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BrentDax
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| parkan wrote: | I am half-asleep, so the following may be incorrect:
There have been, in fact, several models of unified physics, some of which incorporated gravity into the unified force, some did not. I am quite positive that strong and weak forces are easy to unify with electromagnetic force, but gravity requires a non-boson (i.e. incrporating both 1/2 spina nd whole spin particle) string theory. I think. |
There have been several theories, but none has been proven to work yet. :^) Any new unified theory will include quantum gravity, because the other three forces have unified quantum theories already.
There are a few ideas on what the GUT (Grand Unified Theory) will be, including at least one string theory; I don't remember what it's competitors are. I believe that the supergravity (was that the name?) particle theory was abandoned, but it may have been revived.
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IntrepedII
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i dont know if this helps but we are able to create a no gravity field with the use of magnets , but this requires alot of energie, ive seen a movie in wich they make a frog fly, perhaps its possible toreverse this proces in space so theres a gravity but like i said it requires lots of power so untill we invent a warpcore well just have to deal with the zero g 
ill cant remember the url of the flying frog but ill look it up and post it as soon as i find it 
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parkan
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| BrentDax wrote: | | parkan wrote: | I am half-asleep, so the following may be incorrect:
There have been, in fact, several models of unified physics, some of which incorporated gravity into the unified force, some did not. I am quite positive that strong and weak forces are easy to unify with electromagnetic force, but gravity requires a non-boson (i.e. incrporating both 1/2 spina nd whole spin particle) string theory. I think. |
There have been several theories, but none has been proven to work yet. :^) Any new unified theory will include quantum gravity, because the other three forces have unified quantum theories already.
There are a few ideas on what the GUT (Grand Unified Theory) will be, including at least one string theory; I don't remember what it's competitors are. I believe that the supergravity (was that the name?) particle theory was abandoned, but it may have been revived. |
Actually, a theroy incorporating quantum gravity is not new. Quite a bit of research has been done and some time after tyhe first boson string theory a framework was constructed that more or less incoprorated (I am not sure exacly how they tied gravity in but I know that weak and strong forces were connected to electromagnetic at certain temperatures, extremely low and extremely high respecctively). Supergraviy? What exacly are you reffering to? Please clarify.
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Rose_218
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I think so. Maybe the law of gravity should be revised or something. 
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Borg771
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Hmmmmm.. I have no clue. Maybe.
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Manual6speed
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I do not see why there cannot be a artificial gavity source, put quite of power may/may not be required, give the researchers a few more years until they find an answer and they will find an answer. My opinion
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Hull Breach
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yes when somthing spins it creats it's own gravity. Ever been on the ride "GRAVITRON" at a carnivel? you stand inside and you lean back a little bit on to a pad the size of you boy on the wall and the whole thing spins and you feel really heavy and you can barely lift your self, let alone your arm.
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Borg771
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yeah you could easily. You would just have to use magnets like you said.
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The Hunter
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ya i think that it is possible
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mr_glyn
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Argh i have a headache thinking about all this gravity
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professorstimpy
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Boeing are some of todays major leading reseaechers in anti-grav.
Their idea is that if they can decrease the weight of a payload on a rocket or aircraft, less fuel will be required and they will be able to make larger distances with less expense both to the pocket and to the environment.
They have experrimented with spinning disks under the cargo compartments of commercial aircraft and this somehow decreases the weight of the cargo.
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PrankishSmart
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^Yeah, I have heard of that a while ago
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stv12
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| Fri May 23, 2003 10:17 pm Re: Anti Grav can it be done ? |
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| Shenyang12 wrote: | | mr_glyn wrote: | Could you really create gravity in space with out turning the whole ship..?
You might need something like a maget that pulls on your body
maby injecting your self with a non harmfull metalic substance so the magnet would attract you ? any ideas |
well NASA has been able to create no gravity for people to train on, but i am not sure if they can make gravity, but the amount of gravity there is is caused by the size of the object/the pull it has on matter. Like we have a gravitational pull, just that it is not strong enough to pull anything toward us. |
Yup. I read in a book that the gravitional force between humans is less than the breeze from a gnat's wing.
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Captain Leah Manzer
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I think if NASA is working on it now, and they hvae it in 100 years it must be possible.
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webtaz99
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| Fri Nov 14, 2003 7:35 pm Anti-Grav |
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We don't yet know why mass has gravity.
5 different string theories have been combined to 1, now called M theory. Gravitons are predicted by M theory (and suspected by the current Standard Model), but so far no one has been able to detect them.
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mr_glyn
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Okey i'd better post something in this thread. as i've been busy recently
Gravity is an unknown force, but it affects us all.
Mayb eif we create something with enougth density we could mimick gravity?
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