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Mr. Pike Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 70
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Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:59 am Let the Klingon/Federation war begin already!!!! |
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Original conversation excerpt taken from: Lets Move On! Let the Enterprise Go Already!!!
The fact of the matter is Roman is right. Enterprise in its current form just repeats itself but you�re wrong on one point Roman BRAGGA'S GOT TO GO!!
THAT GUY HAS NO GUTS!!! Case in point didn't the Federation / Klingon war start due to a first contact communications blunder? How can that happen now that they�ve already made first contact? Gutless wrighting provides for a gutless show. And this show has no bloody guts!!!
What we need is for all hell to break lose on that show bring on the war!!! Whack out those members of the cast who want to leave let's kill off Archer in the most messed up way possible and let�s have the Klingons do it so that the war can begin. Let�s have the federation take some heavy losses!!! Give birth to section 31!!! Also: Have the Andorians attack the planet Volcan!!Their a little too smug for their own good lets make the war complicated hard fought and even harder won!!! Hell we can take it.
Last edited by Mr. Pike on Tue Jun 24, 2003 1:35 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Lindley Vice Admiral
Joined: 18 Sep 2001 Posts: 6194 Location: Fairfax, VA
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Tue Jun 24, 2003 10:29 am |
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Of course, none of that would happen in Enterprise. The show's written too safely.
Besides, I don't care so much about fighting Klingons. That arc is actually going better than I expected.
Its the darned Romulans who should be emerging as a new threat right about now.
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Mr. Pike Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 70
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Tue Jun 24, 2003 11:15 am |
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The Romulan / Klingon war breaks out after the Klingon / Federation war.
Besides the discussion isn't about weather or not you care about fighting the Klingons it's about gutless writing and Federation history. Now if you'd have expressed interest in the temporal cold war breaking out before the Federation / Klingon war I could understand that because the Temporal Cold War is new information.
Now don't get me wrong I'm uncertain about this but the Romulans shouldn't even be in the picture yet. We don't even find out about the Romulan / Vulcan relationship until Spock explains it to Kirk in the original series.
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Ronevick The King
Joined: 23 May 2003 Posts: 11428 Location: (609), New Jersey
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Tue Jun 24, 2003 11:27 am |
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i think it should start but not know because right now the Romulan war is just starting to kick in i think so the klingon part should be in like you know the last season or something mixed in with the Romulan war that will still be there
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Mr. Pike Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 70
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Tue Jun 24, 2003 11:59 am |
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Oh well what can I say? No one cares about continuity this is probably the reason why Bragga gets away with so much.
Last season? The Federation / Klingon war lasts for over 50 years!!
Last edited by Mr. Pike on Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:00 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Pah-Wraith Sheikh
Joined: 30 Nov 2001 Posts: 6012 Location: Londonistan.
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Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:20 pm |
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War with the Klingons? Yeah Sure I guess so after all it was always Mentioned in TOS. I'd personally rather see the Founding of the UFP United Federation of Planets first
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Mr. Pike Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 70
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Tue Jun 24, 2003 1:55 pm |
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Excellent!!! Pah-Wraith I stand corrected. You are right in the fact that the Federation was created before the Klingon / Federation war.
(I ALMOST WROTE SCRULL / KREE WAR. HAH!)
Nonetheless change is needed perhaps a war can breakout which leads to the creation of the Federation.
The Vulcan / Andorian war perhaps?
WAR!!WAR!!WAR!! Mr. Pike advocates WAR!!!KILL!!CRUSH!!!MAIM!!!DESTROY!!!
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Lindley Vice Admiral
Joined: 18 Sep 2001 Posts: 6194 Location: Fairfax, VA
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Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:00 pm |
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The Federation was founded as a result of the Earth/Romulan war, which I believe is accepted to have taken place in the late 2150s. However, Spock said it was fought with "Primitive atomic weapons".
Unless Enterprise is equipped with some nuclear torpedoes soon, I don't see that happening. They should have retrofitted nukes rather than "Photonic" torps in "The Expanse".
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Mr. Pike Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 70
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Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:08 pm |
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WOW this would be fantastic if it wasn't for the fact that I'm starting to look, (how shall I say?) not so bright. Atomics? Geeeezzz I have to do some research.
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The Delta Flyer Commodore
Joined: 08 Apr 2002 Posts: 2163 Location: East Yorkshire
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Tue Jun 24, 2003 3:47 pm |
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Was it in First Contact that first contact with the Klingons was described as being "disasterous"...from their first contact in Broken Bow, I wouldn't say it was disasterous...a farmer shot a Klingon but then they took him home again and all was well (for a while at least)...I wouldn't call that disasterous...perhaps a bit inconsiderate but not disasterous
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Jeff Miller Fleet Admiral
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 23947 Location: Mental Ward for the Mentaly Unstable 6th floor, Saint John's 1615 Delaware Longview Washington 98632
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 9:14 pm |
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I have 10 dollars on the federation lol j/k
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sabertooth1217 UPN Boycotter
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 11484 Location: Texas
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 9:15 pm |
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make that 15
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Jeff Miller Fleet Admiral
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 23947 Location: Mental Ward for the Mentaly Unstable 6th floor, Saint John's 1615 Delaware Longview Washington 98632
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 9:17 pm |
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they should just let the federation, romulans and klingons just duke it out all at once like a battle royal lol
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sabertooth1217 UPN Boycotter
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 11484 Location: Texas
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 9:24 pm |
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wwf smackdown at madison square garden lol
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Interstelar_Concordium_CM Captain
Joined: 01 Mar 2003 Posts: 603 Location: A galaxy far far away....
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 9:28 pm |
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WWE
but i agree that it would be a great thing to see...a human punching a romulan strait in his greenblooded head
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sabertooth1217 UPN Boycotter
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 11484 Location: Texas
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 9:31 pm |
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wwf u get the f out lol i loved that slogan
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eclipse8472 Captain
Joined: 02 Apr 2002 Posts: 863 Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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Thu Jun 26, 2003 9:17 pm |
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^ same here
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sabertooth1217 UPN Boycotter
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 11484 Location: Texas
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Fri Jun 27, 2003 11:35 am |
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i thought some one would
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fetuss78 Ensign
Joined: 22 May 2002 Posts: 45
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Sat Aug 02, 2003 2:18 pm |
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I agree, let the war(s) begin, the original trek, the klingons were considered to be savages. so far they have been passive if you ask me.
they appear to be weak, not cunning, not great warriors, not to sound groos, but dont klingons sometimes say something along the lines like, i will eat his still beating heart!! we need to see the klingons more warlike and aggressive, we should be hearing stories of how they are expanding the empire/conquering worlds.
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Capt.Rene D'Hondt Lieutenant
Joined: 22 Jul 2003 Posts: 182 Location: Ontario,Canada
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Sat Aug 02, 2003 4:47 pm |
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The Klingon-Fed war wont start for awhile they have to go through the Romulan-Fed war first.
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captain_muller0770 Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 23 Aug 2003 Posts: 96 Location: USS Sovereign(bridge)
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Sun Aug 24, 2003 7:00 am |
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that would be a great episode to see
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