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CJ Cregg
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PostThu May 17, 2007 10:55 am    War-torn Iraq 'facing collapse'

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Iraq faces the distinct possibility of collapse and fragmentation, UK foreign policy think tank Chatham House says.

Its report says the Iraqi government is now largely powerless and irrelevant in many parts of the country.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6663935.stm


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PostThu May 17, 2007 5:34 pm    

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In my judgment, we can still achieve our objective of: a stable Iraq, at peace with its neighbors, not producing weapons of mass destruction, and fully committed to a law-based government. The courage and strength of the US Armed Forces still gives us latitude and time to build the economic and political conditions that might defuse the ongoing civil war. Our central purpose is to allow the nation to re-establish governance based on some loose federal consensus among the three major ethnic-factional actors. (Shia, Sunni, Kurd.)

After-Action Report, General Barry R. McCaffrey, Adjunct Professor of International Affairs, USMA, West Point, NY

http://iraqsinconvenienttruth.com/Gen_McCaffrey_Report_032707_Iraq.pdf



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PostThu May 17, 2007 10:03 pm    

Lovely how one can find a quotation to back up pretty much any opinion, eh?

Equally lovely is how neither of these quotations actually say anything, and in fact, some of them downright just state the obvious.

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Iraq faces the distinct possibility of collapse and fragmentation

No, really? I'd never have noticed that if you hadn't pointed it out. I'm so glad we have think tanks around to reveal this shocking information.

If we're going to sling quotations back and forth, at least pick good ones! I'd rather hear what these so-called authorities have to say about how to fix the situation, not more name-calling, blaming, and griping about the current state of the country.

I'm very ignorant and ill-informed, but I do believe that there was an "Iraq Study Group" commissioned by the Bush administration to recommend what to do in Iraq. Didn't Bush end up ignoring them?


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PostThu May 17, 2007 11:07 pm    

I picked my quote to sum up an alternative position from a highly-qualified general that we can still win, but that report is chock full of analysis on the good and bad about Iraq, and really well-developed. Check it out.


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