In your own opinions

[Ntypical]

Please classify each of the below firearms for me. No I am not looking for the nomenclature (IE M16, AR, AK, etc) just what classification you would give the four below rifles.

[Puck]

Well I would go so far as to call them all rifles, but I really do not know that much about guns so that's all I can really say. The first one looks like one we have at my grandpa's, but the other ones look kind of scary.

Might I ask what the purpose of this exercise is?

[Ntypical]

[Thomas]

I'd call them all guns. That's as far as my experience goes.

[IntrepidIsMe]

the middle two are assault rifles? and I guess that bottom one has a scope...

blat blat blat

[Theresa]

I'm going to pretty much agree with Aaron. The bottom three look to be assualt rifles, while the first very much looks like one of the rifles I own.
If I went any further, the first would be more for sport, and the other three for defense/offense.

[Ntypical]

Thank you all for posting. I really apreciate it.

Now, I would like to post a few factual definitions for you guys.

Single-shot rifle:
A rifle that will only fire one shot before you have to reload.

Repeating rifle:
A repeating rifle is a single barreled rifle containing multiple rounds of ammunition. These rounds are loaded from a magazine by means of a manual or automatic mechanism, and the action that reloads the rifle also typically recocks the firing action. The term repeating rifle is most often applied to weapons in which the next cartridge is loaded by a manual action, as opposed to Semi-automatic rifle, in which the force of one shot is used to load the next.

Semi-automatic rifle:
A semi-automatic rifle is a type of rifle that fires a single bullet each time the trigger is pulled, without the need manually to operate a bolt, lever, pump or other firing or loading mechanism.

Sniper Rifle:
In military and law enforcement terminology, a sniper rifle is a rifle used to ensure accurate placement of bullets at longer ranges than small arms. Additionally, for a rifle to be classified as a sniper rifle, not only does it have to be used to snipe, it must fire no more than 1MOA. For this reason, the M82, and M107 series rifles are not sniper rifles, they are designated SASR (Special Application Scoped Rifle). So by this definition, your heavy barreled sub MOA deer rifle is not a sniper rifle.

Assault weapon:
This is neither an accurate or real definition. If you are describing a rifle that looks like a military rifle, then it is either a military reproduction, or simply a semi-automatic rifle.

Assault rifle:
An assault rifle is a selective fire rifle or carbine firing ammunition with muzzle energies intermediate between those typical of pistol and high-powered rifle ammunition. There is much dissent when speaking about these firearms. The reason they were defined as assault rifles is because by their design and by using an intermediate caliber, they were intended for use during the assault phase of the attack, or counter assault phase of the defense. This does not mean that they were not or are not used during other phases, just that was what they were primarily designed for. Hence the name, assault rifle.

Battle Rifle:
A Battle Rifle or Main Battle Rifle is a full-size select fire or semi automatic rifle that fires a high-power rifle cartridge and is used in military service.



Now. The above rifles are all the same type of rifle. A Mini 14 with cosmetic changes only, they all fire the same caliber round, and as they are all semi automatic, and none of the gas tubes or internal parts have been changed, they all have the same rate of fire.

The first one is the bare bones wood stock rifle.

The second has a different stock (folding) and a muzzle compensator (it helps you deal with recoil).

The third only has a different stock, and a tapered barrel shroud (makes it look better and nothing more) and the barrel is a few inches shorter (I will get more into this later)

The last one once again has a different stock on it, with a scope, and another type of barrel shroud that makes it look larger, and falsely makes it look like it has a suppressor on it (it does not quiet the rifle at all).

The rifle in the first picture has the longest barrel, and in all actuality, is probably the most accurate because the longer the barrel (to a point) the higher the muzzle velocity.

Now, a few of you have stated that you own rifles that look like the first one. Well the good Brady bunch realized that you can make a "normal" rifle look like the other ones, and now they want to band your "normal" rifles.

This would include your bolt action rifles. Because inside of ten minutes and a few hundred dollars I can turn this.



Into this.


Both have the same mechanical parts, both have the same maximum effective range, and both fire the same caliber round.

[Ntypical]

Well, update for you guys.

A good friend of mine got orders to California. And was thinking that he couldn't take his tricked out M1A.
(this is not a picture of his rifle, but they are almost identical)

Instead of a scope he has a reflex sight, and no bipods.

Well he just found out that if he takes the stock off and puts the original wood stock on it, then he can take it with him to Cali.
(will look something like this, but with a shorter barrel)


Oh yeah, he also has to take the flash suppressor off of it.

It changes nothing about the functioning of the rifle, just makes it so it does not look as scary.

That is about worthless legislation IMHO.

[B'Elanna Torres 7 of 9]

Gun #1: BB Gun - you shoot pop cans and small targets posted on wood piles with

Gun #2: scary big gun they use in movies. The kind usually the bad guys have.

Gun #3: Another scary gun - perhaps one used in a video game like Rainbow 6 to shoot terrorists with (i dont play video games but i used to watch my ex-bf play)

Gun #4: hunting gun to shoot some sort of game. I'm thinking ducks

You asked to classify, and so i classified what first came to mind! There's a very personal classification for you! Hope that helps!

[Ntypical]

I take it that you did not read the rest of the thread. But thank you for your honest opinion.

[B'Elanna Torres 7 of 9]

no, i read it. i just decided to write what those guns were to me.

[Ntypical]

Ok cool. Do you care to become educated on the subject?

[B'Elanna Torres 7 of 9]

not in particular, nope

[Ntypical]

Very well. But I fail to see what is funny about willfully remaining ignorant in any subject.

[Arellia]

Perhaps because the classification of firearms doesn't affect the lives of some people. Some people don't even keep weapons. Me, I can effectively handle, clean, and identify calibers of basic pistols and rifles. I don't need to classify automatics or semi-automatics, I don't need to know a lot about scopes and other modifications, because all I need is a 38 caliber pistol for home protection and the occasional trip to the shooting range. Nothing more. My father, on the other hand, collects weapons. It's really fun to go shooting with all the different things he has, and he knows a lot about them because it's important to him. That is also fine. I just don't need to have the same depth of knowledge as him.

[Theresa]

I kind of thought it was more about the principle of the situation than the weapons themselves. I could be completely wrong, though. It has happened before,

[Valathous]

[Lord Borg]

[B'Elanna Torres 7 of 9]

[Ntypical]

First and foremost my statement about remaining willfully ignorant was not an insult. It was not being critical, it was a simple statement based on fact. If I were to enter a thread about any of the subjects that you are interested in and then tell you that I had no interest in learning about them, then I would not take offense if you responded as I did in my last post, and I would not try to make light of a hobby or trade that you are passionate about.

Yes, I understand that this is not a firearms forum. It was just an attempt at educating those who are not educated in this subject so that maybe they can make a more informed opinion at some point later in life.

Up until a few years ago I never had to know anything about petroleum engineering, and never planned on getting out of the Corps, but I sure am glad that I started studying it years ago. I never thought that there would be a time where I needed half of what I know. But most of what I have learned has came in very handy during my short 30 plus years on this rock.

Life is dynamic, and things change. We never know what situation we will be in tomorrow, next week, next month or next year, so is it not better to learn as much as we can now even though there is little chance that we will ever use that information?

[Ntypical]

[Ntypical]