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Mulder
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 Tue May 07, 2002 3:08 pm Warpcores |
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I have some questions about warpcores
1.) How big is an average warpcore?
2.) What's the temperature in a warpcore?
3.) How many warpcores does a ship have?
4.) Is building a warpcore nowadays possible
5.) How do warpcores work?
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starkweather
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| Tue May 07, 2002 9:49 pm |
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those are some intresting questions... let me see if i can get an answere for ya. * looks frnticly for star trek techinical manual* ahhh here it is.
2. temputure in a warp core: the book says 2 x 10 to the 12th power in Kelvins
4 is building one possible: today scientists have found a way to hold asn use matter anti matter but only for a short time, like 2 seconds if i rember correctley.
5. how they work: this ones tough, lets see here, according to the book the diltium ctystals are hit witha compresed plasma stream and both matter and anti matter sreams to draw the energy from the crystal, then that energy is transfred to the naccleas, then it is egnited in the feld coils like a pistions does ina car, and thus propells the ship forward, hope this helps out.
3. how many cores: ther is only one per ship usally, but i beleve ther are three on the prometheus, not sure though.
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parkan
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| Tue May 07, 2002 10:02 pm |
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| starkweather wrote: | those are some intresting questions... let me see if i can get an answere for ya. * looks frnticly for star trek techinical manual* ahhh here it is.
2. temputure in a warp core: the book says 2 x 10 to the 12th power in Kelvins
4 is building one possible: today scientists have found a way to hold asn use matter anti matter but only for a short time, like 2 seconds if i rember correctley.
5. how they work: this ones tough, lets see here, according to the book the diltium ctystals are hit witha compresed plasma stream and both matter and anti matter sreams to draw the energy from the crystal, then that energy is transfred to the naccleas, then it is egnited in the feld coils like a pistions does ina car, and thus propells the ship forward, hope this helps out.
3. how many cores: ther is only one per ship usally, but i beleve ther are three on the prometheus, not sure though. |
The maximum antimatter containment time is much shorter than 2 seconds. A real warp core would get the energy from co-anihilation of matter and antimatter, without the need of any crystals.
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starkweather
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| Tue May 07, 2002 10:10 pm |
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huh, your right, and im wrong, its late i need to get some altale water or something  * rubbs eyes* boy did i wrote that , sorry parken for the mix up.
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parkan
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| Tue May 07, 2002 10:30 pm |
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| starkweather wrote: | | huh, your right, and im wrong, its late i need to get some altale water or something * rubbs eyes* boy did i wrote that , sorry parken for the mix up. |
AS long as the above post is not sarcastic (I need sleep now as well) Most people would have no idea what antimatter really is, never mind know that it needs to be contained.
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starkweather
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| Tue May 07, 2002 10:33 pm |
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the above is not sarcastic in any way, to put it planily i need more trek info, guess i need to read a little more, thanks for the correction.
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Tsuki no Hikari
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| Thu May 09, 2002 4:25 pm |
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I remember on Voyager when Kes had to raise the temperature of the warp core to send out an energy pulse. The Doctor said to raise the core temperature to somewhere between 2,000,000 and 3,000,000 Kelvins. That's pretty friggen hot if I say so myself...
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parkan
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| Tsuki no Hikari wrote: | | I remember on Voyager when Kes had to raise the temperature of the warp core to send out an energy pulse. The Doctor said to raise the core temperature to somewhere between 2,000,000 and 3,000,000 Kelvins. That's pretty friggen hot if I say so myself... |
The matter-antimatter reaction is the most powerful known energy source in the universe, hence the heat.
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MT39503
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| Mon May 13, 2002 6:24 pm |
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| parkan wrote: | | starkweather wrote: | those are some intresting questions... let me see if i can get an answere for ya. * looks frnticly for star trek techinical manual* ahhh here it is.
2. temputure in a warp core: the book says 2 x 10 to the 12th power in Kelvins
4 is building one possible: today scientists have found a way to hold asn use matter anti matter but only for a short time, like 2 seconds if i rember correctley.
5. how they work: this ones tough, lets see here, according to the book the diltium ctystals are hit witha compresed plasma stream and both matter and anti matter sreams to draw the energy from the crystal, then that energy is transfred to the naccleas, then it is egnited in the feld coils like a pistions does ina car, and thus propells the ship forward, hope this helps out.
3. how many cores: ther is only one per ship usally, but i beleve ther are three on the prometheus, not sure though. |
The maximum antimatter containment time is much shorter than 2 seconds. A real warp core would get the energy from co-anihilation of matter and antimatter, without the need of any crystals. |
Worng! Warpcores sstill need the crystals tho stabalize the recaction. We are missing there *crystals*; this prevents us (nowadays) from creating a stable recation.
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parkan
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| Mon May 13, 2002 6:29 pm |
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| MT39503 wrote: | | parkan wrote: | | starkweather wrote: | those are some intresting questions... let me see if i can get an answere for ya. * looks frnticly for star trek techinical manual* ahhh here it is.
2. temputure in a warp core: the book says 2 x 10 to the 12th power in Kelvins
4 is building one possible: today scientists have found a way to hold asn use matter anti matter but only for a short time, like 2 seconds if i rember correctley.
5. how they work: this ones tough, lets see here, according to the book the diltium ctystals are hit witha compresed plasma stream and both matter and anti matter sreams to draw the energy from the crystal, then that energy is transfred to the naccleas, then it is egnited in the feld coils like a pistions does ina car, and thus propells the ship forward, hope this helps out.
3. how many cores: ther is only one per ship usally, but i beleve ther are three on the prometheus, not sure though. |
The maximum antimatter containment time is much shorter than 2 seconds. A real warp core would get the energy from co-anihilation of matter and antimatter, without the need of any crystals. |
Worng! Warpcores sstill need the crystals tho stabalize the recaction. We are missing there *crystals*; this prevents us (nowadays) from creating a stable recation. |
That is their purpose in ST. In reality, however, no crystal structure would be able to stabilze an matter-anutmatter reaction
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MT39503
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| Wed May 15, 2002 11:33 pm |
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| parkan wrote: | | MT39503 wrote: | | parkan wrote: | | starkweather wrote: | those are some intresting questions... let me see if i can get an answere for ya. * looks frnticly for star trek techinical manual* ahhh here it is.
2. temputure in a warp core: the book says 2 x 10 to the 12th power in Kelvins
4 is building one possible: today scientists have found a way to hold asn use matter anti matter but only for a short time, like 2 seconds if i rember correctley.
5. how they work: this ones tough, lets see here, according to the book the diltium ctystals are hit witha compresed plasma stream and both matter and anti matter sreams to draw the energy from the crystal, then that energy is transfred to the naccleas, then it is egnited in the feld coils like a pistions does ina car, and thus propells the ship forward, hope this helps out.
3. how many cores: ther is only one per ship usally, but i beleve ther are three on the prometheus, not sure though. |
The maximum antimatter containment time is much shorter than 2 seconds. A real warp core would get the energy from co-anihilation of matter and antimatter, without the need of any crystals. |
Worng! Warpcores sstill need the crystals tho stabalize the recaction. We are missing there *crystals*; this prevents us (nowadays) from creating a stable recation. |
That is their purpose in ST. In reality, however, no crystal structure would be able to stabilze an matter-anutmatter reaction |
We don't know this at all but, something must control the reaction. Merley spectualtion, that is all.
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parkan
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| Thu May 16, 2002 8:01 pm |
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| MT39503 wrote: | | parkan wrote: | | MT39503 wrote: | | parkan wrote: | | starkweather wrote: | those are some intresting questions... let me see if i can get an answere for ya. * looks frnticly for star trek techinical manual* ahhh here it is.
2. temputure in a warp core: the book says 2 x 10 to the 12th power in Kelvins
4 is building one possible: today scientists have found a way to hold asn use matter anti matter but only for a short time, like 2 seconds if i rember correctley.
5. how they work: this ones tough, lets see here, according to the book the diltium ctystals are hit witha compresed plasma stream and both matter and anti matter sreams to draw the energy from the crystal, then that energy is transfred to the naccleas, then it is egnited in the feld coils like a pistions does ina car, and thus propells the ship forward, hope this helps out.
3. how many cores: ther is only one per ship usally, but i beleve ther are three on the prometheus, not sure though. |
The maximum antimatter containment time is much shorter than 2 seconds. A real warp core would get the energy from co-anihilation of matter and antimatter, without the need of any crystals. |
Worng! Warpcores sstill need the crystals tho stabalize the recaction. We are missing there *crystals*; this prevents us (nowadays) from creating a stable recation. |
That is their purpose in ST. In reality, however, no crystal structure would be able to stabilze an matter-anutmatter reaction |
We don't know this at all but, something must control the reaction. Merley spectualtion, that is all. |
Such reaction will probably stabilized by some sort of a dampening field.
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MT39503
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| Wed May 22, 2002 10:22 pm |
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It could, but crystals also would work. They may also be safer. With a power faulire the dampining field would collapse, crystals would remain.
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parkan
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| Thu May 23, 2002 9:27 pm |
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But how can a crystallic structure contain such massive reaction??
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MT39503
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| Thu May 23, 2002 10:52 pm |
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| parkan wrote: | | But how can a crystallic structure contain such massive reaction?? |
How can a dampining feild contain this? Do we know any of this??? we haven't even been out of our Solar System. Ther may be crystals, somewhere...
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parkan
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| Sat May 25, 2002 5:36 pm |
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| MT39503 wrote: | | parkan wrote: | | But how can a crystallic structure contain such massive reaction?? |
How can a dampining feild contain this? Do we know any of this??? we haven't even been out of our Solar System. Ther may be crystals, somewhere... |
Just theoretically. An electomagnetic/gravitational field may prevent particles from escaping, but how can a crystal do that?
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MT39503
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| Wed May 29, 2002 5:49 pm |
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A crystal can refract light to serve its purposes maybe there is a crystal that can do the same for this massive reaction
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parkan
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| Wed May 29, 2002 7:34 pm |
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Unlikely, but yeah- it's possible.
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MT39503
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| Thu May 30, 2002 9:35 pm |
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| parkan wrote: | | Unlikely, but yeah- it's possible. |
Just as likely as we creating a stable energy feild that could contain that amount of energy.
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Kylon
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| Mon Jun 03, 2002 5:56 pm What about..... |
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What if you had a bunch of lead around the reaction (the lead would melt) and it would absorb the energy and spread the heat out then if they had some sort of coolant to take it to a place where they could convert the energy back to mechnical energy or could you use a black body? Something that at a low temperature would convert most of the thermal energy to Radiation more easily controled. Then you could use it as you wanted it. Or.... Also Lithium is used to irradiate hydrogen for fusion.
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parkan
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| Mon Jun 03, 2002 7:49 pm Re: What about..... |
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| Kylon wrote: | | What if you had a bunch of lead around the reaction (the lead would melt) and it would absorb the energy and spread the heat out then if they had some sort of coolant to take it to a place where they could convert the energy back to mechnical energy or could you use a black body? Something that at a low temperature would convert most of the thermal energy to Radiation more easily controled. Then you could use it as you wanted it. Or.... Also Lithium is used to irradiate hydrogen for fusion. |
This all seams feasible for modern reactors, however having a giant heatsink would not be efficient for such a powerful reaction.
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Voy_Girl
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| Tue Jun 04, 2002 2:53 pm |
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It easy to see why ships blow up if the warp core breaches... Such power!
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videokid13166
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| Tue Jun 04, 2002 5:03 pm |
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yea those things have one heck of a lot of force in them.
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