Warp speed

Los · **Thu Jan 02, 2003 8:44 pm Warp speed**

Looking over the Daystrom institute and reading up on some Warp speed, I was wondering how Warp 10, 20, and 30 say "An object at warp 10 travels at infinite speed, occupying all points in the universe simultaneously". I fail to see how warp 10 and 20 achieve this when the subsequent 11 and 21 are pretty straight forward in speed.

harry_kim · Captain Joined: 10 Dec 2002 Posts: 665 Location: Voyager

Wish I could tell you

Zeke Zabertini · Captain Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 4832

Warp ten is infinate velocity. You cannot go faster than warp ten. The reason for the double-digit warp numbers achieved by some shows is merely a discrepency in this. It is writers choice, really; but the Trekkie explanation is that the warp-measurement system has changed over the years for some reason. At present, however, (Voyager and Enterprise series') warp 10 is as good as it gets.

Los · **Thu Jan 02, 2003 11:03 pm**

So then, because starfleet and other races are tied down by conventional warp physics, they can't tavel faster than maybe warp 9.99 and that would be something like... 3000lypy (Lightyear per year).

The excess figures beyond 11 are transwarp figures.

Captain Matt UssVoyager · **Mon Jan 06, 2003 1:53 pm Warp speed**

There is only one Maxum Warp Speedand it is Warp 9.975.

EnsignParis · Lieutenant Commander Joined: 07 Sep 2001 Posts: 257

Hey buddy, we got news for ya.

Voyager isn't the only ship in the Federation.

Voyager's maximum speed is 9.975, there are ships that can go faster.

Tremiles · **Wed Jan 08, 2003 12:49 am**

fastest warp speed is warp 9.999, past that you are in transwarp.

Oompsty · Vice Admiral Joined: 13 Oct 2002 Posts: 6613 Location: LA

EnsignParis · Lieutenant Commander Joined: 07 Sep 2001 Posts: 257

^Not to mention Borg cubes going at transwarp speeds.

Los · **Thu Jan 09, 2003 3:04 am**

So then conventional warp is 1-9.999.
Warp 10 is equal to covering any distance at once, like being omnipresent (omniflourescent?).
Then Warp 11 and higher are transwarp and, tentatively named, "Hyper warp".

Zeke Zabertini · Captain Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 4832

ARE YOU PEOPLE LISTENING? YOU CAN'T GO ABOVE WARP 10!!!

Hitomi · **Thu Jan 09, 2003 11:04 am**

According to www.ditl.org you can

Los · **Thu Jan 09, 2003 11:39 am**

Own3d

So then how would you explain the Borg traveling faster and such and whatever?

Zeke Zabertini · Captain Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 4832

Transwarp is just faster warp you can have warp 10 or warp 9.infinate 9s but not anything higher than ten. Someone back me up here. Either that, or explain to me how you go faster than infinate speed!? If you go infinately fast, you can't go faster than that! Don't tell me the borg can, thier ships take time (granted, a very short amount of time) to get places. That means it must be below warp 10! Paris only took time to get where he was going because his ship needed to get up to warp ten. Once he was there, it was only a matter of deciding where to come out, hence the short time delay.

Vortex · **Thu Jan 09, 2003 6:53 pm**

You cannot go above warp 9.999999 with a conventional warpdrive, you need a transwarp drive for that. With a conventional warpdrive it would require unlimited energy to breech the barrier. With a transwarp drive it doesn't. The transwarp drive makes it possible to go through the barriers.

You are confusing them. They are 2 different things.

The daystrom institute is quite clear about it, so why dont you read up and then revise your statement?

More is to be found at this discussion.

http://www.startrekvoyager.com/Forums/viewtopic.php?t=7356

Zeke Zabertini · Captain Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 4832

I don't care what the scale is. Transwarp cannot go above infinate velocity, because there is nothing above infinity! When you can go anywhere instantly, you can't go any faster!

Vortex · **Thu Jan 09, 2003 7:52 pm**

Zeke Zabertini · Captain Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 4832

So we agree that you can't go faster than infinate speed?

Los · **Fri Jan 10, 2003 2:21 am**

Transwarp isn't about going faster than 'infinitely' times light. Transwarp is a faster means of getting there.

For instance, you have horse and car.
Horse, at maximum warp per say, is 32 mph. If you can hit 33 mph on a horse, you can touch all points within the known universe (hypothetically). That is the infinite powersource into infinite velocity.
The car, working as a transwarp system, is in fact, a better warp system that allows you to go FASTER than conventional warp. Thus, the car can travel up to 150 mph and at 151 is its theoretical threshold in which requires an infinite amount of power to reach an infinite amount of velocity.

Warp 10, warp 20, warp 30, etc are figures in which a maximum potential is reached. Again, Transwarp and faster are not faster than warp 10 per say, though the number might be a misnomer, but ideally, its a faster way to travel than conventional warp.

warp < warp 10
transwarp < warp 20 (equivolent warp 10)

etc.

am I the only one who sees this? Maybe I just answered my own question.

Zeke Zabertini · Captain Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 4832

Now you're starting to make sense. I'm not blind. Explain the warp/transwarp scales to me.

Hitomi · **Fri Jan 10, 2003 11:48 am**

Zeke Zabertini · Captain Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 4832

Ok, but one more question. Warp ten does not require an infinate amount of power. We've seen ships reach warp ten.

EnsignParis · Lieutenant Commander Joined: 07 Sep 2001 Posts: 257

I have another way of thinking of this...

Warp 11, 12, 13, 14 etc. just LABELS number between Warp 9 and Warp 10.

If after Warp 9.999 you are in transwarp, then Warp 9.9999 is probably around Warp 11's speed (total guess).

You need a special core to reach Warp 9.9999, but, in reality, the speed is just greater, and Warp 11 is just a way to label that number.

Zeke Zabertini · Captain Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 4832

I can go with that.

PrankishSmart · **Sat Jan 11, 2003 2:14 am**