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PostSat Mar 22, 2003 7:02 pm    The TRUTH about War on Iraq.

Fact - Sadam Hussein has killed over 100,000 Kurds and over 1,000 other Iraqi clanspeople around his country.

Fact - Sadam Hussein and his government have already lost most of tehir power.

Fact - Less than 100 civilians have been killed since bombings started.

Fact - Less than 30 American/Brittish Soldires have died in battle.

Fact - Sadam Hussein was holding weapons, which we're banned by U.N. resolution 1441, and used them in battle thus far.

Fact - During Desert Storm 10 years ago, the United Stated did'nt take a single barrell of oil.

Fact - The United States does not have ANY oil dealings with Iraq.

Fact - The United States is not interested in colonizing Iraq.

Fact - The United States will not take any land or oil from the Iraqi people.

Fact - The oil in Iraq will become property of the Iraqi people, pending victory.

Fact - The United States will help the Iraqi people to use the oil to create a stable economy for themselves. We then MAY trade oil and other things with them.

Fact - Most Iraqi refugees support the war saying that it would liberate their people.

Fact - Thousands of Iraqis have already surrendured, and Iraqi top level officials are fleeing to Syria.

Fact - Pending victory, Iraq will be able to decide it's own fate democratically, and if the want help from the United States they will receive it.

Any other questions?



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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 5:25 am    

A correction to the last statement...

Even if they want it or not, the U.S.A will put a puppet dictator in charge.


Much better.



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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 6:44 am    Re: The TRUTH about War on Iraq.

LightningBoy wrote:
Fact - Sadam Hussein has killed over 100,000 Kurds and over 1,000 other Iraqi clanspeople around his country.

Fact - Sadam Hussein and his government have already lost most of tehir power.

Fact - Less than 100 civilians have been killed since bombings started.

Fact - Less than 30 American/Brittish Soldires have died in battle.

Fact - Sadam Hussein was holding weapons, which we're banned by U.N. resolution 1441, and used them in battle thus far.

Fact - During Desert Storm 10 years ago, the United Stated did'nt take a single barrell of oil.

Fact - The United States does not have ANY oil dealings with Iraq.

Fact - The United States is not interested in colonizing Iraq.

Fact - The United States will not take any land or oil from the Iraqi people.

Fact - The oil in Iraq will become property of the Iraqi people, pending victory.

Fact - The United States will help the Iraqi people to use the oil to create a stable economy for themselves. We then MAY trade oil and other things with them.

Fact - Most Iraqi refugees support the war saying that it would liberate their people.

Fact - Thousands of Iraqis have already surrendured, and Iraqi top level officials are fleeing to Syria.

Fact - Pending victory, Iraq will be able to decide it's own fate democratically, and if the want help from the United States they will receive it.

Any other questions?


And your point?


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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 9:25 am    

Captain Dappet wrote:
A correction to the last statement...

Even if they want it or not, the U.S.A will put a puppet dictator in charge.


Much better.


BS, and you've been warned not to do bull like this. You either post what you know as fact, or nothing at all.

THAT comment is racist, and will not be allowed.



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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 9:27 am    

As far as I know, Americans and Europeans are the same race...Hmmm....


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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 9:30 am    

Captain Dappet wrote:
As far as I know, Americans and Europeans are the same race...Hmmm....


You flip flop more than a fish on land. First Americans are bastard dictators, then we're all one race........... Make up your mind.



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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 9:51 am    

Just because one is a dictator and the other is a democrat doesnt mean they're different races. And I didnt actually say that the U.S.A are dictators.


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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 10:09 am    

Captain Dappet wrote:
Just because one is a dictator and the other is a democrat doesnt mean they're different races. And I didnt actually say that the U.S.A are dictators.



Your constant theme of trashing the US can be found throughout this forum. Bush is a dictator bastard, Americans are arrogant, and on and on.



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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 11:02 am    

OK, I'm going to quote myself here:

"Even though we're from different nations, seperated by artifical and natural borders, we're still brothers and sisters of this race called humanity."

There.



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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 11:11 am    

Maquis74656 wrote:
Captain Dappet wrote:
Just because one is a dictator and the other is a democrat doesnt mean they're different races. And I didnt actually say that the U.S.A are dictators.



Your constant theme of trashing the US can be found throughout this forum. Bush is a dictator bastard, Americans are arrogant, and on and on.
I didnt say all Americans are. Some are, and it just happens to be that way. And I have not said that Bush is a dictator, he's been voted forth democratically by the American people. And as far as I know, he didnt threaten the people or something like that.


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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 11:23 am    

Quote:
A correction to the last statement...

Even if they want it or not, the U.S.A will put a puppet dictator in charge.


Much better.



Like this? "The USA", I am part of the USA, as are all Americans.



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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 11:25 am    

I'm part of the Human Race, of a sub division called England, which (as I recall) is a part of Europe. I can't remember any hate posts against Europeans!


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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 11:25 am    

When I say the USA I refer to your government.


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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 11:26 am    

Seven of Nine wrote:
I'm part of the Human Race, of a sub division called England, which (as I recall) is a part of Europe. I can't remember any hate posts against Europeans!
Not here, no. Let me see if I can find that link for ya'll...


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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 11:27 am    

Nope, The government is called the government, not the USA. The country is called the USA. And here, the country is the people, not the land.

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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 11:29 am    

A thoughtful mind, when it sees a Nation's flag, sees not the flag only, but the Nation itself; and whatever may be its symbols, its insignia, he reads chiefly in the flag the Government, the principles, the truths, the history which belongs to the Nation that sets it forth.
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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 11:30 am    

That may be so. But that doesnt change the fact that when I say the USA I refer to your government.

And, you're saying that, if I say "The Government" it necessarily has to be the U.S Government.



BTW, here's that link.
I think a joke includes making fun of Europeans.

http://aqua-spirit.co.uk/subdomains/lounge/viewtopic.php?t=216

"Q: What do you call an intelligent man in Europe?
A: A tourist."
Thats the joke I refer to.



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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 11:33 am    

^EDIT You can't used a joke told at another site as your grounds for being rude to Americans here at stv. *sigh
And the US gov., see, even shortened it for you, that will tell us about whom you speak.



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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 11:36 am    

I just dont see this fun of picking on another people. I dont enjoy trashing America if you thonk so.


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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 11:44 am    

^certainly could have fooled me. America is her government. Ya know, the, "For the people, by the people?"


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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 11:47 am    

No, never heard that before, actually.


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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 11:54 am    Re: The TRUTH about War on Iraq.

LightningBoy wrote:
Fact - Sadam Hussein has killed over 100,000 Kurds and over 1,000 other Iraqi clanspeople around his country.

Fact - Sadam Hussein and his government have already lost most of tehir power.

Fact - Less than 100 civilians have been killed since bombings started.

Fact - Less than 30 American/Brittish Soldires have died in battle.

Fact - Sadam Hussein was holding weapons, which we're banned by U.N. resolution 1441, and used them in battle thus far.

Fact - During Desert Storm 10 years ago, the United Stated did'nt take a single barrell of oil.

Fact - The United States does not have ANY oil dealings with Iraq.

Fact - The United States is not interested in colonizing Iraq.

Fact - The United States will not take any land or oil from the Iraqi people.

Fact - The oil in Iraq will become property of the Iraqi people, pending victory.

Fact - The United States will help the Iraqi people to use the oil to create a stable economy for themselves. We then MAY trade oil and other things with them.

Fact - Most Iraqi refugees support the war saying that it would liberate their people.

Fact - Thousands of Iraqis have already surrendured, and Iraqi top level officials are fleeing to Syria.

Fact - Pending victory, Iraq will be able to decide it's own fate democratically, and if the want help from the United States they will receive it.

Any other questions?


wow it must have taken you awhile to find all those facts



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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 12:04 pm    

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776.
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WHEN, in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume, among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's GOD entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the Causes which impel them to the Separation.

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their CREATOR, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate, that Governments long established, should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security. Such has been the patient Sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the Necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The History of the present King of Great-Britain is a History of repeated Injuries and Usurpations, all having in direct Object the Establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid World.



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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 12:16 pm    

Captain Dappet wrote:
A correction to the last statement...

Even if they want it or not, the U.S.A will put a puppet dictator in charge.


Much better.


It's not true. The Iraqi people will decide for THEMSELVES who is the next leader of Iraq. And it will be with the help of the U.N., the U.S. alone will have no say.

Don't spread your BS, you Europeans (not nessessarily all of you) owe more to America than you realize. But then again maybe you'd like to be speaking German right now, with no Jews around you. And you like to live without any kind of democracy.

Blame it all on America and Bush... Foget how many times America has single handedly SAVED THE WORLD. The only reasons you crazy europeans (only you crazy ones) HATE America is because our culture is the wave of the future, and you're too jealous to see that our country has things so right that we control what's what.



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PostSun Mar 23, 2003 12:34 pm    

Wow, now I DO realize you have problems. Obviously your in love with your country to the point that it's pregnant.


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