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Angelus
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 Fri Jul 26, 2002 10:51 pm Why does the first enterprise look more advanced than kirks? |
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Why does the Enterprise on Enterprise look more advanced than Kirk's Enterprise???
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chakotay1
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| Fri Jul 26, 2002 11:02 pm |
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it might but its not because kirk had shields and phasers
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Angelus
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| Fri Jul 26, 2002 11:10 pm |
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yeah but they r a hundred or so years apart and the first Enterprise looks as advanced as the Enterprise E
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chakotay1
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| Fri Jul 26, 2002 11:20 pm |
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it just has better graphics
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Chinesetrekkie
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| Fri Jul 26, 2002 11:22 pm |
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it does look more advance but it really isn't, because now we have better of everything than in the pass, it seems to be more advance, but enterprise nx-01 does have shields and other things.
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chakotay1
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| Fri Jul 26, 2002 11:34 pm |
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| Shenyang12 wrote: | | it does look more advance but it really isn't, because now we have better of everything than in the pass, it seems to be more advance, but enterprise nx-01 does have shields and other things. |
in simpilar terms better graphics and a shinnier ship
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Chinesetrekkie
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| Fri Jul 26, 2002 11:49 pm |
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| chakotay1 wrote: | | Shenyang12 wrote: | | it does look more advance but it really isn't, because now we have better of everything than in the pass, it seems to be more advance, but enterprise nx-01 does have shields and other things. |
in simpilar terms better graphics and a shinnier ship |
yep, like what happened after the vulcan explained what happened... the captain saids.. in english please.
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chakotay1
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| Fri Jul 26, 2002 11:57 pm |
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yah those darn vulcans always complicating things
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Chinesetrekkie
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| chakotay1 wrote: | | yah those darn vulcans always complicating things |
lol,  well i say it the long way, you translate it into a shorter verson.. lol
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chakotay1
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| Sat Jul 27, 2002 12:04 am |
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ok will do
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Lindley
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Starfleet fired all their ship designers between ENT and TOS. They hired new ones, unintentionally setting ship design back by 200 years.
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| Lindley wrote: | | Starfleet fired all their ship designers between ENT and TOS. They hired new ones, unintentionally setting ship design back by 200 years. |
is that true? if that is, that explains a lot.
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chakotay1
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| Sat Jul 27, 2002 12:35 am |
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yah it certainly would wouldn't it hu that sucks that they did that
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Voy_Girl
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| Sat Jul 27, 2002 2:38 pm Re: Why does the first enterprise look more advanced than ki |
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| Angelus wrote: | | Why does the Enterprise on Enterprise look more advanced than Kirk's Enterprise??? |
Didn't Kirk command the first enterprise?
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nope
Archer was first with nx version
then when it became a registered starship it was captain robert april then captain christopher pike then kirk
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Lindley
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| Shenyang12 wrote: | | Lindley wrote: | | Starfleet fired all their ship designers between ENT and TOS. They hired new ones, unintentionally setting ship design back by 200 years. |
is that true? if that is, that explains a lot. |
No, I just made it up. It sounds better than "We don't use '60s FX anymore". 
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Captain Jayson Day
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maybe better graphics made it look more interesting so it would draw more of an audiance
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Voy_Girl
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| Buffy wrote: | nope
Archer was first with nx version
then when it became a registered starship it was captain robert april then captain christopher pike then kirk |
Yeah, but Kirk DID command the U.S.S. Enterprise 1701, didn't he?
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Angelus
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| Sun Aug 11, 2002 12:50 am |
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Kirk DID command NCC-1701, and NCC-1701A, but the first enterprise (according to the continually changing timeline) was NX-01. But that still doesn't change the fact that NX-01's desing is "historically inaccurate".
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Intrepid241
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| Sun Aug 11, 2002 12:09 pm |
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No matter how hard the production designers on ENT tried they couldn't make Enterprise NX-01 look less advanced than Kirks Enterprise. The idea was when designing the new ship...it was too look closer to today's version of a spaceship. Since TOS was filmed in the mid 60's, Kirks Enterprise looks less advanced than the space shuttle Discovery! Once you get past that fact you can enjoy the show more and stop nitpicking!
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Navagator Jen
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| Mon Aug 12, 2002 1:01 pm |
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| chakotay1 wrote: | | it just has better graphics |
i agree
i think that it is also because the enterprise uses more advansed ways of fixing things and not just hiting everything. lol
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Captain Jayson Day
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| Mon Aug 12, 2002 6:49 pm |
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its all because of the graphics and how advanced we are now then before then we made the orignal series
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| Mon Aug 12, 2002 8:36 pm |
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yeah that sounds right
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Bugger Boy
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| Sat Aug 31, 2002 5:08 pm |
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EXACTLY! It's all down to 21st century FX. While we use computer graphics 30-something years ago it was just a 30 inch model on a bit of fishing wire.
And i don't see why we don't see the same species of aliens as we do in TNG and so forth.
Apart from the famous ones like Vulcan and Klingon etc.
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Commander Ranahan
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| Sat Aug 31, 2002 5:35 pm |
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Yeah they tried to Make things seem less advance then St:os
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