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 Sat Jun 22, 2002 9:34 am Can matter only go one way through a wormhole? |
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well, can it?
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PrankishSmart
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shrek man
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| Sat Jun 22, 2002 12:20 pm |
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| PrankishSmart wrote: | |
I agree
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IntrepedII
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| Sat Jun 22, 2002 12:38 pm |
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i guess that depends on what kind of wormhole your talking about but normally a wormhole works in both ways (for example the bajoran wormhole) ,
so the answer to your question is no 
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Computer
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| Sat Jun 22, 2002 2:42 pm |
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thanks intrepid II
although in stargate sg1 matter can only go one way through the stargate
alough that is a star gate
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parkan
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| Sat Jun 22, 2002 2:47 pm |
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In reality, a wormhole is purely theoretical (in fact we do not know for sure that black holes exist). Even if they do exist, the "meeting point" of two black holes forming it would be a singularity, which would allow passage of amtter both ways but nothing would actually be able to pass through it.
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IntrepedII
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| Sat Jun 22, 2002 2:48 pm |
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yep dont mix up the series
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ECHologram
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| Sat Jun 22, 2002 3:00 pm |
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On Stargate they don't know why so you're right it is thoeretical (parkan) 
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IntrepedII
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| Sat Jun 22, 2002 3:08 pm |
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| parkan wrote: | | In reality, a wormhole is purely theoretical (in fact we do not know for sure that black holes exist). Even if they do exist, the "meeting point" of two black holes forming it would be a singularity, which would allow passage of amtter both ways but nothing would actually be able to pass through it. |
ive heard black holes suck in al matter and destroy it ?
how wrong am i
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Computer
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| Sun Jun 23, 2002 10:06 am |
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| IntrepedII wrote: | | parkan wrote: | | In reality, a wormhole is purely theoretical (in fact we do not know for sure that black holes exist). Even if they do exist, the "meeting point" of two black holes forming it would be a singularity, which would allow passage of amtter both ways but nothing would actually be able to pass through it. |
ive heard black holes suck in al matter and destroy it ?
how wrong am i |
i think thats pretty true, although they stretch it, it think 
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Commander Ranahan
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| Sun Jun 23, 2002 10:50 am |
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bajoran Worm Holo isnt exactly like a rum hole because it is stable and Man made......But it resembles a Worm Hole
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IntrepedII
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| Sun Jun 23, 2002 10:57 am |
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| Commander Ranahan wrote: | | bajoran Worm Holo isnt exactly like a rum hole because it is stable and Man made......But it resembles a Worm Hole |
man made that i didnt know
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Computer
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| Sun Jun 23, 2002 12:35 pm |
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| IntrepedII wrote: | | Commander Ranahan wrote: | | bajoran Worm Holo isnt exactly like a rum hole because it is stable and Man made......But it resembles a Worm Hole |
man made that i didnt know |
nope, ii must be stupid or something 
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MT39503
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| Sun Jun 23, 2002 9:49 pm |
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| parkan wrote: | | In reality, a wormhole is purely theoretical (in fact we do not know for sure that black holes exist). Even if they do exist, the "meeting point" of two black holes forming it would be a singularity, which would allow passage of amtter both ways but nothing would actually be able to pass through it. |
Okay, so the only Therotcially possible wormhole today is through 2 blac holes going together. Since it is a black hole you get sucked in. Next you try to get out but you can't because the other side is a black hole too. and if you are still using that same theory you can't escape it unless you can go faster that light which the Theory of Reativity says you cannot do. Am I correct?
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IntrepedII
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parkan
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| Mon Jun 24, 2002 10:06 pm |
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| MT39503 wrote: | | parkan wrote: | | In reality, a wormhole is purely theoretical (in fact we do not know for sure that black holes exist). Even if they do exist, the "meeting point" of two black holes forming it would be a singularity, which would allow passage of amtter both ways but nothing would actually be able to pass through it. |
Okay, so the only Therotcially possible wormhole today is through 2 blac holes going together. Since it is a black hole you get sucked in. Next you try to get out but you can't because the other side is a black hole too. and if you are still using that same theory you can't escape it unless you can go faster that light which the Theory of Reativity says you cannot do. Am I correct? |
Well, sort of. If we manipulated the gravitational fields in a specific manner we could change the joining point from a singularity to an opening and allow matter to pass through, then reverse the field on the other side somehow to propell the ship outward. Or we could have 2 black holes affected by a third.
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Computer
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| Fri Jul 12, 2002 2:15 pm |
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this topic is getting confusing
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Kyre
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| Fri Jul 12, 2002 3:23 pm |
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| Quote: | | in fact we do not know for sure that black holes exist |
Actually, for a long time now, we've known that black holes do exist at the centre of most galaxies. Including ours.
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MT39503
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| Fri Jul 12, 2002 6:44 pm |
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| Kyre wrote: | | Quote: | | in fact we do not know for sure that black holes exist |
Actually, for a long time now, we've known that black holes do exist at the centre of most galaxies. Including ours. |
And You have proof of this?
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Computer
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| Sun Jul 14, 2002 11:37 am |
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iuts true as far as i noe
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MT39503
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| Sun Jul 14, 2002 11:49 am |
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Yes, but do you have tangiable proff, or are you just going with the hype?
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Computer
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| Wed Jul 17, 2002 12:41 pm |
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i don';t have proof no but i just say what i know
which isnt much!
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Kylon
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| Sun Jul 21, 2002 1:25 pm Black holes |
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BLACK HOLES CAN BE CREATED
Not hard Not hard!!!
In my years of madness I Devised many a horrible Weapon!!!
Black hole Torpedos Or bombs was one of them
Simple lets say you have some matter okay lets say like .... a proton
Whats holding the proton together and keeping the positivly charged materials from going from each other ? Gravity
So gravity is holding it together but why isnt it sucking it into nothingness and infinite compression? because the force the Sub-atomic particles won't Squeeze that tight (This is what I think) anyway If there were no Magnetic fields keeping it from collpasing there was no ambivilence to it collapsing then the proton would Compress infinitly but then with no magnetic fields or electromagnetic fields emited there would be no reason for other particles not to get near that space but if they went near it then the closer they got (Which with nothing to keep them from getting closer) the closer they got the greater the gravitational force and the faster they would go together so They would be Sucked into the Miniture Black hole
I know its possible to make black holes but if its possible for us to make black holes I would suppose the the same thing Could Happen In nature.
You can ponder this for a while if you want I really don't care but youll reach the same conclusion.
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Sun Sep 15, 2002 6:01 pm |
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yes. they go back and forth through wormholes in TNG and DS9
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The Hunter
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| Tue Sep 17, 2002 6:30 pm |
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no beacuse then how could ships travel abck through the wormwholes
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