| Do you think 9/11 was justified? |
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Robin
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 Fri Nov 08, 2002 1:14 pm Do you feel that 9/11 was justified in some way?? |
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Does anyone here feel that 9/11 sorta taught the americans a lesson that they shouldnt think that they are the Strongest greatest Nation on the planet, and that America shouldnt act as if it rules the Universe ??
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Theresa
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| Fri Nov 08, 2002 2:03 pm |
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Hmmm.... I've never seen America think it rules the Universe, or the world for that matter. I've seen her try to push democracy and basic human rights, but never act like she owns/rules the place.
As for teaching us a lesson? Ha. No. All it has done is make us more aware. We know that we have vulnerablities.
Strongest nation........ Militarily, we kind of are. I am of course counting those countries allied w/ the US. I'm sure if the whole world went after us, allied, we'd get our asses kicked, but before that happened, there'd be one heck of a fight.
And it's natural for a people to think that their country is the strongest and greatest. I'd be rather disappointed if others didn't, also. It's called patriotism. Of course you have to balance that w/ reality, but, well, you get my point.
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| Fri Nov 08, 2002 2:06 pm |
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Oh, yeah. Your question really doesn't fit your poll question. NO country deserves something like that. Would you mind adjusting that?
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| Fri Nov 08, 2002 3:15 pm |
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people who think that sep 11th was justified are sick in the head. Anyone killing innocente people is sick for that matter. There are some mixed feeling for me as well, but not about sept 11th. The person that created this sick scenery from hell must be at least sentenced to death, such a creature has no right to exist.
That I don't like bush has nothing to do with it. And what good did it bring? Our economy is down, people are loosing jobs we are at war............
Yeah right, something good came from it..................
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Robin
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| Sat Nov 09, 2002 12:29 am |
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You dont know the other side of the story, vortex...
you just know what the american Media tells you..
When you realise that DUE to america millions of innocents have died needlessly , you might be able to see the other side of the coin.
Ok, I changed the topic name a bit, so it doesnt sound bad ...
And, America does act as if its the boss around here, and pushes other countries around..
Even the United Nations is just a puppet in their hands
By the way Maquis754.. whatever that darn number is, dont let your personal feelings for america affect your MODeration ..
Cause you might find posts like "america is ******"
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Oompsty
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| Sat Nov 09, 2002 8:17 am |
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I think it's wrong that bush is ignoring the United Nations, that instead of ignoring them should push issues through them. No matter what the "media" says Osama did get two planes to crash into those towers on September 11th and NO matter what the reason or what we did that is NO EXCUSE for killing innocent people. If you want to teach America a lessen you ambush an Army base, since Military personnel are not considered innocent, even then that is NOT entirley ethicly right.
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But it's like love or hate, now is that real or fake?
Cause it's a real thin line, but that's your choice to make.
The question at hand, help me understand, is this your plan?
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Robin
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| Sat Nov 09, 2002 9:08 am |
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| Oompsty wrote: | | I think it's wrong that bush is ignoring the United Nations, that instead of ignoring them should push issues through them. No matter what the "media" says Osama did get two planes to crash into those towers on September 11th and NO matter what the reason or what we did that is NO EXCUSE for killing innocent people. If you want to teach America a lessen you ambush an Army base, since Military personnel are not considered innocent, even then that is NOT entirley ethicly right. |
How can you say NO MATTER what you did??
What if i say america caused the death of 5 million innocents... compared to that the thousand lost are nothing ..
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Oompsty
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| Sat Nov 09, 2002 9:14 am |
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An Eye for an Eye is a poor excuse, which is why i don't believe in the Death Penalty.
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But it's like love or hate, now is that real or fake?
Cause it's a real thin line, but that's your choice to make.
The question at hand, help me understand, is this your plan?
I think I can, can I think, then I think I can.
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Robin
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| Sat Nov 09, 2002 9:31 am |
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C'mon, if you go and kill a million people in osama's country, wont he feel like killing you ??
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Oompsty
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| Sat Nov 09, 2002 9:36 am |
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I don't see where you are getting this 1 million people killed from. Yes, he probably would if that was true, but that doesn't excuse doing it back. Two wrongs don't make a right.
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But it's like love or hate, now is that real or fake?
Cause it's a real thin line, but that's your choice to make.
The question at hand, help me understand, is this your plan?
I think I can, can I think, then I think I can.
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Robin
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| Sat Nov 09, 2002 9:41 am |
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Im just taking any number like 1 million for example..
i was just askin a question..
well you answered it, that if someone did that, it is human tendency to reciprocate and want retribution...
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| Sat Nov 09, 2002 9:48 am |
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| Robin wrote: | | C'mon, if you go and kill a million people in osama's country, wont he feel like killing you ?? |
He has already killed many people here.
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| Sat Nov 09, 2002 9:49 am |
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| Oompsty wrote: | | I think it's wrong that bush is ignoring the United Nations, that instead of ignoring them should push issues through them. No matter what the "media" says Osama did get two planes to crash into those towers on September 11th and NO matter what the reason or what we did that is NO EXCUSE for killing innocent people. If you want to teach America a lessen you ambush an Army base, since Military personnel are not considered innocent, even then that is NOT entirley ethicly right. |
Well put. 
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Robin
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| Sat Nov 09, 2002 9:51 am |
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I am saying that he killed people for revenge
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| Sat Nov 09, 2002 9:54 am |
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| Robin wrote: | | I am saying that he killed people for revenge |
Revenge for what? What did we do that would justify killing so many innocent people?
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Robin
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| Sat Nov 09, 2002 9:58 am |
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well, if i start telling you (you implies you as a person) what america has done, well it'll be a long story and i'll be online foe hours..
so i'll just find a website which gives you a synopsis and i'll post it here as soon as i find it
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Robin
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| Sat Nov 09, 2002 10:00 am |
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when you say "we" you refer to america right? Better say 'america' cause its less confusing and so when i will say YOU , you wont be confused as to whether im refering to america or you
Is anyone understanding wat im saying
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Oompsty
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| Sat Nov 09, 2002 12:35 pm |
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It doesn't matter. If you want to get revenge you take a damn plane and bomb an american military base.
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But it's like love or hate, now is that real or fake?
Cause it's a real thin line, but that's your choice to make.
The question at hand, help me understand, is this your plan?
I think I can, can I think, then I think I can.
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Robin
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| Sat Nov 09, 2002 12:58 pm |
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well they might say the same thing.. americans caused destruction of harmless civilians, so they should do the same
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janewaykat
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| Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:06 pm |
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listen killing those people in the world trade center hurt many people including myself i dont think it was justified go shoot the military bases not kill thousands of harmless citizens
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Robin
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| Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:11 pm |
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read my previous post it explain their reason to kill harmless civilians..
HEY REMEMBER, IM NOT AN AMERICA-HATER
IM JUST SHOEING YOU THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN WHICH AMERICANS HAVE SO EASILY IGNORED
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janewaykat
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| Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:14 pm |
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Yeah im sorry im just really defensive when it comes to 911 my parents were on one of the flights and whatever i end up saying comes out wrong im sorry
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Robin
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| Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:19 pm |
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its ok... im just trying to broaden horizons here.. people are very close minded..
9/11 was bad no doubt.. but gotta see everyone's perspective..
When i came to america 2 months ago, i specially went to see ground zero
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janewaykat
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| Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:20 pm |
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well that must have been hard to see i lived in NY near it for awhile but i never could get up the corage to go see it
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