracy may work in the US. Yeah more power to the president you say. Ok, so then too the US will become a dictatoriat. YAY!!!!!

The cure may be worse then the original problem.

Commander VanPay · **Mon Jun 09, 2003 5:09 pm**

Well I can't say im happy about the war, but right know we don't have to worry that much about it because the war is almost over with. Aberation Iraq Freedom is the main reason why we don't have to worry about war today, I'm thank all of the men and women who put their lives on the line to make Aberation Iraq Freedom, and give us the power to do what we are doing today wither it is going to school, singing, wrestling our whatever you are doing. THANK YOU! AND GOD BLESS!

Kyle Reese · **Mon Jun 09, 2003 8:58 pm**

Does anyone else but me think that another war is gonna start considering all of these terrorist attacks?

Arellia · **Tue Jun 10, 2003 12:17 am**

I hate wars as much as the next person, but I think this was was needed. Those people (some of them, at any rate) killed thousands-and what would you have us do? Say:

"Oh, you did that? Shame on you! But, y'know, we don't like conflict, so knock it off and play nice!"

No way! These people shouldn't be given the chance to kill that many again. And the innocent people of Iraq have been under dictatorship for many, many years. They deserve their country back, and we are helping them get it. Everyone deserves the right to have what the great free countries have, and to get it, sometimes we must use conflict to obtain it.

The people who fought were valiant and courageous, and they did it for a great cause.

Commander VanPay · **Tue Jun 10, 2003 4:29 pm**

STV FAN · **Sat Jul 05, 2003 2:58 am**

I dont know what in the world kylon is talking about. We have no reason under the sun to just burst in and take over countries that did nothing do harm us, unlike Iraq, who did a lot to harm us. And what did he say about liking war! YOU LIKE IT WHEN FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE DIE!!!!!!

SAYING 2+2 is 900 WOULD BE MORE SENSEABLE

Theresa · **Sat Jul 05, 2003 12:49 pm**

^While I don't agree with Kylon either, you need to control yourself. Attack the issue, not the person.

LightningBoy · **Mon Jul 07, 2003 12:08 am**

War is hell, but life without it is worse yet.

Voyager` · **Tue Aug 05, 2003 12:19 am**

war's like it or not are and will be fought just imagine if everyone country decided that no matter what they would never fight in a war or anything no matter what but 1
the 1 that would could ezily rule the world world peace may be a great thought but the chances of it happeneding anytime soon is so unlikely u might as well forget about it of course maybe we could have a thing going like in the movie equillerbrium where it is illegal to have feelings or feel at all... yea they have world peace they have no wars and no feelings of greed jealousy or hate in there so called great society yet for those things they had to give up the feelings of joy happiness and love i mean really we are human and we will never all have the same ideas or morals so as long as humans live there will be wars i personally dont like wars but i also belive they have to be so i guess u can say i support war and i despise the ppl in america during the vietnam war who would throw bags of urine and crap and just bout anything at out soldiers when they came home because they were so against the war that some started blameing the soldiers when they are just doing there job and its not their fault that there is a war that just makes me sick