Did the Borg survive Endgame?

deltaflyer3 · Lieutenant Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 137

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In Armada II a Borg cube would easly fall under the combined fire of those ships, even without the Ent-E.[/quote]
that is a video game..........................if you want to take videos as a source of information then a vulcan named terel created the borg (star trek legacy)
and how is present day artillery more of a punch then quantum torpedos....[/quote]

the reason why present day artillary worked better againts drones was because it doesn't have a frequency that the drone can adapt a forcefeil to

lionhead · **Tue May 12, 2009 11:24 am**

Not really true.

pugwash84 · Crewman Joined: 20 May 2009 Posts: 3 Location: england

If the borg were wiped out then why would they have to study them to
create better armour to defend against them?

Founder · **Thu May 21, 2009 9:27 pm**

Well to be fair, the better armor thing was done in an alternate timeline (before Janeway went back).

But I agree the Borg were not destroyed.

Valathous · **Thu May 21, 2009 10:38 pm**

Founder · **Thu May 21, 2009 11:26 pm**

True, true, Dan.

lionhead · **Mon May 25, 2009 11:30 am**

Not a paradox. 2 timeline where created. Though the Queen believed it to be a linear timeline(as she believed if she killed young Janeway on Voyager in End game) its actually not. Changes to the past makes a new timeline, but doesn't destroy the old.

milan · **Mon May 25, 2009 2:38 pm**

The Borg were all destroyed! Bueee, ghaaa, dead! But then we need another game, another series, and of course the super-villain has to return for the hero to do the heroing again! Borg resurrection, hey-hey, more money in Star Trek pockets, and the customer is satisfied too!!!!

Manitou · **Sun May 31, 2009 1:53 pm Borg not destroyed**

I think Star Trek wants us to believe the Borgs very foundation and hold on the galaxy was shaken-- and this was done by Voyager. The trans-gallactic hub in the beta quadrant was destroyed too along with numerous Borg cubes. Maybe it altered the Borgs plan to eventually control the Galaxy- and, given the window, that is what they would do.

lionhead · **Sun May 31, 2009 7:03 pm**

The Transwarp Hub was located in the Delta Quadrant actually.

But you right about the Borg being very shaken and their postion in the galaxy at least at some level decreased.

Interesting to point out though, the transwarp hub had an end point right next to earth itself, only a couple of million kilometers.... In the future where Admiral janeway came from they hadn't destroyed the Hub when they where on their way home, they just ignored it and only arrived home years later. But still the borg never attacked Earth through the hub, which would have been more devastating then anything ever before(imagine a Borg cube popping up right next to Earth)... Admiral Janeway did know that there was a transwarp hub there though, so they must have gone back to find out what it was, or have suffered an actual attack from the transwarp corridor.

Some might point out that is another "stupidity" of the borg thing, but after Manitou's post i've actually become to wonder if it wasn't the Borgs intention to place these Borg hubs all over the Galaxy and make one big massive attack on all Quadrants at the same time when they had all transwarp corridors in place.

That would sort of explain the reason after the Borgs failed attempts to attack and assimilate Earth twice... They wheren't attacking, they where merely testing, gathering info, maybe get a better reading on the location of the corridor they placed right next to it...

Thing to think about.

Founder · **Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:48 am**

I like your theory lionhead. It makes the Borg seem more intelligent then is shown on the show(s) itself.

I still maintain the Borg survived Endgame, though.

blackoutthegreat · Sophomore Cadet Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Posts: 11

There in the new game Star Trek online which takes place however many years after all the other series.

Manitou · **Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:23 pm What happened in Endgame**

These are some important excerpts in the Endgame episodes where they display the status of the Borg.
Adm. Janeway has Janeway to deploy Borg resistant ablative armor and to cruise into the anomaly to study it. After they come near---
Seven: It's more than that - it's a Transwarp Hub.
Janeway: You once told me their were only six of them in the Galaxy.
Seven: Correct!
Tuvok: Of all the Borg's tactical advantages- this could be the most significant.
Adm. Janeway felt it a necessity to accept Janeway's outlook toward the Borg and used the Hub to get to the queen to give Voyager a tactical advantage.
Queen: What do you want?
Adm. Janeway: To make a deal. Capt. Janeway thinks I'm here to destroy your Transwarp Network.
Queen: We will adapt.
Adm. Janeway: Eventually, but not before Voyager does a great deal of damage.
What Adm. Janeway said could mean a Trans-Galactic Network or just that particular Hub. It could imply either one, so their is no telling if more then the one Trans-Warp Hub was destroyed. A good story site I founded is - http://www.voyagr-ep-memorys.com

deltaflyer3 · Lieutenant Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 137

deltaflyer3 · Lieutenant Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 137

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