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Gonavy17th
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PostSun Jan 13, 2002 12:00 am    

I was never to sure what the chain of command was on the enterprise. To this date, I have percieved it to be the following:
1 - Captain Picard.
2 - Commander Riker
3 - Lt. Commander Data
4 - Lt. Commander Laforge.
5 - Lt. Worf.
Where does the doctor (being a commander) fit into the command and where does the counseler fit in?


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PostSun Jan 13, 2002 10:51 am    

Beverly and Deanna both have achieved the rank of commander, but, since their major field is medical, they are not in the chain of command.

They are only introduced into the command structure when there is an emergency (Descent) when the command crew is missing, or incapacitated.



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PostSun Jan 13, 2002 1:05 pm    

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On 2002-01-13 09:51, Lt.BirdGod wrote:
Beverly and Deanna both have achieved the rank of commander, but, since their major field is medical, they are not in the chain of command.

They are only introduced into the command structure when there is an emergency (Descent) when the command crew is missing, or incapacitated.



NOT TRUE!!

Beverley and Deanna both take shifts in command of the Enterprise. They both took more active roles in the running of the ship after Beverly got a taste for it when commanding in "Descent" and Troi got a taste for it after commanding in "Disaster".

Do you remember "Thine Own Self"? Beverly is in command of the ship when Deanna comes back from a class reunion, feeling a little bit like an underachiever compared to all her classmates who are captains/commanders. During the episode Troi takes the bridge officers test so that she can have shifts in command as well.

Near the end of the episode when Data is reactivated she even says "If you'll all excuse me. I have the bridge this shift" and then leaves sickbay.



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PostTue Jan 15, 2002 12:10 am    

There was an early episode, where they all get sick, and Data is the only one who can run the ship. You get to clearly see the chain of command in that one, although I don't remember exactly what it is.

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PostThu Jan 17, 2002 5:05 pm    

Quote:

On 2002-01-13 12:05, subject_117 wrote:
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On 2002-01-13 09:51, Lt.BirdGod wrote:
Beverly and Deanna both have achieved the rank of commander, but, since their major field is medical, they are not in the chain of command.

They are only introduced into the command structure when there is an emergency (Descent) when the command crew is missing, or incapacitated.



NOT TRUE!!

Beverley and Deanna both take shifts in command of the Enterprise. They both took more active roles in the running of the ship after Beverly got a taste for it when commanding in "Descent" and Troi got a taste for it after commanding in "Disaster".

Do you remember "Thine Own Self"? Beverly is in command of the ship when Deanna comes back from a class reunion, feeling a little bit like an underachiever compared to all her classmates who are captains/commanders. During the episode Troi takes the bridge officers test so that she can have shifts in command as well.

Near the end of the episode when Data is reactivated she even says "If you'll all excuse me. I have the bridge this shift" and then leaves sickbay.



But Dr. Pulasky had the rank of commander, and yet she was not in command of the bridge duty.

Of Course Commander Data can be in charge. He has the rank of Lt. Commander, and second in command. (Captain Picard is the commander, riker is "number one", and data is number two)

LaForge and Worf have the ability to run the ship, and Worf did run the Saucer Section during "Encounter At Farpoint", and I believe Geordi did so at one point.

So, overall, Riker has the job of picking the commander of the Enterprise during what times, and I guess that they are not major parts of the command chains.

Beverly and Troi are not at all the meetings, unless it involves them!!

BTW, thanks to subject_117 for pointing out those instances.


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PostSun Jan 20, 2002 12:33 am    

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On 2002-01-12 23:00, Gonavy17th wrote:
I was never to sure what the chain of command was on the enterprise. To this date, I have percieved it to be the following:
1 - Captain Picard.
2 - Commander Riker
3 - Lt. Commander Data
4 - Lt. Commander Laforge.
5 - Lt. Worf.
Where does the doctor (being a commander) fit into the command and where does the counseler fit in?


Even though Geordi has more rank, Worf is above him in the chain of command (probably because Worf is on the bridge always and Geordi isnt)

Except in the first season where Geordi is a helmsman...


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Dr. Jetrel
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PostSun Feb 03, 2002 3:54 pm    

And where does Wesley Crusher come in?

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PostSun Feb 03, 2002 4:33 pm    

Wesley doesn't get much weight to throw around...I think he would actually be under Worf, just because everyone else needs to be at their stations (like Troi and Crusher)


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PostMon Feb 04, 2002 3:14 pm    

wesley crusher is FAR below Worf...



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PostWed Feb 06, 2002 4:52 am    

Quote:

On 2002-01-12 23:00, Gonavy17th wrote:
I was never to sure what the chain of command was on the enterprise. To this date, I have percieved it to be the following:
1 - Captain Picard.
2 - Commander Riker
3 - Lt. Commander Data
4 - Lt. Commander Laforge.
5 - Lt. Worf.
Where does the doctor (being a commander) fit into the command and where does the counseler fit in?




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PostSun May 05, 2002 9:44 pm    

Yes westly Crusher is far down the line, and as you pick apart the command structure you may note that not everything has been thought about its a show

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PostTue May 07, 2002 9:44 am    

Wesliey gave up his commsion to the federation to travle with the travler

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PostTue May 07, 2002 1:19 pm    

Actually after Dr. Crusher and Counselor Troi became senior Bridge officers, the chain of command would go something like this:

1.Picard
2.Riker
3.Data
4.Crusher
5.Troi
6.La Forge
7.Worf

At least for the run of TNG (as based on rank, position and experience) . However, after Worf left the show, he commanded the Defiant when Sisko wasn't aboard, therefore during the movies he has been in, he would come after Data. Though his rank is lower (at least to Troi and Crusher) his experience commanding a ship would be higher and therefore he would have the bridge.

It is highly unlikely that either La Forge or Worf would have commanded the bridge under any battle during the run of TNG. They are both experts in their fields and would be required at their main posts primarily.


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PostTue May 07, 2002 1:20 pm    

BTW, just about everyone but the plasma conduit scrubbers would have to die or be rendered unconscious before Wesley Crusher would have been in command.

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PostTue May 07, 2002 11:12 pm    




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PostThu Mar 06, 2003 9:46 pm    

the councler(being a camander) is right below jordy and the doctor is right below worf

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PostThu Jun 05, 2003 8:47 am    

I dunno if crusher and troi should drive the ship remember what happend in genorations troi was in the command seat when they started to get shot at


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PostThu Jun 05, 2003 12:31 pm    

In the episode "Gambit"...the command system was as follows:

Captain Picard
(left ship - ship command auto passed to Riker)

Number One (Commander Riker)
(left ship - ship command auto passed to Data)

Acting Captain = Lt. Commander Data
Acting Number One = Worf



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PostThu Jun 05, 2003 12:35 pm    

Gonavy17th wrote:
I was never to sure what the chain of command was on the enterprise. To this date, I have percieved it to be the following:
1 - Captain Picard.
2 - Commander Riker
3 - Lt. Commander Data
4 - Lt. Commander Laforge.
5 - Lt. Worf.
Where does the doctor (being a commander) fit into the command and where does the counseler fit in?


Swap Laforge and Worf. Bridge officers have seniority over engineering officers (of the same rank).


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crusherjaneway
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PostSat Jun 14, 2003 3:02 pm    Rank

Well, I checked an official source, and the rank goes like so:
Picard
Dr. Crusher (she has the ability to relive anyone, any reason)
Riker
Data
Worf
Geordi
Troi


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PostSun Jun 15, 2003 8:05 pm    

I beleive subject 177 and Crusher Janeway are correct. because of thier ranks Dr.Crusher would be actually after riker, since he's the first officer, but in a medical emergency she has the power to outrank even captain picard. And troi would be probably after data.


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PostSun Jun 15, 2003 8:14 pm    ur right

Troi would be after Data. Silly me.

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PostSun Jun 22, 2003 11:59 am    

It's ok ::pats crusherjaneway on shoulder:: we forgive you.


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PostThu Jun 26, 2003 8:41 am    

I know that Crusher has the power to relieve people of duty, that is because she is the CMO. I would assume that means if she thinks that a higher (or lower) ranking crewmember is too ill or injured to continue, she can relieve them, but she doesn't take their place, does she? Does she not say at one point, "Captain Picard, I now relieve you of duty. I judge you to be disabled and mentally incapacitiated." But then she wouldn't have just sorta stepped over him and gone and plonked herself down in his chair? I've never seen the bit where she said that, maybe she did bit I don't know....
So I don't think she's second in command, but she's up there somewhere!


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PostFri Jun 27, 2003 3:48 pm    

She actually does, (along with every doctor) as long as there is undisputable evidence, that way she can avoid the court martial.

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