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Captain Dappet
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Right.
The Japanese Military bombs Pearl Harbor and you nuke an entire city? Hmmm...
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Seven of Nine
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Joined: 16 Jun 2001
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Location: North East England
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| Sun Mar 23, 2003 12:20 pm |
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So the fact that people are still are being born deformed there is right?
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Praetor
The Architek
Joined: 25 Jul 2001
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| Sun Mar 23, 2003 12:22 pm |
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At least the Japanease attacked military targets. 1000's of innocent people were killed in japan. Yes the soldiers were innocent to i guess but they're in the army.
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LightningBoy
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Joined: 09 Mar 2003
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Location: Minnesota, U.S.A.
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| Sun Mar 23, 2003 12:23 pm |
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Obviously you don't know your history.
The Japanese were given a chance to surrendur unconditionally. It is predicted that we would've lost up to 1,000,000 American Soldires and many, many civilians had we invaded Japan, which was the only other viable solution.
The Japanese fought visciousilly in WW2, the carnage would've been so much more catostrophic had we not done what we did.
It's sad that we had to do it, but in the end, it was nessissary. Most of the Japanese of today even realize it was the proper cource of action.
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Theresa
Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001
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Location: United States of America
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| Sun Mar 23, 2003 12:25 pm |
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| LightningBoy wrote: | Yes. Undoubtably.
More lives were saved than lost. You might say we could've nuked off their coast to let them see the power we had, but they did'nt surrendur after one attack, what makes you think they would've any other way.
It was sad, but the best descision at the time. |
Don't waste your time. Links were provided that showed more lives, ON ALL SIDES, were saved, but disregarded. We even have a topic regarding this.
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Captain Dappet
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| Sun Mar 23, 2003 12:26 pm |
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Well the soldiers that dropped the bomb didnt think it was right.
One of 'em comitted suicide. The others almost went mad.
And why a nuclear bomb? You could've used regular bombs instead. That way you would have avoided too many civilan casualties and, you also would have spared all those people that are being born deformed or handicapped in Hiroshima.
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Vortex
Squeak Attack
Joined: 19 Jun 2002
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Location: The Edge
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| Sun Mar 23, 2003 12:33 pm |
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I think we all need to calm down here.
If lightning boy feels he is right, why are you attacking his beliefs? You will never convince.
I personally resent that the following is forgotten:
We all live in peace. It is something we didn't have to fight for. We never experienced a real war. We are becomming scared of violence. We can't kill the murderers amongst us. It is Inhumane we say.
This is our generation. We forgot the sacrifices our grandparents made for us to be able to live in freedom. And now we are not able to make smaller sacrifices to ensure the freedom of our children.
We have become apathetic. We will not fight for our freedom. Oh yes, we will argue. But when a dictator is removed to ensure a country can live in freedom we say : Da*n Bush!!!! We hate your War!!!!!
Easy for us to say!! We don't live under his regime. Yeah, other say, the USA can use that money for their own citizens (how selfish). The question you guys must ask yourselfs is : What will you give away to ensure your freedom?
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Starbuck
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Joined: 19 Feb 2003
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Location: between chaos and melody
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| Sun Mar 23, 2003 2:05 pm |
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| LightningBoy wrote: | Yes. Undoubtably.
More lives were saved than lost. You might say we could've nuked off their coast to let them see the power we had, but they did'nt surrendur after one attack, what makes you think they would've any other way.
It was sad, but the best descision at the time. |
Thats not exactly true there is still radiation floating around in Herishima and Nagasaki and 100s of people die each year from it
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LightningBoy
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| Sun Mar 23, 2003 2:40 pm |
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Let's see credible facts backing those claims up.
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Starbuck
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did you know that 80000 inocent people died because a few japaneeese attacked us at perl harbor??? granted americans died but still 80000 inocent lives just at hiroshima at nagasaki 100000 inocent people died!!!!does something sound wrong to you????
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Theresa
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| 4evajaneway wrote: | | did you know that 80000 inocent people died because a few japaneeese attacked us at perl harbor??? granted americans died but still 80000 inocent lives just at hiroshima at nagasaki 100000 inocent people died!!!!does something sound wrong to you???? |
That's not exactly right. Hiroshima was years after PH.
You were asked for documentation, not repetition.
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LightningBoy
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Location: Minnesota, U.S.A.
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| Sun Mar 23, 2003 3:35 pm |
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| 4evajaneway wrote: | | did you know that 80000 inocent people died because a few japaneeese attacked us at perl harbor??? granted americans died but still 80000 inocent lives just at hiroshima at nagasaki 100000 inocent people died!!!!does something sound wrong to you???? |
No.
The Japanese did'nt surrendur unconditionally.
Considering any of the alternatives, weighing all the choices, millions of soldiers and civilians would've died, we can be thankful that ONLY 180,000 died. When do you realize that spock said it best? "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." It needed to be done and it was morally, politically, and economically the best descision we could've made.
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Tweea
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| Sun Mar 23, 2003 3:41 pm |
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we had 2 bomb them twice to get them 2 surrender
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Anti-crombie1
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Joined: 10 Aug 2002
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I must say that I find it funny when people who hate america, watch american movies, listen to american music *cough*eminem*cough*
I think people just want something to bitch about, and I also think that since the whole japan thing happend a long time ago, and has nothing to do with the current war, so it should be dropped.
oh, I just heard that troops found a 100 acre chemical weapons facility about 90 miles from bagdad. 
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Jeff Miller
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Joined: 22 Nov 2001
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Location: Mental Ward for the Mentaly Unstable 6th floor, Saint John's 1615 Delaware Longview Washington 98632
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hmm it seems those weapon inspectors should get better glasses lol
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LightningBoy
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Location: Minnesota, U.S.A.
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| Sun Mar 23, 2003 9:50 pm |
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Hans Blicks could'nt find his own hand if he was scratching his face.
Conan O'brien made fun of him best: He had him come out on Valentine's day, to find a big chocolate heart that Conan hid somewhere in the studio. After 30 seconds, the Blicks look alike said that there was no Chocolate heart to Conan who was blatantly eating it, with chocolate ALL OVER his face.
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Los
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Joined: 07 Jun 2002
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Location: Oklahoma fa sho!
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| Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:51 am |
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me > you
That is all
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Tweea
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| Mon Mar 24, 2003 5:07 pm |
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that was a rather weak diss
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Los
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Location: Oklahoma fa sho!
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| Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:48 am |
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I wasn't trying to diss. Go to bed or whatever you do best.
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harrykims#1fan
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Joined: 08 Feb 2002
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Location: Leicester UK
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| Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:41 pm |
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OK i think every1 should calm down i know its not my place to say but the forums are for general FRIENDLY chat not having a go at each other because u have different views
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Starbuck
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| Tue Mar 25, 2003 4:20 pm |
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id watch out kez some people who shall remain un named need to stick their heads in a freezer and cool off and might take that the wrong way xxxxxxxxxxxxx!!!!!!!
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Praetor
The Architek
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| Tue Mar 25, 2003 8:00 pm |
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Anywayz.......how bout them mets?! lol
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harrykims#1fan
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| Wed Mar 26, 2003 2:20 pm |
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| 4evajaneway wrote: | | id watch out kez some people who shall remain un named need to stick their heads in a freezer and cool off and might take that the wrong way xxxxxxxxxxxxx!!!!!!! |
Yeah but it is quite worrying when peoples who is normally friends are jumping down each others throats
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Starbuck
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| Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:11 pm |
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^ yes it is but we get along every where else most of the time
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harrykims#1fan
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| Sun Apr 06, 2003 5:39 am |
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Then why are u all haveing a go at each other 
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