Medicine

Curtis · **Sat Dec 15, 2001 2:38 pm**

What do you think it would be like now a days, if Voyager's(Starfleet's) medicine was real? I think that we would have less deaths and after seeing that Harry episode where those aliens think he comes back from the dead....I think in some cases we would be able to bring people back to life. Therefore, the only thing that could kill us would be "old age." We would even be able to cure some cancers.

Lindley · **Sat Dec 15, 2001 3:48 pm**

While it would be nice, the unfortunate fact is that disease, et al, are pretty much the only thing that stops a HUGE overpopulation problem. So I'm not really sure if it would be good.

I Luv Trip · **Sat Dec 15, 2001 5:56 pm**

overpopulated but a huge breakthrough in medical science.

JaneTrekie17 · **Fri Dec 21, 2001 3:08 pm**

I think in some ways it would be good, cut your finger, it heals. Get shot, it heals. But if we could save people from every kind of sickness and disease (although we want to do that) nature wouldn't be able to run its course.

Crusher_the_man · **Fri Jan 11, 2002 11:06 am**

When i saw First Contact the movie, they saw like if not the Vulcans would come we (furture world) still have disease, cancer and more stuff.

Tremiles · **Sat Sep 07, 2002 7:35 pm**

I think it would be cool to have hypo sprays,dermal regeneratiors, laser scalpuls, and that bed that the sides come up and tell the docter whats wrong. but everybody knows when you cure a desies anouther worse one surfices so I don't think it would be a good idea to have all those medicens, I think if we were going on all actuality the phage will consume the federation sumtime after voyager, and then it will mutate so any inoculations will be useless.

Tremiles · **Sat Sep 07, 2002 7:36 pm**

kind of like the boubonic plauge, we still don't have a cure.

Borg771 · Commodore Joined: 08 Aug 2002 Posts: 1706

The average life span would probably be way up. Lol

Borg771 · Commodore Joined: 08 Aug 2002 Posts: 1706

Also I would think that they could have cured most of the major diseases today.

5thhouse · **Sat Sep 14, 2002 10:58 pm**

Well its not like you CAN actually kill viruses because they are not alive.

But I have been toying with a way to stop the spread of a virus. If you stop the mitotic division of the host cell, then the virus can not replicate and spread.

Chinesetrekkie · **Sun Sep 15, 2002 1:37 am**

Zeke Zabertini · Captain Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 4832

Yes, We need people to die until we find room for 'em all.

The Hunter · **Tue Sep 17, 2002 6:56 pm**

yes your right very much so

Borg771 · Commodore Joined: 08 Aug 2002 Posts: 1706

well... the viruses living thing is debateable. The only life function they do is reproduction, so technicly no they are not living, but they can be "killed" in a sense.

Tremiles · **Tue Sep 17, 2002 7:52 pm**

Kylon · **Tue Sep 17, 2002 8:03 pm HAR HAR HAR**

HEHEHE hahaha (Ive taken too much medicine J/k)

Anyway heres how you can cure "Alot of those diseases"

Using a cancer fighting technique....

Make a "Dummy Cell" or a thing the virus thinks is the thing to infect it infects it but nothing happens, the virus is wasted and the dummy cell just sits there and all...

Also using the technique attach poison to the food (Not hard to do) like sliping medicine into a dogs dish when it has worms. The bacteria/Virus infects or consumes the food the food poisons it and boom its dead.

Another technique to counter Homeostatis (which is basicaly has the definition that everything in the body will try to balance out Example you get too much testostrone and your body stops producing as much)
A way to counter it is... Lets say you get lots of testostrone from being sexually active(which is true) and that also alerts your body you need more testostrone, anyway what you do is... its kind of hard to explain make the body think it has a deficiency by making the part of the body like...

If you wanna add artificial antibodies to a person but you don't want to make there antibody count go down you could maybe put a "fake disease" so that the body would be irritated and would think it was deficienct except you pumped the artificial ones in there so it does'nt think that.

Kinda hard to explain...

Another cure for disease... The EBOLA Zaire virus was counterd using good old fashion Human antibodies... it was killing people by the thousands but... out of those thousands a few people survived. Anyway the nurse treating the ebola victims who had survived and built an immunity got sick with ebola. The doctors did'nt know what to do. So they took blood from a ebola victim who had become Immune and had the antibodies transferd blood from him/her to the Nurse and she got better after 2 weeks (ebola is usualy fatal and there is no medicine, cure, or treatment of any kind except for that one process to cure it)
anyway the same concept could be applied to other diseases.

Another thing you could do a much easier cure is...

Suppose you have a super poison which would kill viruses,bacteria,parasites and of course you.

But suppose you had an Immunity to it.

Then you Injected yourself with the Super Poison which an Immunity had been built and any disease you had could be cured.

However suppose you did'nt wanna wait 30 days-1 year to build an Immunity, You could transfer blood from a person who had built an Immunity then use there anti-bodies which would take you like 1-2 days to adapt and your body using and then you could use the super poison while facing very few adverse effects and then you could survive it and all.

NOTE WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO READ IF YOU READ YOU AGREE THAT YOU WILL NOT EXPAND ON THIS IDEA WHATSOEVER BECAUSE EVEN IF YOU DID RESEARCH IS ALREADY BEING DONE ON THIS AND THERFORE YOU CAN BE SUED OUT OF EXISTANCE IF YOU ATEMPT TO BUILD.

Okay suppose you want to preserve blood for lets say 50 years.
Well lets say you wanna freeze it. Okay but one problem, The water inside the blood will expand by about 10 percent and destroy the inside of the blood, rendering it useless. Not a problem however if you use the resonance frequency of the water/ice so that it can't crystalize, if water can't crystalize then it won't become ice. If it does'nt become Ice it doesnt expand. If it does'nt expand it does'nt destroy the blood. If it does'nt destroy the blood at temperatures of like -200 degrees then you can use even after 20-30 years.

Anyway just thought you guys might get a kick out of all these ideas.

5thhouse · **Thu Sep 19, 2002 6:30 pm**

5thhouse · **Thu Sep 19, 2002 6:35 pm**

let me state that a virus cannot DIE because it was never alive to start with.

Kylon · **Thu Sep 19, 2002 10:34 pm ACTUALLY**

It is possible to destroy a virus, otherwise we would all be dead by now from viral infections because if they were Invunrable, We would'nt be able to fight them off with our pathological defenses, and medicines would be of no use. Suppose you have a engine, and its function is to produce motion and convert chemical energy to mechanical energy. Well sure I can't KILL it but I can certainly put acid on it and ruin it. Same with a virus.