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Praetor
The Architek
Joined: 25 Jul 2001
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lol i know alot of Dutch people, lol after austin powers: goldmember, i made there life hell lol it's all in good fun, they're great!
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Kyre
Commodore
Joined: 15 Mar 2002
Posts: 1263
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| Tue Jun 17, 2003 8:16 pm |
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| Greg87 wrote: | | Maquis74656 wrote: | We want to be rude, do we?
It's not the Americans fault you have no pride in who you are.
And, btw, we DO have shows that make fun of our government. Whether you like it or not, the U.S. IS a free nation. |
AWH you getting pissy? America basically maybe free But the fact of the matter is, WE have a royal family you don't
WE have the Nhs you don't and end up paying a fortune on medical expensise!!!
and lastly your un happy as your not in the commowealth!!! ever since you signed your "declaration of independence" the majority of you have sticks up yor ass! ESPECIALLY YOU! |
Gold, pure gold. 
Oh and HIGNFY went downhill as soon as Angus left.
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crusherjaneway
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 14 Jun 2003
Posts: 109
Location: PA
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| Tue Jun 17, 2003 9:16 pm would u shut the *beep* up? |
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okay people. I'm from the good ol' US and I must say, I agree that Americans have butted into every world affair since WWII, and that we are conservative compared to Europe, but would you stop the attacks? It's bad enough that other countries laughed when 9-11 happened. I'm not even from NY and I cried. It was a horrible event that only an American would completely understand. We are a world that cannot advance until we all unite. You people claim to be Trek fans, but you do not even adhere to the most applied principle of it: UNITY.
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Kyre
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| Wed Jun 18, 2003 8:51 am Re: would u shut the *beep* up? |
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| crusherjaneway wrote: | | okay people. I'm from the good ol' US and I must say, I agree that Americans have butted into every world affair since WWII, and that we are conservative compared to Europe, but would you stop the attacks? It's bad enough that other countries laughed when 9-11 happened. I'm not even from NY and I cried. It was a horrible event that only an American would completely understand. We are a world that cannot advance until we all unite. You people claim to be Trek fans, but you do not even adhere to the most applied principle of it: UNITY. |
I think I understood it pretty well. Terrorists from the Middle East are waging a holy war against the people they hate most. America, being the worldwide police force that it is topped their list. <---my opinion only of course. 
Obviously being from the UK I wasn't nearly as mentally affected by it, but I don't think not being American means you can't understand why it was done.
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Captain Dappet
Forum Revolutionist
Joined: 06 Feb 2002
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Location: On my supersonic rocket ship.
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| Wed Jun 18, 2003 8:59 am Re: would u shut the *beep* up? |
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| crusherjaneway wrote: | | okay people. I'm from the good ol' US and I must say, I agree that Americans have butted into every world affair since WWII, and that we are conservative compared to Europe, but would you stop the attacks? It's bad enough that other countries laughed when 9-11 happened. I'm not even from NY and I cried. It was a horrible event that only an American would completely understand. We are a world that cannot advance until we all unite. You people claim to be Trek fans, but you do not even adhere to the most applied principle of it: UNITY. |
Unity is my goal. Guys and girls that know that I attacked America in the past should know that I do not do that anymore. I discuss it peacefully instead.
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Los
Commodore
Joined: 07 Jun 2002
Posts: 1336
Location: Oklahoma fa sho!
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| Wed Jun 18, 2003 10:20 am Re: would u shut the *beep* up? |
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| crusherjaneway wrote: | | okay people. I'm from the good ol' US and I must say, I agree that Americans have butted into every world affair since WWII, and that we are conservative compared to Europe, but would you stop the attacks? It's bad enough that other countries laughed when 9-11 happened. I'm not even from NY and I cried. It was a horrible event that only an American would completely understand. We are a world that cannot advance until we all unite. You people claim to be Trek fans, but you do not even adhere to the most applied principle of it: UNITY. |
Butted? Are you nuts? Some affairs we stayed out of and get bitched at for not doing anything. Don't you see? The double headed dragon is near.
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Theresa
Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001
Posts: 27256
Location: United States of America
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| Wed Jun 18, 2003 11:31 am |
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As much as it kills me to do so, I have to agree with Los. Peace is the perfect answer, but we are human, and therefore not perfect. Hopefully, though, it is an attainable goal. (peace)
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Los
Commodore
Joined: 07 Jun 2002
Posts: 1336
Location: Oklahoma fa sho!
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| Wed Jun 18, 2003 12:31 pm |
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| Maquis74656 wrote: | | As much as it kills me to do so, I have to agree with Los. Peace is the perfect answer, but we are human, and therefore not perfect. Hopefully, though, it is an attainable goal. (peace) |
You lie! You love agreeing with me!
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Qgirl
Captain
Joined: 08 Jun 2003
Posts: 554
Location: Florida
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| Wed Jun 18, 2003 2:48 pm Re: would u shut the *beep* up? |
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| Los wrote: | | Butted? Are you nuts? Some affairs we stayed out of and get *beep* at for not doing anything. Don't you see? The double headed dragon is near. |
I agree, that is so true! That has happened many times, just not on such a grand scale as World Wars.
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crusherjaneway
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 14 Jun 2003
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| Wed Jun 18, 2003 7:10 pm ... |
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I'd like to note that's because we've stepped in far too many times. It's just like the dumbest kid in class asking the smartest kid in class for their homework...if the smartest kid says no, the dumbest kid trash talks the smartest kid.
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crusherjaneway
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
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| Wed Jun 18, 2003 7:58 pm also |
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Also, someone not from the US wouldn't understand the emotional pain as much. It was a blow to our country, and admittedly, our pride.
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Theresa
Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001
Posts: 27256
Location: United States of America
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| Wed Jun 18, 2003 9:19 pm Re: ... |
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| crusherjaneway wrote: | | I'd like to note that's because we've stepped in far too many times. It's just like the dumbest kid in class asking the smartest kid in class for their homework...if the smartest kid says no, the dumbest kid trash talks the smartest kid. |
*insert loud obnoxious buzzer noise here* PLEASE TRY AGAIN.
The US, as one of the wealthiest nations, is constantly asked for money, troops, weapons etc... We demand conditions. Alot of people don't like that. North Korea, you want food and energy? FEED YOUR PEOPLE TOO! See how that works? It's like we're a dog on a leash, as long as we do what we're told, we'll get patted on the head, "Good little Americans". Show some sign that we're thinking for ourselves, and get slapped down.
Palestine wants us to back away and leave Israel alone. Should we? We've pledged to help Israel, but someone else wants us to go now. Not only Palestine, but most of the Arab world. And they've even said that they'd like the US alot better if we did. Hmmm......
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Los
Commodore
Joined: 07 Jun 2002
Posts: 1336
Location: Oklahoma fa sho!
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| Wed Jun 18, 2003 10:36 pm Re: ... |
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| Maquis74656 wrote: | | crusherjaneway wrote: | | I'd like to note that's because we've stepped in far too many times. It's just like the dumbest kid in class asking the smartest kid in class for their homework...if the smartest kid says no, the dumbest kid trash talks the smartest kid. |
*insert loud obnoxious buzzer noise here* PLEASE TRY AGAIN.
The US, as one of the wealthiest nations, is constantly asked for money, troops, weapons etc... We demand conditions. Alot of people don't like that. North Korea, you want food and energy? FEED YOUR PEOPLE TOO! See how that works? It's like we're a dog on a leash, as long as we do what we're told, we'll get patted on the head, "Good little Americans". Show some sign that we're thinking for ourselves, and get slapped down.
Palestine wants us to back away and leave Israel alone. Should we? We've pledged to help Israel, but someone else wants us to go now. Not only Palestine, but most of the Arab world. And they've even said that they'd like the US alot better if we did. Hmmm...... |
The Palestinian struggle is that of a religious one. Because Israel is not Islamic, its naturally ok for them to say "Hey, kick out the Israelis!" Why not? Every other Arab nation did to the Palestinians. If they're so concerned with their well being, why don't places like Saudi Arabia or Syria take them in?
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STV FAN
Ensign
Joined: 24 Dec 2002
Posts: 50
Location: Alpha Quadrant,Milky Way,Earth,North America,USA,Indiana,Bloomington
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| Maquis74656 wrote: | | Greg87 wrote: | | Well obviuosly she doesn't, why should we stand down and let her say what she wants to say, i have respect for americans, i think there great, it's just people like her that tick me right off!! |
Isn't that so sad? I am THANKFUL we have no royal family. Yeah, let me pay a figurehead 3 million a year for doing nothing.
Medical expenses? Who cares? If we want to debate the pros and cons of Americans and Brits, I'm sure I could come up w/ quite a list. But I won't, because I have several British friends, and they don't have a superiority complex.
Not in the commonwealth...... makes me unhappy..... would you care to tell me how?
Apparently my countries "Decleration of Independence" really bothers you. Was it that your superior forces were WHIPPED by farmers and bankers? If so, GET OVER IT.
As for a stick up my ass...... Oh please...
People like me? You mean ones that think for themselves? As a general rule, I like England. But people like you, who live in the past....... *sigh, it's so sad, really.
AND NEVER ONCE DID I SAY I HAD NO RESPECT FOR OTHER COUNTRIES. I said that it's not my fault if YOU don't have pride in YOUR country. And buddy, IT ISN'T. |
You told me to attack the issue not the person although i seriously dissagree w/ greg87(who has a stick up his ass  ) you should follow the rules you set for other people! 
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STV FAN
Ensign
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Posts: 50
Location: Alpha Quadrant,Milky Way,Earth,North America,USA,Indiana,Bloomington
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| Mon Jul 07, 2003 1:16 am |
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I'll admit that when I wrote that I lost my temper. I apolgize to Maquis74656. 
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Saoirse_Granger
Lieutenant
Joined: 03 Jan 2003
Posts: 198
Location: Button Moon
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| Mon Jul 07, 2003 3:39 am |
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| Pah-Wraith wrote: | | Greg87 wrote: | IM sorry i know i kinda started all of this off but the topic i was getting peeved about is the fact that because "Have u got news for you" a british show. Maquis just because the show was British, decieded that she would "Think nothing of it". I found that to be big-headed as if she thought Britain to be less important than America
Now to Maquis im sorry to of started this ANTI-AMERICAN air on the forum, and im sorry for my offence to you, but that was my thoughts.
Greg |
"Have I got news for you" that show just became screwed up after the Host Angus Deaton was revealed as Excuse My Language a Pervert! and got Fired, ever since they have earned a meager living from making Political jokes out of Home Videos 
BTW I thought you were from Oz Greg???
On a different note, I bought this ace Iraqi Most wanted deck of Cards the other Day...anyone else have it? it's pretty cool aside from Comical Ali isn't in the set  |
I'm not sure if they were right to fire Deayton. Was the show not making fun of people with intentions supposedly like his own? Did they not make jokes about those sort of things? Yes, it wouldn't have been good for the BBC's reputation or anything, but has anyone noticed that most presenters that get shot off the BBC move to ITV or 5? Like Richard Bacon, he was on Blue Peter (OMG did I really watch that???) and he took drugs, and then he moved to doing Big Breakfast or something.
HIGNFY has been reasonable since he left, anyone see the one with Bruce Forsyth and the "Play Your Iraqui Cards Right"? That was brilliant. As for the real verions, personally I wouldn't buy them, I find that just a little bit sad/disturbing.
Actually, Greg87, it was me who started this off. I tried to be too big for my boots and try to be sarcastic about my view on Americans, and by doing that I ended up with most of the boards on my (and Maquis'  ) back.
So, we could shake and make up, maybe? Or is this petty argument going to rage on? Personally I think we're all being a bit silly, there's so much else happening in the world, and all we can do is argue about...nationality. Yes, it's what started lots of wars, but if we can make a start by respecting each other for who they are, maybe we can begin to change the world to do that, too.
P.S I really shouldn't be talking about politics, I'm known as the small girl with the big voice, because I tend to jump into politics etc. with very much the wrong end of the stick, and end up in a sticky mess. Surely you were all like that at the age of 12? No?
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Theresa
Lux Mihi Deus
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Location: United States of America
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| Mon Jul 07, 2003 8:27 am |
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| STV FAN wrote: |
You told me to attack the issue not the person although i seriously dissagree w/ greg87(who has a stick up his ass ) you should follow the rules you set for other people! |
Topic title: wanna argue? do it here
Here, people can argue. And intelligent, reasonable flaming is allowed. I of course will delete the obnoxious, irrelevant posting.
Besides, dear, if you've read the topic, you'd know that I'd responded to a direct attack, and that Greg and I had already talked and were cool.
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Anti-crombie1
Dr. Greenthumb
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| Mon Jul 07, 2003 8:50 pm |
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wow, i've only read the first five or so posts to this topic, and I can already tell that most of you here are busy watching dragon ball Z and jacking off to cartoon *beep*
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Kyle Reese
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Joined: 21 Apr 2003
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Location: The United States of America
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| Tue Jul 08, 2003 3:31 am |
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i just now read every post in this topic and started to boil cause of the insults to the US but calmed down later, so whatcha guys talking about now
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Theresa
Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001
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Location: United States of America
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| Tue Jul 08, 2003 8:55 am |
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| Valathous wrote: | America's system of Government is what started their Civil war..... the States had more power than the Capital...... while Canada gives most of its power to the Capital and less to the Provinces (equivilant of States)
we've never had a Civil war...... so Canada's is better |
I'd immigrate somewhere else if that every happened.
BTW, the Canada wasn't colonized in the same manner as the US was. They sent the "undesirables" here, and then expected them to obey.... Rather stupid if you ask me, since they were unable to obey back in England.
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Captain Dappet
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| Fri Jul 11, 2003 2:57 pm |
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I thought people moved to the U.S 'cause they thought that they'd have a much better life there and the undesireables were sent to Australia? 
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Los
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Posts: 1336
Location: Oklahoma fa sho!
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| Fri Jul 11, 2003 6:43 pm |
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I need a chick to hold me please.
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Theresa
Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001
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Location: United States of America
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| Sat Jul 12, 2003 9:29 am |
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^Shut up Los,
Cappy D, Columbus' crew was mostly inmates. Australia, I think, was set up to be like a penal colony.
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Jeff Miller
Fleet Admiral
Joined: 22 Nov 2001
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Location: Mental Ward for the Mentaly Unstable 6th floor, Saint John's 1615 Delaware Longview Washington 98632
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| Sat Jul 12, 2003 9:49 am |
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hmm T's a living book lol j/k
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Captain Dappet
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| Sat Jul 12, 2003 7:25 pm |
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| Maquis74656 wrote: | ^Shut up Los,
Cappy D, Columbus' crew was mostly inmates. Australia, I think, was set up to be like a penal colony. |
Yes, but Columbus was an explorer, not settler. True, some(or many) settled in North/South America(Mexico, U.S.A etc.), but the real big immigration didnt really start until the end of the 18th century and through the 19th and some of the beginning of the 20th century.
Am I correct? Just checking.
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