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Lt.BirdGod Captain
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 619 Location: Sol System, 3rd planet from the Sun
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Sat May 10, 2003 10:38 am An easy way to defeat the borg (not that there truly is one) |
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It's so obvious, how would I have not thought of it before! As I was talking on the Enterprise section of the forums, I mentioned that the borg could have conquered any planet not using nuclear technology. Well, If a planet was using nuclear technology, they could, litteraly, drop a nuclear device on marching drones! If the blast didn't kill em, the radiation from the device sure will!
Or even better, why not use the radioactive materials, and convert them into some sort of weapon, that would shoot the particles at a heavy dose. Killing off the humanoid cells, thus the machine cannot work.
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PrankishSmart Rear Admiral
Joined: 29 Apr 2002 Posts: 4779 Location: Hobart, Australia.
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Sat May 10, 2003 11:33 am |
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That might work, in a controlled 'dropping'. Remember in first contact, how they were going to puncture one of the coolant tanks to kill the organic parts of the borg in engineering. Well, I think starfleet should make some sort of anti borg gun which fires a controlled spray of this coolant stuff to nuteralize unwanted visitors. Think of it as a fly spray
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Los Commodore
Joined: 07 Jun 2002 Posts: 1336 Location: Oklahoma fa sho!
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Sat May 10, 2003 1:35 pm |
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Really big shields would stop a nuke blast.
See "Firestorm" in TNG.
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Lt.BirdGod Captain
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 619 Location: Sol System, 3rd planet from the Sun
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Sat May 10, 2003 5:45 pm |
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Is Firestorm the one where Cappy Picard gets him a girlfriend, but then she transfers off the Enterprise? If so, then still, fire != nuclear energy.
(for those who do not know coding, what I just said was Fire Does Not Equal Nuclear energy)
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ARMS Lieutenant
Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 157 Location: Wirral, UK
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Sat May 17, 2003 8:08 pm |
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I seem to recall a voy ep which showed 7 (a former drone) having extreme resistence to normaly lethal radiation
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lennier1 Ensign, Junior Grade
Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 30 Location: Bavaria, Germany
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Tue May 20, 2003 7:10 am |
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In one VOY episode they even reactivated a drone which died years ago! Acid is the only way to get rid of this illness called Borg!
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thegame Captain
Joined: 11 Sep 2002 Posts: 752 Location: Buffalo, New York
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Wed May 21, 2003 12:01 am |
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Or fly a Galaxy class ship into the attacking cube.
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PrankishSmart Rear Admiral
Joined: 29 Apr 2002 Posts: 4779 Location: Hobart, Australia.
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Wed May 21, 2003 12:18 am |
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Fly a Galaxy class ship into the attacking cube at warp 9.
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lennier1 Ensign, Junior Grade
Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 30 Location: Bavaria, Germany
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Wed May 21, 2003 6:09 am |
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In one TNG episode they mentioned that a cube can stay at active status even if over two thirds of the ship are destroyed. So this would only slow them down but after repair time they wouldn�t care about it anymore.
To destroy or at least disable a cube you would have to destroy the "Vinculum" which works as a hub for the Hive system. After deactivating �t you would also have to destroy the ship�s incarnation of "her Majesty".
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Lt.BirdGod Captain
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 619 Location: Sol System, 3rd planet from the Sun
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Wed May 21, 2003 2:57 pm |
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An interesting point Lennier1, but, we are dealing with two different time periods here. In Best Of Both Worlds, there couldn't have been a Vinicululm, or at least the version that we have seen in Voyager. Borg are ordered to self-destruct when their ship is destroyed, or when they're critically injured/dead. Captain Picard was not killed.
The same deal goes with Voyager. 7 of 9 was not killed when her Cube was destroyed, nor were the Drones that beamed over. But then again, they were probably ordered to do so.
Also a paradox...
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Link Commodore
Joined: 07 Jun 2003 Posts: 1258 Location: Alberta, Canada
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Sun Jun 15, 2003 6:25 pm |
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Borg can only adapt to energy weapons.
Just get a machine gun.
*captain shouts to crew "AK-47's FOR EVERYONE!!!!!"*
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Interstelar_Concordium_CM Captain
Joined: 01 Mar 2003 Posts: 603 Location: A galaxy far far away....
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Sun Jun 15, 2003 7:02 pm |
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Quote: | Or even better, why not use the radioactive materials, and convert them into some sort of weapon, that would shoot the particles at a heavy dose. Killing off the humanoid cells, thus the machine cannot work. |
There is a weapon that uses a type of radiation called the Infinity Modulator, i think
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Kyle Reese Cadet Gunnery Sergeant
Joined: 21 Apr 2003 Posts: 5672 Location: The United States of America
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Sun Jun 15, 2003 11:34 pm |
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ally yourself with species 8472, that's an easy way, to be protected at least
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Los Commodore
Joined: 07 Jun 2002 Posts: 1336 Location: Oklahoma fa sho!
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Sun Jun 15, 2003 11:36 pm |
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Just an EMP blast would do the trick, assuming that they don't have the shielding on. But the nuclear blast should wipe anything out in a 10 mile radius. I don't think the radiation would do much good because of the nanoprobes. One can really only take a stab in the dark as to how the nanoprobes would work out in that situation.
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Interstelar_Concordium_CM Captain
Joined: 01 Mar 2003 Posts: 603 Location: A galaxy far far away....
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Mon Jun 16, 2003 6:09 am |
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this isnt the matrix pal, that wouldnt do nething to the borg with their shielding
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Lt.BirdGod Captain
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 619 Location: Sol System, 3rd planet from the Sun
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Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:05 pm |
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EMP probably would work, but you can't use it on a starship.
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Los Commodore
Joined: 07 Jun 2002 Posts: 1336 Location: Oklahoma fa sho!
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Tue Jun 17, 2003 1:30 am |
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Lt.BirdGod wrote: | EMP probably would work, but you can't use it on a starship. |
Too many redundant systems.
Yeah, a blast would take them out but humans can't survive gamma radiations very long. And the fallout would be hell to pay.
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stv12 Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 16 May 2003 Posts: 337
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Tue Jun 17, 2003 3:25 am |
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What's EMP? Why not just stab them or hit them over the head with a sledge hammer
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lennier1 Ensign, Junior Grade
Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 30 Location: Bavaria, Germany
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Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:05 am |
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EMP = electromagnetic pulse
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PrankishSmart Rear Admiral
Joined: 29 Apr 2002 Posts: 4779 Location: Hobart, Australia.
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Tue Jun 17, 2003 8:32 am |
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I doubt very much that a EMP would work against the borg, shields or no shields.
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Lt.BirdGod Captain
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 619 Location: Sol System, 3rd planet from the Sun
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Tue Jun 17, 2003 10:40 pm |
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Well, the emp could fry the circuitry in the nanoprobes, preventing repair on the drone...
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Los Commodore
Joined: 07 Jun 2002 Posts: 1336 Location: Oklahoma fa sho!
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Tue Jun 17, 2003 11:37 pm |
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Lt.BirdGod wrote: | Well, the emp could fry the circuitry in the nanoprobes, preventing repair on the drone... |
Assuming that there is no in place system that copes with short term circuit damage.
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Jeff Miller Fleet Admiral
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 23947 Location: Mental Ward for the Mentaly Unstable 6th floor, Saint John's 1615 Delaware Longview Washington 98632
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Wed Jun 18, 2003 1:22 am |
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how about a Imod from Elite Force
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lennier1 Ensign, Junior Grade
Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 30 Location: Bavaria, Germany
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Wed Jun 18, 2003 6:02 am |
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Interstelar_Concordium_CM wrote: | ...
There is a weapon that uses a type of radiation called the Infinity Modulator, i think |
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Lt.BirdGod Captain
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 619 Location: Sol System, 3rd planet from the Sun
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Sat Jun 21, 2003 8:24 pm |
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That is theoretically possible, I mean, the borg take damage to high frequency discharges, so why not have a .1 increase switch, and when it is required, be able to change it to .01, .001, etc. etc.
But do keep in mind, nothing is infinite, theoretically the settings could be, but eventually it would have to run out. Or could it? I dunno.
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