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PostSun Oct 27, 2002 5:53 am    Does having more nacelles do anything?

i assk this because most ships have 2...but reading somethings, i saw a future Galaxy Class with a third warp nacelle...and the promethius class has 4... whats the difference?


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PostSun Oct 27, 2002 8:33 am    Re: Does having more nacelles do anything?

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i assk this because most ships have 2...but reading somethings, i saw a future Galaxy Class with a third warp nacelle...and the promethius class has 4... whats the difference?


well that future galaxy class thing was hidius, that was a future created by Q. and the prometheus has 5 nacelles, theres 1 on the upper section which comes out when the ship is seperated, so the upper section can travel at warp speed with the other 2 sections.


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PostMon Oct 28, 2002 12:23 pm    

the more nacells the less stress on the individual nacell.

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PostSat Nov 09, 2002 2:17 am    

so if you had ten,you could go faster with less were and tear on necells?
How fast could you go before you riped a hole in time?



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PostSat Nov 09, 2002 2:32 pm    

warp 10 is the fastest you could go, it is infanit volocity, at warp ten you could go inywere you wanted in less then 1 sec. I think that at warop ten you also break thrue the time barier as well. SO FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO POST THAT YOUR SHIPS GO WARP 15 Or 32 OR ANYTHING ABOVE TEN, IT IS IMPOSIBLE TO GO ABOVE INFINENT SO QUIT SAYING IT.

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PostSun Nov 10, 2002 12:15 am    

Tremiles wrote:
warp 10 is the fastest you could go, it is infanit volocity, at warp ten you could go inywere you wanted in less then 1 sec. I think that at warop ten you also break thrue the time barier as well. SO FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO POST THAT YOUR SHIPS GO WARP 15 Or 32 OR ANYTHING ABOVE TEN, IT IS IMPOSIBLE TO GO ABOVE INFINENT SO QUIT SAYING IT.


this is the transwarp theory - http://ditl.org/scitech/dattranwarp.htm

remember the episode all good things, the ship could go warp 13. now theres some kind of barrier at warp 10, once you can get past that barrier you can practically go faster. warp 10, 20, 30 and 40 are the infanant speeds.


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PostSun Nov 10, 2002 12:53 am    

Thank you for the reeding, it was very interesting, but it is what I said, warp only gose up to ten, after that it is transwarp to 20, then there is a second transwarp speed from 20-30, but the ship dosent actualy go warp thirteen, it gose transwarp 3, also no ship has gone faster then transwarp meaning that warp 32 is still too fast and should not be alowed to be posted.


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PostSun Nov 10, 2002 1:03 am    

Nice site, that www.ditl.org

anyway, and I'm only going on what I've heard with this, remember how Picard described the stargazer as underpowered? It has four nacells, but it has a fairly low top speed. Also, for the prometheus, as well as a couple other ships ive seen, I thought the rules were that you could only have an even number of nacells
I dont know....maybe the rules got rewritten while I wasn't looking.....



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PostSun Nov 10, 2002 1:19 am    

It is harder to align od number nacels but it hapens, some ships only have one nacel.


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PostMon Nov 11, 2002 6:54 pm    

And how does that work? In order to generate a workable warp field, you need at least two nacells. The warp field forms between the nacells, so how can it form when tere is only one?


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PostMon Nov 11, 2002 10:49 pm    

The one nacel projects 4 curved beams two meet above the nacell, two below, They conect there to create the warp bubble, but I don't know what makes the beems curve.


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PostFri Dec 20, 2002 10:51 pm    

The number of warp nacells does affect things minorly, but mostly it's just a question of design or practicality (See PrankishSmart's post on the Prometheus).

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PostTue Dec 24, 2002 1:43 pm    

I think it does because the more nacelles you have the more power you can atain and the better weapons you can use


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PostWed Dec 25, 2002 8:54 am    

Jeff Miller wrote:
I think it does because the more nacelles you have the more power you can atain and the better weapons you can use


I don't understand your reasoning there Jeff. Warp nacells drain power. Could you explain your last post for me?


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PostWed Dec 25, 2002 9:53 pm    

having more nacelles does not do anything, however, if the nacell size to ship size ratio size is bigger, the ship will go faster, and hold it for longer times. look at the difference between the galaxy and sovereign. the nacells on the sovereign are huge for the size of the ship.

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PostThu Dec 26, 2002 11:40 am    

Tremiles wrote:
the more nacells the less stress on the individual nacell.


I agree with your answer.. however I do not think it increases speed, however there might be disadvantages to having two many, take our twin engine jet fighters, they can not out manvuer a single engine jet fighters.



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PostThu Jan 02, 2003 11:55 am    

PrankishSmart wrote:
having more nacelles does not do anything, however, if the nacell size to ship size ratio size is bigger, the ship will go faster, and hold it for longer times. look at the difference between the galaxy and sovereign. the nacells on the sovereign are huge for the size of the ship.
ohhhhh, i never thought about that yeah i guess so


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PostThu Jan 02, 2003 1:06 pm    

Shenyang12 wrote:
Tremiles wrote:
the more nacells the less stress on the individual nacell.


I agree with your answer.. however I do not think it increases speed, however there might be disadvantages to having two many, take our twin engine jet fighters, they can not out manvuer a single engine jet fighters.


Is it wise to compare jet fighters with starships?


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PostFri Jan 03, 2003 11:01 am    

It's probably better to compare starships to aircraft carriers or battleships of today. The bigger the propeller and the more powerfull the engine, the more water you can push past the rudder. The more powerfull your engine is, the more turning power you have.


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PostMon Jan 06, 2003 1:48 pm    Does having more nacelles do anything

yes it does it will make the ship go faster


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PostTue Mar 04, 2003 6:16 pm    

first off tremiles is a moron. you can travel faster than warp 10. They don't put a lot of necelles because it probebly be more expensive so you don't really see a lot of ships with more than 2

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PostTue Mar 04, 2003 6:20 pm    

Tremiles wrote:
the more nacells the less stress on the individual nacell.


i think this is the most logical proposal yet!!



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PostMon Apr 07, 2003 11:22 pm    

About the warp 10 arguement

Helmsman, go to warp nine point nine nine nine nine nine three

Helmsman, go to warp thirteen

Make sense?
I used to think that the majority of sci-fi, trek inparticular, watchers had anabove average IQ rating....dont disprove my theory, use your nouse!



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PostTue Apr 08, 2003 12:44 am    



Read the other posts about warp 10 and such. There are valid explanations for it, whether or not you believe its canon fodder.



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PostTue Apr 08, 2003 9:33 am    

Warp 10 is infinite speed. Warp 10 will never be reached, otherwise the universe would implode. The reason they travel at warp 13 is because they have re-calibrated the warp scale to prevent saying warp 9.99993 etc etc.


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