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PostFri Aug 02, 2002 11:07 pm    Q vs. doug (spoken= dow-g)

In a recent episod i saw the enterprise came in contact with a doug. (i think thats how you spell it) He had almost the same qualities as Q, lives forever, ultimate power to destroy anything or anyone. My question is this, are the Q the same as the doug or are they different? and how. Please give an answer.

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PostTue Mar 25, 2003 6:39 pm    

well i think the Q are more powerful then the doug, they have had more time to talk about what the Q can do and it seems like they have more powers


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PostTue Mar 25, 2003 7:03 pm    

Were the Doug part of the thing with Treban?


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PostFri Mar 28, 2003 12:24 am    

What exactly are "the Doug"? I don't recall hearing of them before...


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PostFri Mar 28, 2003 9:58 am    

Doug? WTF.




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PostFri Mar 28, 2003 6:24 pm    

Nor have I


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PostThu Apr 17, 2003 3:58 am    

I think what you're meaning is Douwd. I found a reference to it in Picard's personnell report, that he'd made first contact with them. Here's what starfleet say:

Douwd
An immortal race of pure energy, capable of creating disguises and false surroundings by manipulating matter and energy instantaneously-as does the one who took human form on Earth under the name of Kevin Uxbridge, later discovered in 2366. Uxbridge carried guilt over the instantenous elimination of the 50-billion Husnock race.

Reference: The Survivors

I think that's something like Q, except he creates disguises and false surroundings for other people?
My computer isn't in a good mood today, or I'd look up The Survivors in the Episode database. One more try then......Yaaay! Oh.....AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

The survivors is the one where Data, Geordi, Worf and Beverly hang Riker off what seems to be a lampost?!? Ah yes - it is yet another of these: "mysterious life form with Troi loosing all empathic sense" episodes. Where this Kevin Uxbridge guy wipes out a planet, and then reveals very kindly to us all he's a Douwd. Cool, dude! (sorry, couldn't resist a tacky pun :S ) Or something like that.



^^^ Hope that works (it's just a box with a cross in it for me, but go to:http://www.startrek.com/library/media_TNG.asp?id=18341 for the pic. Funny!!!!! ^^^



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PostThu Apr 17, 2003 9:27 am    

Q-escent?




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PostThu Apr 17, 2003 6:44 pm    

Ah! I looked that episode up in the index. In case anyone was curious to know, this is the synopsis:

After answering a distress call from a remote Federation planet under attack, the crew is shocked to discover that all but two of the 11,000 inhabitants have been killed.

Beaming down to Rana IV, the Away Team finds that the entire planet has been obliterated, except for a patch of land where an undamaged home still stands. Inside, they meet the sole survivors of the attack � Kevin and Rishon Uxbridge, an elderly couple who cannot explain why they survived the devastation and refuse to leave the decimated colony.

Meanwhile, back on the Enterprise, Counselor Troi's head is inexplicably filled with music which continues to repeat unabated, day and night. She confesses her problem to Picard and admits that she is unable to read the emotions of the Uxbridges as a result.

Suddenly, the ship that attacked Rana IV returns to the area and fires upon the U.S.S. Enterprise, crippling the starship's weapons systems. In sick bay, Dr. Crusher tries to relieve the incessant music in Troi's brain by heavily sedating her, then inducing a coma, but nothing seems to work.

Following his hunch that the warship somehow responds to the Uxbridges' wishes, Picard confronts them. Though Kevin angrily insists that he and his wife do not require the crew's help, Picard tells the couple that the U.S.S. Enterprise will remain in orbit as long as the two of them are alive.

A short time later, the warship reappears and obliterates the Uxbridges' home. In response, the Enterprise destroys the warship. Despite the fact that the crew can find no signs of life on Rana IV, Picard insists upon keeping the planet under surveillance.

Within hours, Geordi reports that the Uxbridges' home has reappeared on the planet � what's more, the couple is alive and well inside it! Picard beams them up to the ship and forces Kevin to admit that his home, his wife and the warship are merely reproductions of the originals, which were destroyed in the attack.

Kevin confesses that he is a Douwd, an immortal being capable of creating disguises and false surroundings. He explains that after taking a human form 50 years ago, he visited earth and fell in love with Rishon, who remained unaware of his true identity and magic powers throughout their marriage.

Unfortunately, when the aggressive species known as the Husnock attacked Rana IV, Kevin refused to fight back or kill anyone. However, his wife joined the battle and was murdered by the Husnock, along with everyone else in the colony.

Enraged by his wife's death, Kevin then summoned his magical powers and in an instant of grief, destroyed the Husnock race of 50 billion. Fearful that Troi would discover his secret, Uxbridge put the music in her mind to block her telepathic powers.

Stunned by Uxbridge's confession, Picard tells Kevin that he is not qualified to judge his crimes and returns the man to his planet. But before leaving the Enterprise, Kevin restores Troi to normal.


But I do not remember them. Hmmm, I must pay more attention next time i see the episode.



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PostThu Apr 17, 2003 7:36 pm    

Oh! I remember that episode. I had totally forgotten that he was an alien though.


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PostThu Apr 17, 2003 7:45 pm    

I remember that episode! But yeh i totally forgot that he was a Douwg... hmm.... But personally I like Q better... He seems to be more intersting... proably because i have read so many books about him.


but the Q seem to be all powerful, when the douwg are most restricted. Q belongs to a continume, and he is always around people of his kind. Kevin gives up his life as a Douwg, and takes human form and life. When Q's did this they were killed. So they have to be diffferent



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PostSat Apr 19, 2003 1:01 pm    

Q is always better, I mean, he's freakin Q!


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PostMon Apr 21, 2003 4:00 am    

Yeah, Q is totally the best omnipotent being ever to exist.


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PostMon Apr 21, 2003 12:17 pm    

...then there is 0.... but Q is great! he is one of my fav characters


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PostMon Apr 21, 2003 12:47 pm    

Lol, but is God not omnipotent too? It's in Handel's Messiah, isn't it? God, the omnipotent reigneth, halleuiah OMG. How come I can quote that? Eeek! Well...sharing an orbit with God is no small experience. Lol. How come I can quote that? Maybe Q is the omnipotent one of space. Maybe? Like duh he is!!!!


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PostMon Apr 21, 2003 1:43 pm    

^^^Or maybe Q is God


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PostFri Apr 25, 2003 4:11 am    

I wish! If Q were God, it'd be fun! But then he'll just wreak havoc everywhere... who cares! He's fun!

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PostSat Apr 26, 2003 9:31 pm    

that'd be freaky....expecially with all the books I've read with Q....gah distrustion!

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PostSun Apr 27, 2003 2:13 pm    

I luv Q. I don't get them doug people, probably coz I haven't seen much of them. Doug was kinda wierd though

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PostSun Apr 27, 2003 2:24 pm    

Give me a Q any day

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