Enterprise-Regeneration

Tyvek · **Wed May 07, 2003 11:44 pm**

WOW,

It also surpassed all my pre-conceptions. I LOVED the ending, and the mention of First Contact.

PrankishSmart · **Thu May 08, 2003 3:33 am**

How could it take a subspace message 200 years to get to the DQ?!?!

Subspace messages travel at warp 9.9999-9.99999~. Otherwise, there would be no such thing as a real time convo, you know when Archer starts talking to the admiral back in starfleet command.

And, why was it when the E-D first encounted the borg, they never knew about them. Apart from that, I enjoyed watching the episode. However, they should not have made this ep. It just felt like they just threw in the borg to have an exciting episode and attract viewers, which they did for just this episode.

And you guys are right, the borg were far too weak, they were not 24th century borg!

But, I should have expected this with voyagers writers. Full of inconsistencys

Tyvek · **Thu May 08, 2003 9:42 am**

eclipse8472 · **Thu May 08, 2003 10:45 am**

I must say I was impressed with all the ties the ep has and how no one believe the story about first contact and how it really happen, lol he was drunk, funny stuff - The borg were handled better than I expected also although Phlox's method of recovering from the assimilation process was far fetched, the episodes was pretty impressive, the assimliated/modified borg ship looked fairly unique. Interesting how the ep went around 15mins with no Enterprise crew or anything nearly forgot I was watching the show. Ah and the ending was awesome

9/10

PrankishSmart · **Thu May 08, 2003 12:11 pm**

eclipse8472 · **Thu May 08, 2003 2:23 pm**

its funny how the borg said - You will be assimilated, resistance is futile, but forgot the- we are the borg - part at the start, I know they left it out to prevent another timeline error though it was kinda stupid

shrek man · Whiz Kid Joined: 14 Jan 2002 Posts: 5519

It was great and I loved it. I give it 10/10.

6 of 7 · Junior Cadet Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 15

Early 22nd century subspace signals could travel a little less than warp 8 (the ships about warp 2). So I doubt that speeds significantly changed over about 30 years.

Lt.BirdGod · **Thu May 08, 2003 5:25 pm**

Well, The one thing that I noticed, the borg bodily shields. When drones exit their alcoves, I can understand they could need a few seconds to power up. But like, 5? Or how about the other drones. They musta shot, what, 8, 9 borg drones. The away team to the borg cube (reference: BOBW) hit about 8 drones before they adapted, and there was 4 of them, correct? (I can't remember, my head hurts) 4 * 2 = 8. So each of them got two shots.

PrankishSmart · **Fri May 09, 2003 12:18 am**

Yep. And, when the E-E destroyed the sphere in orbit around the northern hemisphere, how did it end up right down in Antartica?

I watched First Contact again last night, and it defaintly looked vaparised to me.

Interstelar_Concordium_CM · **Fri May 09, 2003 5:32 am**

space debis can drift for a while and even if some portion of the cube was vaped, not the whole thing was. That my friend is only posible for V'ger who could send out those weird torpedoes.

sevenofninerocks · **Fri May 09, 2003 10:05 am**

I don't need to get into all the scientific details in order to enjoy the episode. Remember that these are new episodes that are supposed to be taking place BEFORE TOS. You should expect inconsistencies since these writers are supposed to be coming up with "new" episodes for the series. It must be a hell of a job trying to think up storylines without messing up what we've already seen in TNG and TOS.

I rate this episode a 9. I do agree however, that these Borg were much different than TNG or Voyager Borg. I noticed that right away.

Lt.BirdGod · **Fri May 09, 2003 11:05 am**

PrankishSmart · **Fri May 09, 2003 11:22 am**

Yep, I agree. There can be no way any drones survived. And, a single drone would not survive entry into the atmosphere, the organic body would have charred to a crisp. Oh wait, the borg can adapt for entry into the atmosphere

Lt.BirdGod · **Sat May 10, 2003 5:39 pm**

But not space...

Interstelar_Concordium_CM · **Sat May 10, 2003 7:56 pm**

but you forget, those borg modified almost all the systems on that ship, and for that ship to go at warp speeds it would have to have a deflector aray so they could have done wat they tried to do in first contact and make an interplexing beacon, there mesage would travel alot faster then a normal transmission, in that case we might end up seeing some more borg on enterprise.

Captain Leah Manzer · **Mon May 12, 2003 6:18 pm**

I loved that episode... and I was glued to the screen lol... But it did have a few inconsistency but i guess star trek cant be perfect... in a way it did change a bit of history because it was such a big episode. I rate it a 10/10 because it was amazing.

Lt.BirdGod · **Fri May 16, 2003 5:09 pm**

speciesLCR · **Sat May 17, 2003 7:57 pm**

Hold on just a second...weren't the first borg found in this episode actually like 100 years old? Isn't that what the researchers said when they uncovered the borg bodies from the ice?