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Coyote_finn Freshman Cadet
Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 9
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Fri Feb 06, 2004 10:57 pm And the Universal Translator |
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Right, I speak a little Irish and some german.
I know for a fact that you cannot think in Irish the same way as thinking in english.
My brother speaks fluent Japanese
The language does not allow for certain expressions etc. There are things in Japanese and chinese that do not translate into english. Jokes, metaphors etc.
So why does the universal translator work?
It just could not, a permanent literal translation would make no sense half the time, a permanent translation into plain language is unfeasable.
People have studied chinese literature for centuries, they have studied latin for longer. You still cannot get it exactly right, the only way to really understand is to be bi-lingual.
Even then, you can only really say 'well that means that, but in a different way.'
This is just on this planet, htf does it work with alien races who have an entirely different planet, outlook, technology etc?
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IntrepedII Captain
Joined: 21 Jun 2002 Posts: 1476 Location: Belgium
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Sat Feb 07, 2004 1:33 pm |
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basicly its a computer that tries to make sence out of the alien language using a vast database of alien languages
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Captain Dappet Forum Revolutionist
Joined: 06 Feb 2002 Posts: 16756 Location: On my supersonic rocket ship.
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Sat Feb 07, 2004 3:04 pm |
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It doesnt work, as its just a TV-Show.
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CaptJD Disyple
Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 2699 Location: Canada!
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Sat Feb 07, 2004 3:08 pm |
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But if it really worked it may work the same way as the one I have on my computer, it doesn't make direct translation it analyses the sentence then translates it. So it comes out not as a direct translation but in a way that you can understand the meaning.
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Coyote_finn Freshman Cadet
Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 9
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Mon Feb 09, 2004 8:33 pm |
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so basically it does not work, or could not work
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Starfleet #327 Captain
Joined: 27 Aug 2003 Posts: 526 Location: Australia
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Tue Feb 10, 2004 3:13 am |
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They have allready Made some UT's for use in the Army.
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Monkey Captain
Joined: 05 Feb 2004 Posts: 833 Location: On a quest you probably wouldn't believe.
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Wed Mar 31, 2004 6:57 am |
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no they have worldly traslators not universel uhhh. SIR!
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Dracojastin Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 102 Location: Holodeck 2 NL
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Sun May 21, 2006 6:53 pm |
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I think the coolest part of the universal translator is that it syncs the lips of the aliens aswell
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PrankishSmart Rear Admiral
Joined: 29 Apr 2002 Posts: 4779 Location: Hobart, Australia.
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Mon May 22, 2006 4:31 am |
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^Not to mention somehow mutes their language their actually suposed to be speaking
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Mon May 22, 2006 6:01 am |
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Hoshi Sato is brilliant. She invented a Universal Translator that makes no mistakes.
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Dracojastin Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 102 Location: Holodeck 2 NL
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Mon May 22, 2006 5:44 pm |
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PrankishSmart wrote: | ^Not to mention somehow mutes their language their actually suposed to be speaking |
And if klingons say p'tag it doesn't translate
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Voyager2004 Commodore
Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2070 Location: Silverdale, WA
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Tue May 23, 2006 10:43 pm |
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Dracojastin wrote: | PrankishSmart wrote: | ^Not to mention somehow mutes their language their actually suposed to be speaking |
And if klingons say p'tag it doesn't translate |
It's spelled P'Tak.
But I think that it could translate, but that Trek likes to have the alien words thrown in there. I like the word P'Tak. It's just cool to say.
Because it's been clearly stated that "Ka'plah" (I dunno how it's spelled, I'm guessing) "good luck." or slight variations of that. Mostly meaning "Good Luck." But it is always said in the Klingon words.
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Dracojastin Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 102 Location: Holodeck 2 NL
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Wed May 24, 2006 9:19 am |
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^ well i'm not so good with the klingon language
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Voyager2004 Commodore
Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2070 Location: Silverdale, WA
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Wed May 24, 2006 7:53 pm |
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Dracojastin wrote: | ^ well i'm not so good with the klingon language |
LOL...it's cool. haha...
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Dracojastin Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 102 Location: Holodeck 2 NL
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5thhouse Rear Admiral
Joined: 05 May 2002 Posts: 3842 Location: Santa Barbara, California
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:05 pm |
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The way I understood the UT it read brain waves and found comparable frequencies and then used the expressions that went with those comparable frequencies and that is how it could be truly universal and didn't really have languages 'programmed' into it.
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madlilnerd Duchess of Dancemat
Joined: 03 Aug 2004 Posts: 5885 Location: Slough, England
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:03 pm |
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It would make more sense if they just had language chips emplanted in their brain which allowed them to speak a number of languages instantly.
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The Extreme Ensign
Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 51 Location: Above the rest
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Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:57 pm |
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People who make subtitles for films, can make a foreign language understandable for the audience right? The UT works just the same way, only there are no brains involved only chips.
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Admiral Dani�l Dutch Admiral
Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 2177 Location: Borg Cube 31572 - Join us now!
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:43 am |
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Omg Klingon google i only know how to use it cause i know where the buttons stand... STRANGE
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deltaflyer3 Lieutenant
Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 137
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Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:19 am |
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i think its just a data base with all none langueges
since alllangueges have a comin tone
when they come across a new languege they run it through that and find out the closest ones and work from there
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