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Za Za Zoom
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 Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:31 am Questions Regarding American Music Licensing... |
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Since yet another excellent TV show (Dark Skies) is cast out into limbo and not onto DVD due to music royalties, while at the same time the court antics of the RIAA are absurd even by US corporate standards, does anyone else think that the convoluted, archaic and greedy music licensing in the US needs to be changed? I have a few questions:
1) Who founded the RIAA, who really runs it and do they have the welfare of artists they supposedly represent at heart?
2) While not necessarily to do with the RIAA, it sounds weird that many TV shows in America are allowed music content in their initial broadcast, yet they are barred by another (extortionate) music licensing tariff if they need a DVD release and their musical content could be edited out all together in reruns. Why is this?
3) Why is music royalties so jealously guarded by the RIAA, even in the face of overwhelming Internet coverage and people naturally sharing music products or downloads?
4) Why are US music royalties so intolerable, when even big companies like Sony cannot comfortably pay them over a DVD release?
5) What is the most idiotic litigation charge the RIAA has levied against the public?
6) Is music licensing so idiotic in Canada, Britain and the rest of the Free World or (as usual) America is caught behind it's peers in yet another case of US capitalist/legalist institutional idiocy?
7) In crippling sections of the DVD industry and throwing a massive *beep* fit over MP3 downloads, is the US music industry painting itself into a corner and ironically encouraging entertainment piracy of all kinds through their harsh methods?
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Sarah Connor
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| Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:49 pm |
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Well I can answer some eeeer.. one
2 is because they pay for the song to be allowed to have it broadcasted. Most of the time that contract only lasts for 1 episode, and to get it is rather pricey.
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Morphy
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| Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:45 am |
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I think US copyright laws should be rewritten to be a little more consumer friendly. I believe copyright holders deserve protection, however I don't they should be allowed to gorge people for every penny they have. The Dark Skies's lack of availability is an example of how consumers lose under current law.
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squiggy
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| Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:43 pm |
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3) Why is music royalties so jealously guarded by the RIAA, even in the face of overwhelming Internet coverage and people naturally sharing music products or downloads?
4) Why are US music royalties so intolerable, when even big companies like Sony cannot comfortably pay them over a DVD release?
5) What is the most idiotic litigation charge the RIAA has levied against the public?
6) Is music licensing so idiotic in Canada, Britain and the rest of the Free World or (as usual) America is caught behind it's peers in yet another case of US capitalist/legalist institutional idiocy?
7) In crippling sections of the DVD industry and throwing a massive *beep* fit over MP3 downloads, is the US music industry painting itself into a corner and ironically encouraging entertainment piracy of all kinds through their harsh methods?
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3)It's called 'the law', SOMEONE has to defend it.
4)US Music Loyalties have BECOME intolerable BECAUSE of internet file sharing issues.
5)The most idiotic piece of stuff filed against the public was when they temporarily shut down thepiratebay.org, even though they had no jurisdiction, or legal right to invade switzerland.
6)Yes, Canada, Great Britain, Russia, and China all have severly obscure music loyalty laws
7)Of course they arrrrr.((Sorry, bad joke.)) The entertainment/music industry has been doing it ever since they made things 'easier to use' by making CDs writable, or MP3 recording programs. One company attempted to sell thier products this way... it didn't work. Infact, it blew up in thier' face.
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Za Za Zoom
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| Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:24 am |
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| squiggy wrote: |
3)It's called 'the law', SOMEONE has to defend it. |
Many critics have criticized the RIAA and the rest of the US music industry for being crooks in gouging out both the consumers, entertainment industry and artists they supposedly represent. They don't care about the law or consumer welfare, just money.
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4)US Music Loyalties have BECOME intolerable BECAUSE of internet file sharing issues. |
They must've been rectum-holes before the mass media became much more invasive and available, with them falling out of the loop in keeping up with technology.
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7)Of course they arrrrr.((Sorry, bad joke.)) The entertainment/music industry has been doing it ever since they made things 'easier to use' by making CDs writable, or MP3 recording programs. One company attempted to sell thier products this way... it didn't work. Infact, it blew up in thier' face. |
I have no pity for the US music industry and trying enforce music protection laws that are three to four decades out of date - there is no reason for any major TV show made after 1995 to be blocked from having a legitimate DVD release due just to their music content and it is running the entertainment industry into the ground. How is postponing a popular show like Dark Skies anything to do with protecting music rights? Infact it is causing a lot of damage to both the music industry itself and consumer public, when they're aggressively curbing music promotion in TV shows, on the Internet and the rest of the public domain.
Like I said, it is their fault for not keeping up with digital media developments and they're lumbering dinosaurs now, mindlessly trampling over the entertainment industry and consumer public. Far too many decent shows have been prevented or slowed down from having a DVD release and it is a USA thing - if Ally McBeal has been widely available on legitimate DVD in Europe for many years, despite it's music content, but has been unavailable in Region 1 exactly because of that, then something is obviously very, very wrong with American music licensing (I honestly don't know why you mentioned China, since they don't care at all and the RIAA trying to shut down a popular webpage in a soveign country is obviously illegal as any pirate operation they're trying to stop).
Simple maths numpty: TV Show + Silly Music Licensing + Not on Legitimate DVD = Get TV Show Through Internet Download or on Pirate DVD 
The tighter they hold onto their music content, the more money and consumers slip through their fingers through their lack of basic compromise...
Last edited by Za Za Zoom on Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:28 am; edited 1 time in total
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PrankishSmart
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| Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:22 pm |
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It's all motivated out of money. Thats all it is. Copyright is a very small part of the picture IMO.
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Za Za Zoom
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| Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:40 am |
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| PrankishSmart wrote: | | It's all motivated out of money. Thats all it is. Copyright is a very small part of the picture IMO. |
Yeah, but even from a cynical business point of view you cannot defend their idiotic actions - in Dark Skies' case it boils down to Sony Entertainmeny being a bunch of stingy, shortsighted morons and the music industry being greedy pigs that are painting themselves into a corner by demanding too much. Many Jeri Ryan and Eric Close fans would've bought Dark Skies on DVD worldwide, while the record comapanies would win by having 1950s and 60s music getting a wide promotion in a major DVD release. And the RIAA arguably is doing more damage to the record industry than piracy ever would, by not compromising and ruthlessly preying on the public, alienating many potential customers...
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