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Otter
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Location: England
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 Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:18 am STV - End Game... |
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is this the end?
can't the site change to make a comeback?
comments please?
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Seven of Nine
Sammie's Mammy
Joined: 16 Jun 2001
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Location: North East England
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| Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:03 pm |
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The problem isn't the site so much as the lack of an active television series or film at the moment. The truly dedicated haven't left.
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squiggy
Stooge Two
Joined: 09 Mar 2004
Posts: 3007
Location: Messing with the fabric of Video Game realities. I'll summon Shiva on you! I SWEAR!
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| Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:39 pm |
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NOR WILL WE! LONG LIVE STAR TREK! LONG LIVE STAR TREK! EVERYBODY NOW!
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Hitchhiker
Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004
Posts: 3514
Location: Ontario, Canada
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| Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:52 pm |
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Why does this look like the end?
I'm not going anywhere. I'm sure others will say the same. It might be a little slow, but that can happen. I'm rather busy with end-of-the-school-year at the moment. Others are probably getting ready for their annual bid to break a world record.
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Lord Borg
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Location: Vulcan Capital City, Vulcan
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| Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:31 pm |
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I don't think it's due to a lack of an active series, or movie, ever taken a look at TrekBBS? or BSS...something like that... that site is busy all the time. I think that the problem is, many people have moved on, the few that remain, that is that were year when it started, or shortly after if they speak, its on MSN or something.
Maybe some sort of change or something could be useful, I don't know, in short the site isnt really "dead".
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Andi McDougal
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 13 Apr 2007
Posts: 93
Location: York, PA
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| Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:40 pm |
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Dunno if it counts or not, but...I'M STILL HERE! LOL
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Theresa
Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001
Posts: 27256
Location: United States of America
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| Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:00 pm |
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| Seven of Nine wrote: | | The problem isn't the site so much as the lack of an active television series or film at the moment. The truly dedicated haven't left. |
I agree. Many things have virtually been "talked out". This site wasn't around back when TNG and DS9 were on, and it came very near the end of VOY, so there wasn't ample time to build a big core base like other sites. Not to mention most of STV's members were merely children when they joined.
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TrekkieMage
Office Junkie
Joined: 17 Oct 2004
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Location: Hiding
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| Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:22 pm |
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I think it's a combination of things. T has a really good point about the timing of STV - it was starting up as the Trek community was calming down a bit (there was a big burst of Trek when TNG was ending, DS9 was going, VOY was starting, and ST:FC was coming out), and I know I was only 16 or so when I first logged on.
But since ENT kind of fizzled out, and the new movie hasn't produced much dirt, there isn't much to help spark a larger member base here.
We're also not totally gone, there are still people who are just learning about Trek, and there is a strong community here - even if it isn't as big as it used to be.
I think that when XI comes out there will be a surge of discussions, debates, and ideas.
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Founder
Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
Posts: 12755
Location: Gamma Quadrant
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| Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:33 am |
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| Lord Borg wrote: | I don't think it's due to a lack of an active series, or movie, ever taken a look at TrekBBS? or BSS...something like that... that site is busy all the time. I think that the problem is, many people have moved on, the few that remain, that is that were year when it started, or shortly after if they speak, its on MSN or something.
Maybe some sort of change or something could be useful, I don't know, in short the site isnt really "dead". |
I agree with Chris, here.
I used to think it was because of lack of activitiy in Trek, but that's not really the truth or it doesn't appear to be. I went to other Trek forums and there is a LOT of activity over there, despite Trek being on a hiatus.
So, now that we're back to square one, I don't understand what the problem is, nor what the solution is. However, the site had winded down a lot since I last joined. I don't know if it's the timing of the Trek series or what, but I do think STV could use a resurgence. For some reason, people are against it because they're comfortable with what we have now. Oh well.
STV isn't really dead, just in a coma, I'd say.
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Jeanna
Ensign, Junior Grade
Joined: 20 May 2007
Posts: 34
Location: Illinois
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| Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:33 am |
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The Forums aren't dead. just need more advertisement. I only found out about this place when i was doing searching to try and get more members for a Forum based RPG i go to.
Plus i think all star trek places are at a llow point for a bit. But i don't think it's cause of a Lack in series on televisions. I think it's because as someone else said it's the beginning of Summer. Many people are out enjoying their time off from college, or school,
Perhaps have it posted at some voting sites and such. i can make ya some nifty banners for advertising at different places if need be. I love making pretty banners!
Just give me a hollor if i can help out with anything to help make it more out there or popular. I'm also good with Html and CSS...
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Otter
Fleet Admiral
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Posts: 12895
Location: England
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| Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:00 am |
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good responce people.
indeed trek maybe sleeping for now and some users may have moved on But Startrekvoyager.com I beleave could attract new blood by introducing a new appearance on site.
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Andi McDougal
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 13 Apr 2007
Posts: 93
Location: York, PA
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| Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:51 am |
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| Jeanna wrote: | I only found out about this place when i was doing searching to try and get more members for a Forum based RPG i go to.
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One of my coworkers stumbled onto this site and told me about it.
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harrykims#1fan
Fan Girl Muskateer
Joined: 08 Feb 2002
Posts: 2916
Location: Leicester UK
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| Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:23 pm |
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| Theresa wrote: | | Not to mention most of STV's members were merely children when they joined. |
Agreed, I was 14 when i joined up...I'm almost 20 now I've been here 5 Years and even back in the day there were quiet periods so why worry, there's always stuff to talk about! 
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Puck
The Texan
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Posts: 5596
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| Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:28 pm |
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It's my opinion that the site is slow because of lack of new Trek things. StarTrek.com appears to be having the same issue (they have had less traffic lately). I agree a new look would be nice though.
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B'Elanna Torres 7 of 9
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Joined: 20 Aug 2001
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| Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:58 pm |
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This is bound to happen with all things and fads!! Star Trek in general just needs new stuff to get an audience excited about it again. Till then, those of us current fans can chillax together and enjoy on another's company. You know, this sort of this will happen with Harry Potter once the last book comes out. There will be lots to talk about, but then they hype will die down. That's just the way it goes.
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Lord Borg
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Location: Vulcan Capital City, Vulcan
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| Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:03 pm |
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| Puck wrote: | | It's my opinion that the site is slow because of lack of new Trek things. StarTrek.com appears to be having the same issue (they have had less traffic lately). I agree a new look would be nice though. |
In defense of that, I find StarTrek.com difficult to navigate. This along other things (Not counting Treks..."decline") can lead to an explanation as to why that site has a decline in traffic.
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Theresa
Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001
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Location: United States of America
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| Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:35 pm |
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| Lord Borg wrote: | | Puck wrote: | | It's my opinion that the site is slow because of lack of new Trek things. StarTrek.com appears to be having the same issue (they have had less traffic lately). I agree a new look would be nice though. |
In defense of that, I find StarTrek.com difficult to navigate. This along other things (Not counting Treks..."decline") can lead to an explanation as to why that site has a decline in traffic. |
Could you elaborate on that? I've found that pretty much the only thing Startrek.com doesn't do is click the links for you.
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robbiewebster
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Location: Rochester, New York
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| Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:48 pm |
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I really like this forum. I don't see myself ever leaving. There will eventually be new series and movies.
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Founder
Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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Location: Gamma Quadrant
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| Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:08 pm |
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| Otter wrote: | good responce people.
indeed trek maybe sleeping for now and some users may have moved on But Startrekvoyager.com I beleave could attract new blood by introducing a new appearance on site. |
Did you have a specific idea on that? Not that I have any control over the site layout, but I am curious as to ideas for changes on the site. Often, people suggest a change to the site's look, but they don't see what it is.
On another note on the same subject, I still don't agree that it's because of the "hiatus" in Trek. No other forum has seen a decline as STV has, not from what I've seen at least. I have a question, does anyone remember when the decline occured? If we could trace it back then, then maybe we can see what happened.
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Puck
The Texan
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| Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:32 pm |
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I think it's important to remember those two huge periods of time this site was down. I'm not saying this site was ever huge...but I feel a lot of people who were here lost their interest/habit of frequenting this site during those periods.
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Lord Borg
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| Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:06 pm |
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| Puck wrote: | | I think it's important to remember those two huge periods of time this site was down. I'm not saying this site was ever huge...but I feel a lot of people who were here lost their interest/habit of frequenting this site during those periods. |
You do have a point there, Puck, there have been several periods of down time, and massive unrealibity, causing some people to loose interest in the site, and depart.
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Founder
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Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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Location: Gamma Quadrant
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| Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:17 pm |
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| Puck wrote: | | I think it's important to remember those two huge periods of time this site was down. I'm not saying this site was ever huge...but I feel a lot of people who were here lost their interest/habit of frequenting this site during those periods. |
Excellant point. I think that is when the activity went downhill. At least, I think that is what lost us tons of older members. The site didn't come back for so long that htey probably assumed STV was officially dead. However, that doesn't explain why we haven't gain that many NEW members.
It might be because of the Voyager part. Perhaps other fans think that this is a VOY only site and it's off-putting. Then again, it wasn't always off-putting. I don't know. This is all a bit confusing... 
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Lord Borg
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| Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:20 pm |
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Advertising might help to, and also, having something for members to do, perhaps discussions on many things then just star trek? Why not a BSG area, no seriously, that's got a big market atm. Maybe a redisgin in the site colors, or perhaps some sort of interactivity? There's several options to pursue here.
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When you cried I'd wipe away all of your tears
When you'd scream I'd fight away all of your fears
And I held your hand through all of these years
But you still have
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Theresa
Lux Mihi Deus
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Posts: 27256
Location: United States of America
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| Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:10 pm |
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| Theresa wrote: | | Lord Borg wrote: | | Puck wrote: | | It's my opinion that the site is slow because of lack of new Trek things. StarTrek.com appears to be having the same issue (they have had less traffic lately). I agree a new look would be nice though. |
In defense of that, I find StarTrek.com difficult to navigate. This along other things (Not counting Treks..."decline") can lead to an explanation as to why that site has a decline in traffic. |
Could you elaborate on that? I've found that pretty much the only thing Startrek.com doesn't do is click the links for you. |
The bolding is me adding to my post, this part is only being said so that this post cannot be misconstrued as spam.
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Otter
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| Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:27 am |
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| Founder wrote: | | Otter wrote: | good responce people.
indeed trek maybe sleeping for now and some users may have moved on But Startrekvoyager.com I beleave could attract new blood by introducing a new appearance on site. |
Did you have a specific idea on that? Not that I have any control over the site layout, but I am curious as to ideas for changes on the site. Often, people suggest a change to the site's look, but they don't see what it is.
On another note on the same subject, I still don't agree that it's because of the "hiatus" in Trek. No other forum has seen a decline as STV has, not from what I've seen at least. I have a question, does anyone remember when the decline occured? If we could trace it back then, then maybe we can see what happened. |
re layout
dunno realy.. new skin perhaps or new forums.
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