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Ronin Senior Cadet
Joined: 18 Dec 2001 Posts: 22
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Wed Dec 19, 2001 9:06 am |
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Ok so I understand most of the tech on Star Trek but Replicators and Holodecks, I thought holograms were just supposed to be beams of light that are not tangible and how can you create edible food from just energy or whatever it does please clarify for me
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Lindley Vice Admiral
Joined: 18 Sep 2001 Posts: 6194 Location: Fairfax, VA
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Wed Dec 19, 2001 11:23 am |
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Holograms are a combination of controlled photons and forcefeilds. The forcefields are what allow holograms to "have substance".
Replicators function similar to transporters, using energy to manipulate molecules and combine them in ways that form macroscopic items, such as food.
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Captain Michael Pike Captain
Joined: 14 Jul 2001 Posts: 597 Location: PA
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Wed Dec 19, 2001 11:24 am |
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Holograms are projections of both forcefields and light. The force fields give the holographic projection solidity and the refraction and manipulation of photons gives the image. Holodecks work on a forced projection (theoretically) principle which gives the holograms depth and forcefields are used, for example when one is walking. It gives the user the impression of walking while not really going anywhere (think of it as the future of treadmills).
Relicators are entirely a different concept altogether. They work on the same priciple as the transporters, except that they begin with raw matter and during the "transport" the basic submolecular structure is altered to produce whatever it was you ordered. Think of it this way, if you ordered a chocolate sundae the replicator would send the request through the computer. The computer would transport out enough raw materials to satisfy the needs of the item. The transporter would then "imprint" the molecular structure of said item (your sundae) on the raw material thus changing it to the sundae.
This doesn't work for life forms because of the complexity. Also, it wouldn't work for large items like starships because the size of the items, breakdowns in the molecules would happen shortly after replication. (That's why they can't just replicate an entire starship)
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Ronin Senior Cadet
Joined: 18 Dec 2001 Posts: 22
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Wed Dec 19, 2001 12:08 pm |
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Thanks for the clarification
Hmmm i really want a holodeck and a replicator
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Dax Orien Helmsman
Joined: 24 Aug 2001 Posts: 856 Location: My own little hell.
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Wed Dec 19, 2001 12:11 pm |
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Word Ronin, word. Everyone needs replicators!
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Lindley Vice Admiral
Joined: 18 Sep 2001 Posts: 6194 Location: Fairfax, VA
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Wed Dec 19, 2001 1:13 pm |
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As long as they get plain tomatoe soup right.....
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Link, the Hero of Time Vice Admiral
Joined: 15 Sep 2001 Posts: 5581 Location: Kokori Forest, Hyrule
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Thu Dec 20, 2001 3:38 pm |
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and hopefully the replicator won't turn on you like Janeway's did
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Vulcanmanmike Rear Admiral
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JaneTrekie17 Commodore
Joined: 20 Nov 2001 Posts: 1099 Location: Voyager
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Fri Dec 21, 2001 2:57 pm |
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Yeah, that was hilarious
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Maverick Captain
Joined: 30 Oct 2001 Posts: 510 Location: A place far away
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Sat Dec 22, 2001 9:01 pm |
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ok...
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ST-TechWhiz Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 14 Jan 2002 Posts: 75 Location: Mars
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Thu Jan 17, 2002 8:47 pm |
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Blah my replicator will never turn on me!
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MT39503 Commodore
Joined: 10 Apr 2002 Posts: 1437 Location: AZ
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Thu Apr 25, 2002 9:32 pm |
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Force Feilds!!!!!!!!!!
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Link, the Hero of Time Vice Admiral
Joined: 15 Sep 2001 Posts: 5581 Location: Kokori Forest, Hyrule
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Thu May 02, 2002 2:27 pm |
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bajoranhunter731 Ensign, Junior Grade
Joined: 01 May 2002 Posts: 32 Location: San Jose, California
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Thu May 02, 2002 4:01 pm |
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where do myou guys get all this info on how they relly work, i don't think we have any right now, right?
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MT39503 Commodore
Joined: 10 Apr 2002 Posts: 1437 Location: AZ
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Captain Michael Pike wrote: | Holograms are projections of both forcefields and light. The force fields give the holographic projection solidity and the refraction and manipulation of photons gives the image. Holodecks work on a forced projection (theoretically) principle which gives the holograms depth and forcefields are used, for example when one is walking. It gives the user the impression of walking while not really going anywhere (think of it as the future of treadmills).
Relicators are entirely a different concept altogether. They work on the same priciple as the transporters, except that they begin with raw matter and during the "transport" the basic submolecular structure is altered to produce whatever it was you ordered. Think of it this way, if you ordered a chocolate sundae the replicator would send the request through the computer. The computer would transport out enough raw materials to satisfy the needs of the item. The transporter would then "imprint" the molecular structure of said item (your sundae) on the raw material thus changing it to the sundae.
This doesn't work for life forms because of the complexity. Also, it wouldn't work for large items like starships because the size of the items, breakdowns in the molecules would happen shortly after replication. (That's why they can't just replicate an entire starship)
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Actually, in theory, with a complex enough computer and large enough replicator both of these could happen!
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parkan Captain
Joined: 02 Apr 2002 Posts: 833 Location: I now reside in the trekbbs.com forums. See you there.
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MT39503 wrote: | Captain Michael Pike wrote: | Holograms are projections of both forcefields and light. The force fields give the holographic projection solidity and the refraction and manipulation of photons gives the image. Holodecks work on a forced projection (theoretically) principle which gives the holograms depth and forcefields are used, for example when one is walking. It gives the user the impression of walking while not really going anywhere (think of it as the future of treadmills).
Relicators are entirely a different concept altogether. They work on the same priciple as the transporters, except that they begin with raw matter and during the "transport" the basic submolecular structure is altered to produce whatever it was you ordered. Think of it this way, if you ordered a chocolate sundae the replicator would send the request through the computer. The computer would transport out enough raw materials to satisfy the needs of the item. The transporter would then "imprint" the molecular structure of said item (your sundae) on the raw material thus changing it to the sundae.
This doesn't work for life forms because of the complexity. Also, it wouldn't work for large items like starships because the size of the items, breakdowns in the molecules would happen shortly after replication. (That's why they can't just replicate an entire starship)
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Actually, in theory, with a complex enough computer and large enough replicator both of these could happen! |
Another problem with a starship is the amount of energy required
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parkan Captain
Joined: 02 Apr 2002 Posts: 833 Location: I now reside in the trekbbs.com forums. See you there.
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Sun May 05, 2002 12:31 pm |
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Interesting aspect. Recently, scientists have been experementing on genetically engineering viri that could attach to simple molecules and align themselves into a pattern, thereby forming a complex structure. This is supposed to be used in production of sophisticated computer chips but maybe one day it would be possible to create a shuttle simply by spraying viri onto a pile of raw materials
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T.Paris Forum Bouncer
Joined: 24 Aug 2001 Posts: 2081 Location: Alabama
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Sun May 05, 2002 3:44 pm |
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It would be so nice to have replicators in your house.
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parkan Captain
Joined: 02 Apr 2002 Posts: 833 Location: I now reside in the trekbbs.com forums. See you there.
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Sun May 05, 2002 3:57 pm |
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T.Paris wrote: | It would be so nice to have replicators in your house. |
Imagine, if the replicators were all connected to the 'net (which they probably will be in a few decades) a cracker (note that I use the proper term "cracker" (a person with knowledge of a hacker using that knowledge for malicious or criminal purposes) rather than "hacker") could use the replicators for very, very bad things.
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T.Paris Forum Bouncer
Joined: 24 Aug 2001 Posts: 2081 Location: Alabama
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Sun May 05, 2002 3:59 pm |
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That would be awesome. If a hacker got caught though. He would be doomed.
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parkan Captain
Joined: 02 Apr 2002 Posts: 833 Location: I now reside in the trekbbs.com forums. See you there.
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Mon May 06, 2002 9:53 pm |
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T.Paris wrote: | That would be awesome. If a hacker got caught though. He would be doomed. |
*very, very evil laugh*
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MT39503 Commodore
Joined: 10 Apr 2002 Posts: 1437 Location: AZ
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Wed May 15, 2002 11:38 pm |
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parkan wrote: | T.Paris wrote: | It would be so nice to have replicators in your house. |
Imagine, if the replicators were all connected to the 'net (which they probably will be in a few decades) a cracker (note that I use the proper term "cracker" (a person with knowledge of a hacker using that knowledge for malicious or criminal purposes) rather than "hacker") could use the replicators for very, very bad things. |
I agree. I am also impressed with the correct use of termenolgy.
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