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Pah-Wraith Sheikh
Joined: 30 Nov 2001 Posts: 6012 Location: Londonistan.
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Sat Jan 04, 2003 6:34 am Star Trek Nemesis - for those who've seen it *SPOILER* |
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I've set this up for those who've seen the film and want to discuss particular scenes AGAIN I WARN THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN IT THERE ARE SPOILERS!!!!!!!
*please if any mods want to lock this bare in mind i set it up for those who have seen the film and don't want to spoil others fun*
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Los Commodore
Joined: 07 Jun 2002 Posts: 1336 Location: Oklahoma fa sho!
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Sat Jan 04, 2003 12:34 pm |
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Do you think B-4 will have the same abilities as Data? Though his positronic net wasn't as sophisticated as Data because of experience and amount of data stored, he did, in fact, get all of Data's memories up to the disconnection and shutdown while Data went nuts on the Remulan ship.
What says you?
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PicardsTrueLove Commodore
Joined: 26 Dec 2002 Posts: 1840 Location: Nowhere, Earth
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Sat Jan 04, 2003 1:57 pm |
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I hope that B-4 can become as sophisticated as Data (other wise I'll just cry... ) But it's also concievable that they'll be able to use Data's information and B-4 to make another android, into whom they can pour all of Data's memories/abilities/etc. b/c those thigns area ll contained in B-4. hmmm....
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Pah-Wraith Sheikh
Joined: 30 Nov 2001 Posts: 6012 Location: Londonistan.
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Sat Jan 04, 2003 3:51 pm |
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Los wrote: | Do you think B-4 will have the same abilities as Data? Though his positronic net wasn't as sophisticated as Data because of experience and amount of data stored, he did, in fact, get all of Data's memories up to the disconnection and shutdown while Data went nuts on the Remulan ship.
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I hope in other NON-TNG movies they update us on b-4's progress however I hope he does not become what data was that would be another cheasy story to bring the whole crew back in the next film
I thought the Argo shuttle POD and Jeep were cool I'd love and ace jeep like that
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Los Commodore
Joined: 07 Jun 2002 Posts: 1336 Location: Oklahoma fa sho!
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Sat Jan 04, 2003 4:39 pm |
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Data rox joo.
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eclipse8472 Captain
Joined: 02 Apr 2002 Posts: 863 Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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Sat Jan 04, 2003 6:45 pm |
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I also really hope the update us on B4 status in future star trek movies, other wise they would have been little point in having appear only once.
we want to know more, at least I do
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Pah-Wraith Sheikh
Joined: 30 Nov 2001 Posts: 6012 Location: Londonistan.
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Sat Jan 04, 2003 6:47 pm |
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Yeah exactly and I hope it's not info from a book coz half the time star trek novels don't actually happen in the series/movie timeline
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syd2002 Admiral
Joined: 25 Mar 2002 Posts: 8919 Location: Somewere in the world, makeing a difference
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Sun Jan 05, 2003 11:54 am |
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You are right, I like that cool ship shason has.
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Deela Commodore
Joined: 15 Jul 2002 Posts: 1343 Location: The CIA
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Mon Jan 06, 2003 6:51 pm |
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Yeah, they did a great job with the Scimitar. Picard was dead on when he called her a predator, especially Worf started listing all the weapons systems it had. It would scare the crap out of me if I ever found myself staring across space at something like that. The ship's appearance alone was intimidating.
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Pah-Wraith Sheikh
Joined: 30 Nov 2001 Posts: 6012 Location: Londonistan.
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Tue Jan 07, 2003 4:36 pm |
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R.I.P -Luitenant Commander Data
Cause of death-Line of Duty
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AJaneway Captain
Joined: 16 Nov 2001 Posts: 850 Location: USS Voyager
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Fri Jan 10, 2003 4:11 pm |
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Great movie seen it Twice
But when Captin Picard was at the Starfleeet Acamedy in Tapstry he was not bald and in the picture they showed in the movie he does also bootby ask him what happpen to all his hair so the picture kind of dose not fit
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Pah-Wraith Sheikh
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Wed Jan 15, 2003 8:15 am |
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Yeah I noticed that aswell, Picard also said him and shinzon shared the same heart but Picard has a fake heart
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alisa_2002000 Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Sep 2002 Posts: 3885 Location: England
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Wed Jan 15, 2003 3:05 pm |
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Maybe he meant metaphorically
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Arellia The Quiet One
Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 4425 Location: Dallas, TX
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Sat Feb 01, 2003 12:46 pm |
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I liked the movie, but I really wanted Shinzon to come around! I thought he would.... Also, I wished that Data would have a more memorable memorial service. But over all, it was totally great!
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Frosty Lieutenant
Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 162 Location: ON, Canada
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Sat Feb 01, 2003 8:37 pm |
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I thought the movie was okay, I was a little disapointed actually. They could have brought up more issues about cloning and stuff, but since its a big movie that was replaced by: BLOWING STUFF UP! Stupid Hollywood. The humour was great though.
Heh, oh Riker, Picard will always be more buff than you, even though he's older.
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Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
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Sat Feb 01, 2003 11:21 pm |
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Pah-Wraith wrote: |
I thought the Argo shuttle POD and Jeep were cool I'd love and ace jeep like that |
Best part of the whole movie,
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harrykims#1fan Fan Girl Muskateer
Joined: 08 Feb 2002 Posts: 2916 Location: Leicester UK
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Sun Feb 02, 2003 5:16 am |
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Maquis74656 wrote: | Pah-Wraith wrote: |
I thought the Argo shuttle POD and Jeep were cool I'd love and ace jeep like that |
Best part of the whole movie, |
definately that was the best part
that jeep is so decent i wish i had 1
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PrankishSmart Rear Admiral
Joined: 29 Apr 2002 Posts: 4779 Location: Hobart, Australia.
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 8:39 am |
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Deela wrote: | Yeah, they did a great job with the Scimitar. Picard was dead on when he called her a predator, especially Worf started listing all the weapons systems it had. It would scare the crap out of me if I ever found myself staring across space at something like that. The ship's appearance alone was intimidating. |
Who do you rekon would have won if the E-E had janeways armour tech from endgame
Thing I found strange about the movie is that she ran out of torpedos . Isn't the E-E meant to have like 300 quantums? She only fired 9 (from my count)
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excel55 Ensign
Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Posts: 65 Location: Red Neckville USA
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Mon Feb 17, 2003 6:19 pm |
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Why did Data die!!!
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Lt.BirdGod Captain
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 619 Location: Sol System, 3rd planet from the Sun
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Mon Feb 17, 2003 9:09 pm |
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1) In tapestry, That was Captain Picard as we viewed him. If you think back to the flash when Q showed Jean-Luc the fight, he clearly had hair.
2) Data died because it was in the best interest for his crew and for all life. Besides, his contract was probably never reknewed.
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Los Commodore
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Wed Feb 19, 2003 1:11 pm |
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We also have to remember that, though the episodes are factual, each time we see a glance into the future, its just a possibility. Since the series never continued up to that point, we don't know anything more about any of the characters until the movie began.
Someone said 'the future is not etched in stone.'
The same can be said about tv show turning into movies.
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lord_picard Captain
Joined: 27 Feb 2003 Posts: 713
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Tue Mar 04, 2003 12:55 pm |
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it was a great movie
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startrekgirltng Black Belt Woman
Joined: 30 Mar 2003 Posts: 604 Location: The USS Enterprise NCC 1701 E bridge or my ready room
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Thu Jun 05, 2003 6:57 pm |
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PicardsTrueLove wrote: | I hope that B-4 can become as sophisticated as Data (other wise I'll just cry... ) But it's also concievable that they'll be able to use Data's information and B-4 to make another android, into whom they can pour all of Data's memories/abilities/etc. b/c those thigns area ll contained in B-4. hmmm.... | yes it, was good
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tomparis Stooge Three
Joined: 25 Jun 2001 Posts: 5964 Location: At your computer, hacking your files.
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Fri Jun 06, 2003 2:30 am |
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Yes it was a good movie.
Picard:I've wanted to try out the Argo.
Riker:I bet you have.
Picard:And if anything happened to you, your wife would never forgive me. You have the bridge... Mr. Troi.
I don't think that B-4 will have Data's abilities right away, but he will process them, and begin to use them. Remember that at the end of the movie, he started singing "Blue Skys", but he couldn't remember parts of it until Picard said the words, then B-4 would say the words.
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crusherjaneway Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 14 Jun 2003 Posts: 109 Location: PA
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Sat Jun 14, 2003 3:00 pm Bev |
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It was an okay movie, but here are my problems with it:
1-Data's dead!
2-They had to bring in the "dumb" Data.
3-Gates McFadden only had six lines; I counted.
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