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Puck
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[quote="squiggy"] | Arellia wrote: | Many people don't understand how difficult a life for a child with Down Syndrome, or Autism is like.
Especially when their' parents DEMAND they fit in, which is something NO Child with Down Syndrome can do, and very few children with Autism can pull off.
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My cousin has autism and is one of the most wonderful children I have ever met. He does need more help in school, and has social problems, but so what, we all love him immensely.
Since when do we have the right to kill babies because they will not fit in like society and or parents demand. Sheesh, by that logic, gays have the same problem. Maybe it would have been better if we had all just been aborted. 
And yes, it is an evil thing.
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Arellia
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I personally don't think it's fair to have a kid with down syndrome... I see autism as a different thing, myself, since many autistic people are incredibly brilliant. I'm not saying that everyone who finds out during amniocentesis that their child has an extra chromosome should have an abortion... but I do believe that any woman should be able to have an abortion for whatever reason before it starts crossing into partial-birth abortion deals.
However, this really doesn't have a lot to do with Sarah Palin, just another spin on the usual abortion argument. I move to either start a new topic (if someone is so compelled... not me) or continue with emphasis on Palin >.>
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I'm sitting here watching the Governor speak after a wonderful, rousing speech by Rudy, and all I can say, in my excitement, is...
PALIN POWER!!!
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That was one of the most exciting speeches I have ever watched! Amazing! Great speech, fantastically-given, and, unlike Obama, all without a teleprompter! And the strength she showed in this speech after all the horrendous attacks against her and her family this week - wonderful. She's an awesome candidate for VP, and this speech was to Republicans what Obama's convention speech was to Democrats.
I'm more excited about the McCain-Palin ticket now than I've ever been about any campaign ever. Talk about energizing!
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my son has autism and i would not have an abortion. i am glad i had him. he is 14 now and he is very brillant. he knows alot about computers and games.
but back to the vp... i never heard of her. i should get into politics more lol.
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Interesting, yet key article, about the lies and deceptions being made about our next VP - including on the rumor that she supports teaching creationism in schools.
| Quote: | Top 7 Myths, Lies and Untruths About Sarah Palin
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has been subjected to an intense amount of media and public scrutiny since she was named as John McCain�s vice presidential pick one week ago. Many of the attacks have come in the form of unconfirmed reports on the Internet. Among them:
1) Palin �Joined a Secessionist Political Party�
The Charge: Unsubstantiated Internet reports insisted Palin was once a member of the Alaska Independence Party, which critics call a secessionist political movement and supporters say is dedicated to seeking greater state control over federal lands across Alaska.
The Facts: Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982. There is no record of her ever being a member of the AIP, or any party but the GOP. Palin�s husband has been a member of the AIP in the past, but since 2002 has been a registered independent.
(See: Party Official Says Palin Was Not a Member)
2) Palin Supported a �Nazi Sympathizer�
The Charge: �Palin was a supporter of Pat Buchanan, a right-winger or, as many Jews call him: a Nazi sympathizer,� Obama Florida spokesman Mark Bubriski was quoted as saying in a Miami Herald article.
The Facts: While mayor of Wasilla, Palin wore a Buchanan button during the sometimes presidential candidate�s 1999 visit. But Palin actually supported Steve Forbes in 2000, and served as a co-chair on his Alaska campaign.
In the weeks after the 1999 report of her wearing the Buchanan button, Palin said: �When presidential candidates visit our community, I am always happy to meet them. I�ll even put on their button when handed one as a polite gesture of respect. � The article may have left your readers with the perception that I am endorsing this candidate, as opposed to welcoming his visit to Wasilla.�
(See: Obama campaign advisor quote is from an e-mail sent to the Miami Herald )
3) Palin �Wants Creationism Taught in School�
The Charge: Palin opposes the teaching of evolution, and would mandate the teaching of creationism in the state�s public schools.
The Facts: Palin said during her 2006 gubernatorial campaign that she would not push the state Board of Education to add creation-based alternatives to the state�s required curriculum, or look for creationism advocates when she appointed board members. She has kept this pledge, according to the Associated Press.
Palin has spoken in favor of classroom discussions of creationism, in some cases. �I don�t think there should be a prohibition against debate if it comes up in class. It doesn�t have to be part of the curriculum,� Palin told the Anchorage Daily News in a 2006 interview.
(See: �Creation science� enters the race; Palin is only candidate to suggest it should be discussed in schools. By Tom Kizzia, Anchorage Daily News, 27 October 2006)
4) Palin �Was Nearly Recalled� While Mayor
The Charge: Palin was so controversial as mayor of Wasilla that she was almost recalled by a popular voter movement.
The Facts: The Wasilla City Council considered but never took up a recall motion after she fired a longtime police chief, who subsequently brought a lawsuit. A citizen�s group dropped their recall bid, and a judge ruled Palin had the authority to fire the chief.
(See: Foes Back Off Push to Recall Mayor)
5) Palin �Opposes Sex Education�
The Charge: Palin opponents say she supported the end of all sex education in public schools. In light of her daughter�s presumably unplanned teen pregnancy, this has been a particularly well discussed Internet topic.
The Facts: �The explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support,� Palin wrote in a 2006 questionnaire distributed among gubernatorial candidates. Palin favors abstinence-based sex education programs.
(See: McCain fought money on teen pregnancy programs, By Sharon Theimer, Associated Press, Sept. 2, 2008)
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I watched a couple of the Alaska gubernatorial debates. Joe Biden better not underestimate her; if he does, then he does so at his own peril.
And btw, for the first time since March, John McCain has overtaken Barack Obama in the RealClearPolitics.com average of polls - and not by .5, not by 1, but by 2.1 percentage points! Obama's descended rapidly over the last week, and that can probably be greatly attributed to Palin.
Now, yes, the polls themselves don't indicate who's going to win and are always in flux, and this is a close race. However, we can look at the trends in the polls over the last two weeks - the Obama surge in the polls following the Convention and his quick downfall after the GOP Convention - and notice that something substantial is going on. It gives us a good indication of where things are going. Plus, the average is a good way of examining the state of the race in general, as it has more credibility than a single poll itself.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html
EDIT: McCain is now ahead by 2.9 percentage points in the average.
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There's an interesting e-mail going around about Sarah Palin's national security credentials. This has been confirmed, as shown in the links below it.
| Quote: | Subject: Important info re: Palin's Nat. Secur. Cred
Just picked up some little known info on Palin's National Security Credentials. Some have shrugged off her position as Commander of the Alaskan National Guard but see this: "Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense system."
The 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks. It's on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units. As governor of Alaska, Palin is briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counterterrorism.
Her exposure to classified material may rival even Biden's. She's also the commander in chief of the Alaska State Defense Force (ASDF), a federally recognized militia incorporated into Homeland Security's counter-terrorism plans.
Palin is privy to military and intelligence secrets that are vital to the entire country's defense. Given Alaska's proximity to Russia, she may have security clearances we don't even know about.
According to the Washington Post, she first met with McCain in February, but nobody ever found out.
This is a woman used to keeping secrets.
She can be entrusted with our national security, because she already is."
http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/agency/49md.htm
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This is all fun to read--especially as an AK resident. I'd heard all of the rumors mentioned here, and was sure that they were mostly bunk, but it's nice to see some confirmation.
I might actually get out of bed to vote...
Though, just to be fair, I warn you that if she does, somehow, wind up as the President, she's going to continue her habit of getting Alaskans lots of money, proportionately so.
*Dreaming of a $15,000 PFD*
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Arellia
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The more I see of Sarah, the more comfortable I am with saying she doesn't know what she's talking about. Or, if she does, she's so abysmal as expressing complex ideas that it doesn't matter--a president is largely a figurehead, and as a figurehead, she should be able to communicate.
I honestly think a man who said things that she says, in the strange and incomprehensible way she says them, would be treated in a totally different way. People complain that she's attacked now, but I really think it's warranted--that and a little more. People are so afraid of being called sexist that they don't want to call her what she is. Even Biden held back much more than I wanted him too.
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Wow, Arellia, that's harsh, and I couldn't disagree more. Her presentation in the debate, for instance, was powerful and coherent. She did well and was remarkably confident given all the pressure on her, just like with her convention speech - so confident she even winked! Remarkable. You can't deny that.
It's so fascinating to watch partisans on both sides react to Biden's and Palin's respective performances; I've tried hard as I can to objectively look at both these debates, which is why I thought Obama benefited more from the first one and Palin from the second.
In fact, I wrote an analysis of the VP debate for this week's issue of my school paper, and I think it's rather fair and accurate. Here's what I said:
| Quote: | Palin passes test with flying colors, but not substance
The ratings were higher than ever before for a vice-presidential debate Thursday night, as Sen. Joe Biden and Gov. Sarah Palin went head-to-head in the most-watched VP debate in history, with 70 million viewers.
That�s 42% more viewership than the presidential debate the previous week, on Friday the 26th. Sen. John McCain and Sen. Barack Obama met in Mississippi for the first of three debates, and both candidates essentially reached a draw; McCain won on substance and slightly on skill but Obama benefited more from that exchange by accomplishing his goal of appearing as though he belonged on the stage.
But what about the more-watched Palin-Biden debate?
All about Palin
Just as the presidential debate was about the little-known, inexperienced and young Obama and whether or not he could hold his own, the veepstakes debate centered around Sarah Palin.
Since she burst onto the scene with lipstick flare in her speech at the Republican National Convention, questions abounded about her experience and readiness to be vice-president (�a heartbeat away from the presidency�).
Because of how few television interviews she did prior to the debate (three total) and her substandard performances in those exchanges, expectations for Palin were low. Conventional wisdom was that she would make a fool out of herself and the experienced Biden would tear her to shreds. As with her bid for governor, they underestimated Palin.
Her detractors clearly had not seen any of her debates in the primary or general election campaigns in Alaska, fantastic performances which allowed her to go on to win both the primary and the general by substantial margins.
The McCain-Palin campaign did little to combat conventional wisdom by continuing to hide her from the press and controlling her language. She was not allowed to be herself, and even conservatives, at first excited about the governor, were getting concerned.
Thursday night, however, that changed. Once again Palin was the shining star we saw at the convention. She spoke directly to the American people effectively and connected with the public. She was personable, folksy in her rhetoric (�say it ain�t so, Joe,� �doggonit�) and flowing in charm; even her substantive attacks seeped confidence with her smiles.
Her style was just what was needed to return the appeal that drew so much positive attention to the campaign when she was picked. And she was far more substantive and on the ball when it came to the issues than in her unflattering interviews.
In other words, she came back.
Biden wins on substance
But while Palin�s style connected with the public, the quality of her policy arguments were no match for Biden, who has been in the U.S. Senate since Richard Nixon was president. No one, not even her biggest fans, expected her to beat him out on substance. Right or wrong on the issues, Biden has command of them, and he exemplified that throughout the debate.
Biden has been known for making numerous gaffes on the campaign trail, recently stating that after the stock market crash of 1929, FDR gave a televised address to the American people. In fact, Hoover was president at the time, and TV was hardly around. Though he did make some factual innacuracies, Biden made no such gaffes; rather, he was disciplined and focused.
He pinned Palin on deregulation, healthcare and nuclear energy, for which, though she most certainly could have, she did not counter effectively.
While she artfully twisted questions around to suit her own purposes at a few different points, Palin was on message and drove home the key points she had to make, on taxes, on national security and, most importantly, on energy, her big issue. She sidestepped Biden�s attacks with folksy charm (�say it ain't so, Joe, there you go again pointing backwards again�). But agree with his positions or not, Biden spoke with forcefullness and with savvy. He won on policy.
Tallying up the score
Despite Biden�s substantive win, the debate was about Sarah Palin. 70 million people watched to see if she could hold her own and pass the test: and she did, with flying colors.
In a focus group of undecided voters conducted by political pollster Frank Luntz, who utilizes a system for measuring second-by-second responses of those who lean Republican and those who lean Democrat, the results were fascinating. Whereas Obama came out on top in the focus group for the first debate, a majority of the undecideds sided with Palin this time around.
According to Luntz, the only negative moment she had, when the dials went down, was in her opening answer. It was hard, he said, in the presidential debate to find clips when both sides were close on their dials, but with Palin that was not the case. She connected.
The Palin-Biden debate is reminiscent of the famous Nixon vs. Kennedy debate of 1960. No one doubted that Nixon�s arguments were far stronger and that he had a wealth of knowledge and experience Kennedy lacked, yet those who watched the debate felt that Kennedy won. He exuded confidence and charisma, appeal and connection with the public. And he won the election.
Palin did not achieve a Kennedy win, however. She had dexterity but lacked enough substantive strength to where she balanced, but did not beat, Biden�s argumentative skills. In that sense, it was a tie, but because the debate was about Palin, she came out on top, and McCain will benefit.
Palin gave McCain a second chance by adding a burst of much-needed positive energy to his campaign and disqualifying the �unqualified� accusation against Palin. Now the question is, will he expand that in Tuesday�s debate, or will Obama strengthen his lead? |
Personally, even though Biden beat her out on substance, she didn't do half bad, IMO, and showed proficiency on the issues. Where she scored most on the substance was in relating to the average American, "Joe Six Pack." I'd trust her over Obama as President any day.
And I'm sick and tired of these constant, bogus arguments that essentially turn Palin into the equivalent of a dumb blonde. It's utterly ridiculous and highly demeaning to this intelligent, successful woman. Honestly, I find it totally and completely offensive, and I am shocked and dismayed that you would participate in such degrading behavior.
EDIT: I disagree with him that it was an overwhelming Palin victory, but Dick Morris had some great insights on Thursday's debate when he went at it on H&C with Alan Colmes. As he says, she is an effective communicator, and she most certainly was Thursday night.
View the exchange here.
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She winked like 500 times during the debate--that's an overstatement, but she did keep on winking and winking and winking. My brother in law had to stop watching her because it was so distracting. I didn't find her performance remarkable--she had things she memorized and she said them. She didn't answer questions and flat-out said she wasn't going to answer the exact questions the moderator was asking her. She took the debate where she wanted to go. By my count she changed subjects during an answer no less than 27 times over the course of the debate.
I wasn't that impressed with Biden, he was dulled down a lot from what he usually can do in a debate. However, he was passable. Palin was passable. She didn't do something entirely stupid like she did during her interviews. Honestly. Who can't name a supreme court decision they disagree with and a newspaper they read regularly? Even if your only answer is "Dred Scot" and "The Times" at least it shows you paid attention back in college history. Who answers a question about the bailout with "Ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up the economy� Oh, it�s got to be about job creation too. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions.�for Americas.
And� trade, We�ve got to see trade as opportunity, not as a competitive scary thing. But 1 in 5 jobs being created in the trade sector today. We�ve got to look at that as more opportunity.All those things under the umbrella of job creation"
Not coherent. Not legible. I personally feel that any of my closest friends have a better grasp of economics and foreign policy than she does--let alone myself. At least my friends and I can talk like humans. I'd bet money that my IQ dwarfs hers. Does that sound condescending? No doubt. I'm willing to go out on a limb and be that "elitist" and "arrogant."
"One of the people" seems to be her counter to Obama's quiet intellect. Joe Sixpack, who is naturally the man everyone wants to run the country. She calls herself middle class, being worth 1.2 million... not only is the argument for a "regular person" in the whitehouse just silly to me, she's misrepresenting who she is. While I'm sure it gets her a lot of votes of people who are afraid of the liberal intellectuals, it gets her far fewer votes among the... oh, look at that. Intellectuals.
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Very harsh words on Palin again, but I'm going to respond by defering to Camille Paglia, a liberal feminist with a Ph.D. who supports Obama and writes for the left-wing website Salon.com. Here's her thoughts on Palin and he reaction to the attacks that she is, in essence, a "dummy."
| Quote: | es, both Todd and Sarah Palin, whom most people in the U.S. and abroad had never even heard of until six weeks ago, have emerged as powerful new symbols of a revived contemporary feminism. That the macho Todd, with his champion athleticism and working-class cred, can so amiably cradle babies and care for children is a huge step forward in American sexual symbolism.
Although nothing will sway my vote for Obama, I continue to enjoy Sarah Palin's performance on the national stage. During her vice-presidential debate last week with Joe Biden (whose conspiratorial smiles with moderator Gwen Ifill were outrageous and condescending toward his opponent), I laughed heartily at Palin's digs and slams and marveled at the way she slowly took over the entire event. I was sorry when it ended! But Biden wasn't -- judging by his Gore-like sighs and his slow sinking like a punctured blimp. Of course Biden won on points, but TV (a visual medium) never cares about that.
The mountain of rubbish poured out about Palin over the past month would rival Everest. What a disgrace for our jabbering army of liberal journalists and commentators, too many of whom behaved like snippy jackasses. The bourgeois conventionalism and rank snobbery of these alleged humanitarians stank up the place. As for Palin's brutally edited interviews with Charlie Gibson and that viper, Katie Couric, don't we all know that the best bits ended up on the cutting-room floor? Something has gone seriously wrong with Democratic ideology, which seems to have become a candied set of holier-than-thou bromides attached like tutti-frutti to a quivering green Jell-O mold of adolescent sentimentality.
And where is all that lurid sexual fantasy coming from? When I watch Sarah Palin, I don't think sex -- I think Amazon warrior! I admire her competitive spirit and her exuberant vitality, which borders on the supernormal. The question that keeps popping up for me is whether Palin, who was born in Idaho, could possibly be part Native American (as we know her husband is), which sometimes seems suggested by her strong facial contours. I have felt that same extraordinary energy and hyper-alertness billowing out from other women with Native American ancestry -- including two overpowering celebrity icons with whom I have worked.
One of the most idiotic allegations batting around out there among urban media insiders is that Palin is "dumb." Are they kidding? What level of stupidity is now par for the course in those musty circles? (The value of Ivy League degrees, like sub-prime mortgages, has certainly been plummeting. As a Yale Ph.D., I have a perfect right to my scorn.) People who can't see how smart Palin is are trapped in their own narrow parochialism -- the tedious, hackneyed forms of their upper-middle-class syntax and vocabulary.
As someone whose first seven years were spent among Italian-American immigrants (I never met an elderly person who spoke English until we moved from Endicott to rural Oxford, New York, when I was in first grade), I am very used to understanding meaning through what might seem to others to be outlandish or fractured variations on standard English. Furthermore, I have spent virtually my entire teaching career (nearly four decades) in arts colleges, where the expressiveness of highly talented students in dance, music and the visual arts takes a hundred different forms. Finally, as a lover of poetry (my last book was about that), I savor every kind of experimentation with standard English -- beginning with Shakespeare, who was the greatest improviser of them all at a time when there were no grammar rules.
Many others listening to Sarah Palin at her debate went into conniptions about what they assailed as her incoherence or incompetence. But I was never in doubt about what she intended at any given moment. On the contrary, I was admiring not only her always shapely and syncopated syllables but the innate structures of her discourse -- which did seem to fly by in fragments at times but are plainly ready to be filled with deeper policy knowledge, as she gains it (hopefully over the next eight years of the Obama presidencies). This is a tremendously talented politician whose moment has not yet come. That she holds views completely opposed to mine is irrelevant.
Even if she disappears from the scene forever after a McCain defeat, Palin will still have made an enormous and lasting contribution to feminism. As I said in my last column, Palin has made the biggest step forward in reshaping the persona of female authority since Madonna danced her dominatrix way through the shattered puritan barricades of the feminist establishment. In 1990, in a highly controversial New York Times op-ed that attacked old-guard feminist ideology, I declared that "Madonna is the future of feminism" -- a prophecy that was ridiculed at the time but that turned out to be quite true. Madonna put pro-sex feminism on the international map.
But it is now 18 years later -- the span of an entire generation. The instabilities and diminishments for young women raised in an increasingly shallow media environment have become all too obvious. I had grown up in a vibrant pop culture with glorious women stars of voluptuous sensuality -- above all Elizabeth Taylor, sewn into that silky white slip as the vixen Manhattan call girl of "Butterfield 8." In college, I feasted on foreign films starring sexual sophisticates like Jeanne Moreau, Anouk Aim�e and Catherine Deneuve. Sex today, however, has become brittle and superficial. Except for the occasional diverting flash of Lindsay Lohan's borrowed bosom, I see nothing whatever that is worth a second glance. Pro-sex feminism has worked itself out and, like all movements, has degenerated into clich�s. And even Madonna, with her skeletal megalomania, looks like a refugee from a horror movie.
The next phase of feminism must circle back and reappropriate the ancient persona of the mother -- without losing career ambition or power of assertion. Betty Friedan, who had first attacked the cult of postwar domesticity, had long warned second-wave feminists such as Gloria Steinem about the damaging exclusion of homemakers from their value system. The animus of liberal feminists toward religion must also end (I am speaking as an atheist). Feminism must reexamine all of its assumptions, including its death grip on abortion, if it wishes to survive.
The hysterical emotionalism and eruptions of amoral malice at the arrival of Sarah Palin exposed the weaknesses and limitations of current feminism. But I am convinced that Palin's bracing mix of male and female voices, as well as her grounding in frontier grit and audacity, will prove to be a galvanizing influence on aspiring Democratic women politicians too, from the municipal level on up. Palin has shown a brand-new way of defining female ambition -- without losing femininity, spontaneity or humor. She's no pre-programmed wonk of the backstage Hillary Clinton school; she's pugnacious and self-created, the product of no educational or political elite -- which is why her outsider style has been so hard for media lemmings to comprehend. And by the way, I think Tina Fey's witty impersonations of Palin have been fabulous. But while Fey has nailed Palin's cadences and charm, she can't capture the energy, which is a force of nature.
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I wasn't aware that you're now into feminism. I have to agree, that on many feminist principles, she's a great person. On many other common feminist principles, she doesn't fit the description. Her getting to the vice presidency while being a woman doesn't impress a lot of people--not me. Hillary didn't really impress me with her gender either. Gender, when we're talking about policies and presidents, is not relevant to the ability to govern.
I can find Ph.D.'s that agree with me too. Stuart Fischoff, Ph.D. is Senior Editor of the Journal of Media Psychology and Emeritus Professor of Media Psychology at Cal State, Los Angeles.
| Quote: | But if substance carried the day last night, then Biden may have come off the winner. Scratch that! Not maybe -- he did! But to whom? How far and deep does substance go into the cortical viscera of the American electorate? Palin or her advisers know it's one thing to reanimate your anxious base and truly amuse your audience but it's another thing to persuade the vaunted undecided (who are these people?) to decide. Some early polling suggests Undecideds were more impressed with Biden than Palin. Substance hearers speak! (Can we clone them?) Whether this was a trend or merely a rogue moment, a maverick sample, will become clearer as the games continue through November 3rd.
Watching her perform last night, one can surely understand how Governor Palin charms her Alaskan voters. She makes sense at a gut level; an uninspected gut level to be sure, but a gut level nonetheless. She fills in with metalanguage, with intonation, with camera savvy what she voids in specifics. And conservative America seems truly smitten with both guts and gut levels. Sarah is a child of the media age with glib gab and glamour. And she plays an instrument, just like A Face in the Crowd's Lonesome Rhodes
Lest we forget, Sarah's 80% Governor favorability rate means something. Maybe only a politician's elective opaqueness, but it means enough to stop and pay attention and not simply be smug about the Lady Governor, a �tude to which so many pundits on MSNBC regrettably seem to be disposed. Lonesome Rhodes was underestimated too. Will the lower 48 vibrate to the same Palin projections when they enter the voting booth next month? If they do then we'll likely have that Palin-McCain ticket she mentioned a few weeks ago drive that Straight Talk Express right into the Oval Office. |
http://www.startrekvoyager.com/posting.php?mode=reply&t=27924
I'm not going to apologize for being harsh. I think people would be a lot more harsh on her if her name were, say, Dan Quayle, or Joe Biden. Would you honestly stay silent if it was Joe Biden saying exactly the things she says, or would you point out things similar to mine? You see, I don't think she's 100% dumb, she has to have some modicum of intelligence, but she's not the "best and brightest." Not unless she's hiding it really well--which means she is pandering to the anti-intellectuals in the country, which is equally sad and destructive. Although that would mean she was a lot smarter than she looks. Manipulation is an art.
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