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Tom Paris, brother
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PostTue Oct 30, 2001 4:52 pm    

Yes, I do belive that we will have startrek technology. I realy want a computer with an LCARS interface. It looks so cool. All flashy colourful and bright!!! I also think that tricorders (or at least their Great, great, great, great, great grandparents) exist now. We have hand held PC (small, hand held like a tricorder) and crude long distance scanners, digital camares, MP3 players and voice recorders that fit in pens. Combine them all and you have the makings of a tricorder. I also like the comm badges. They look cool!!!!

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PostTue Oct 30, 2001 4:55 pm    

i really can't wait till we have holodecks!!! My wish is that they would make them in this life time of mine. I know that's not possible, but it doesn't hurt to wish !!



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PostTue Oct 30, 2001 4:56 pm    

Maby for warp drive, dilithium would not be neccary. (there is hope) Stephen Hwkins new book talks about warp drive not being totaly impossible with currnt minerals. With a guy as smart as him on our case, we are bound to get warp drive. PS replicaters are cool too.(no dishes to wash, it would be like and all u can eat buffte!!!)

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PostSun Nov 25, 2001 3:56 am    

Yeah but it does create dishes to do need to be washed.



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PostFri Nov 30, 2001 8:50 pm    

I know that the Tricorder Mark I has already been invented! I saw it in a Star Trek magazine article. It reads and records, temperature, EM fields, light intensity, and pressure!



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PostSat Dec 01, 2001 9:45 pm    

This message is going to be long because I want to go over a LOT of things.

Warp drive would be an incredible achievement for humanity. I bet we'd call it Warp Drive, and still use millicochranes and everything, just to make it easier. But the whole idea around warp is based on subspace, as is a LOT of Star Trek technology. We haven't found any other 'sub-dimension' that is void of the law put forth by Theory of Relativity (which has proven to be true). However, humans will probably find a way around it. We've got lots of time to figure this all out. An example that was in the paper (in Canada) about 10+ months ago, scientists sent a photon of light through a chamber and it went faster than light. It came out the other end before it came in.
Also, warp drives work on dilithium, but some people don't know how dilithium helps. 5th Phase Crystalline Dilithium regulates the explosion of a matter and an anti-matter particle and eventually turns the energy into plasma, so it can be used to power parts of the ship. BTW: The matter component of the M/AM Reaction is deuterium (which exists, the CANDU Reactor - CANadian Deuterium Uranium - is a good example). The anti-matter is simple anti-hydrogen. (Deuterium is 'heavy' hydrogen).
Phasers also came up. Phaser energy is released by the rapid nadion effect. Rapid nadions are short lived subatomic particles which can liberate and transfer strong nuclear forces within a class of crystals called fushigi-no-umi. (DITL excerpt). A mirror won't save you from a phaser blast like it would from a laser... I'm off topic. Anyways, the crystal and the creation of nadions would be the only thing stopping us from making phaser weaponry.
Uh, replicators. Okay. We've been able to replicate things like styrofoam cups and all, and some utensils, but the technology is still deep in its infancy.
Computers: We probably have better computers now than what was on TOS! It's not duotronic, but AMD T-Birds and Intel P4's are pretty impressive.
Transporters: Most people know there's been some work on that, but it's still kind of a mystery to scientists.

Well, that's my little rant. If you have any questions about Star Trek, I should know the answer to them! If I don't, the balance of the universe has changed, somehow. Feel free to privately message me, e-mail me, messenger me, or ICQ me.

Pretty good for a 12 year old, huh?



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PostSat Dec 01, 2001 9:50 pm    

You obviously have kept up with all this

A little more info on Dueterium:

Normal hydrogen is one proton and one electron. Dueterium is the same, with the addition of one neutron. Another isotope of hydrogen is Tritium, which has two electrons.



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PostSun Dec 02, 2001 3:14 am    

Are most of us here physicists brought into the world in test tubes? or are we just that smart and have nothing better to do than explain theories on protons and antimatter containment fields?



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PostSun Dec 02, 2001 3:19 am    

Test tubes. Definately.



But really, in my case I just remembered that from HS Chemistry, since I of course recognized the name "Deuterium" as being used in Trek, and therefore made a point to remember what it was.


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PostSun Dec 02, 2001 3:25 am    

That's what I thought!



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PostSun Dec 02, 2001 8:22 pm    

I took Grade 10 Chemistry and Physics when I was in Grade 3, so I've known a LOT about this stuff for a long time. They didn't teach us as much as a standard course would, but for a few weeks, we learned all the elements, all their properties and all their variants. It was cool. In physics, we just learned about mirrors, sadly.



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PostSun Feb 24, 2002 11:39 am    

A while ago I read that NASA have been looking in to doing inter-stellar travel, trying to get people from earth to Alpha Centuri. The plan is to have a 2 mile square, by 1 micron thick piece of diamond sheet. This is because it would collect energy from the sun (I think). This would be the sail which would carry the pod with a human colonie inside. It would have fusion reactors, for power, a few shuttles and plants growing for food. I don't know where oxygen would come from, do they have oxygen generators? But they don't have artificial gravity. (Remember that point it will become useful in a second)

The trim there will take 100 years, going one tenth light speed (Hardly warp!!!) So the colonie is needed because the children are expected to carry on with the mission. That is whay so many people are needed for a large genetic sample. But the children would have no free will. They would be stuck out in space, no way back realy. So NASA intend to walk all over their human rights.

Back to the gravity issue. Remember in DS9 when Dr Bashir had to help that ensgin who had grown up on a plannet with a low gravity, when she went to the station, she could not walk becuase the gravity was too strong for her. Taht would happen to these kids. They would never be able to leave space. Never come beack to earth, ever. They would not be able to breath properly and their heart would have dificulties because the muscles would not have developed the way ours have because they would have never known the pull of gravity. Do you see what i mean.


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PostWed Apr 24, 2002 11:15 pm    

Eventually, it may be real. If fact alot of people are really thinking about the way Star Trek Describes Warp. Alot of people belive it may work (with a few tweaks) including myself.

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PostTue Jan 27, 2004 1:12 am    

I really hope one day that it will be real. My friend said warp travel will never be possible, although I don't believe him.

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PostFri Jan 30, 2004 5:16 pm    

I heard somewhere that they were already experimenting with matter/antimatter reactions (in the King Eds sillybus I think)

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PostSat Jan 31, 2004 11:10 am    

Paul Marshall wrote:
I really hope one day that it will be real. My friend said warp travel will never be possible, although I don't believe him.


Tell your friend to prove it. There was a time that it was believed impossible to land a man on the moon, there was a time when it was believed impossible to fly through the air, hell there was even a time when it was believed impossible to ride on horses!


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PostTue Mar 16, 2004 3:01 pm    

If Leonardo da Vinci conceived the helicopter, airplane, computer and television in the 16th Century, it only stands to reason that trek technology is within our grasp. Including Warp Speed.




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PostThu Mar 18, 2004 5:16 pm    

Andrew Paris wrote:

Back to the gravity issue. Remember in DS9 when Dr Bashir had to help that ensgin who had grown up on a plannet with a low gravity, when she went to the station, she could not walk becuase the gravity was too strong for her. Taht would happen to these kids. They would never be able to leave space. Never come beack to earth, ever. They would not be able to breath properly and their heart would have dificulties because the muscles would not have developed the way ours have because they would have never known the pull of gravity. Do you see what i mean.


Actually, the latest research from NASA indicates that humans can retain their bone density and muscle tone by exercising less than one hour a day in a 1g field (in space, provided by a centrifuge).



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PostThu Mar 18, 2004 5:50 pm    

i think things would be very similar but it wouldn't ever be as good
cuz the ships will probably be a horrible shape and colour and have a crappy name like the IX-7 series... u know something really crappy like everything else in thw real world


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PostFri Mar 19, 2004 1:25 am    

webtaz99 wrote:
Andrew Paris wrote:

Back to the gravity issue. Remember in DS9 when Dr Bashir had to help that ensgin who had grown up on a plannet with a low gravity, when she went to the station, she could not walk becuase the gravity was too strong for her. Taht would happen to these kids. They would never be able to leave space. Never come beack to earth, ever. They would not be able to breath properly and their heart would have dificulties because the muscles would not have developed the way ours have because they would have never known the pull of gravity. Do you see what i mean.


Actually, the latest research from NASA indicates that humans can retain their bone density and muscle tone by exercising less than one hour a day in a 1g field (in space, provided by a centrifuge).


I think he is talking about offspring in space.

Does this apply to newborns who had been exposed to 0g conditions for the first 9 months in the womb? Or does exercising in a centrifuge help the unborn embryo develop normally (as if they were on Earth)?


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PostTue Mar 23, 2004 8:27 am    

To comment on matters of matter/anti-matter reactions and such, I really hope that we don't mess with that form of technology. It's very dangerous to be screwing around with. We lack the comprehension or the humility needed to responsibly experiment with anti-matter. Any thoughts on that?


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PostTue Mar 23, 2004 9:32 pm    

Get serious. Obviously no one has studied human embryo development in 0g - yet. Even the NASA centrifuge information was gathered on Earth and has to be validated in space. And there are currently zero human-sized centrifuges operating in space.

My point was that we have have the option to use centrifuge technology part-time or full-time to keep humans "Earthlings" while living in space.



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PostTue Mar 23, 2004 10:47 pm    

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To comment on matters of matter/anti-matter reactions and such, I really hope that we don't mess with that form of technology. It's very dangerous to be screwing around with. We lack the comprehension or the humility needed to responsibly experiment with anti-matter. Any thoughts on that?

You must take risks to make progress...I say when they have acceptable technology...experiment away!


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PostWed Mar 24, 2004 10:27 am    

Hmm. I think I understand the risks, but for overall safety and certainty, we're not even sure what is completely possible with anti-matter and such. Are you sure it'd be worth that danger? Would you be the experiment conductor?


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