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Wolc Freshman Cadet
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Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:49 pm How realistic is Star Trek? |
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Guys, how realistic is trek anyway? I mean, we got nanotech prancing on our doorstep and they'r still baseline.
What gives?!
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Hitchhiker Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 3514 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:22 pm |
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Baseline? I'm sorry, but your post doesn't make much sense. I don't blame Roddenberry for not accurately foreseeing how far technology would come since the '60s.
Back in the '60s they hadn't had much experience with nanotechnology, to use your example. I don't quite see how we can fault them for that . . . admittedly the technology in Trek has not aged well in some circumstances, however in some instances their technology is quite amazing (those psychic doors, for example).
In later series the writers have taken pains to be more realistic, or at least more accurate when it comes to the science behind the technology, and it has improved as our own understanding of science improves.
Star Trek is not that realistic, but it wasn't designed to be realistic. It was designed to be a vehicle for social commentary and to explore the nature of the human condition.
The original Trek series certainly wasn't realistic (heck, let's not even try pretending--after all, how many times was the Enterprise nearly destroyed because some malcontent was able to open a random panel in an unguarded corridor and pull out a fuse?). However, it was potent enough to spawn six feature movies of the original cast and four spin-off series.
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robbiewebster Rear Admiral
Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 2594 Location: Rochester, New York
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:55 pm |
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There are a lot of things that probably aren't very realistic in Star Trek. But I love it anyways, and that will never change.
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PrankishSmart Rear Admiral
Joined: 29 Apr 2002 Posts: 4779 Location: Hobart, Australia.
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:55 am |
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In all honesty, it's not really realistic at all. But neither is sci-fi in general, is it? With that said, Trek is one of the more realistic Sci-Fi�s. There is a LOT of scientific theories on various technologies. Check out ditl.org.
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TrekkieMage Office Junkie
Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 5335 Location: Hiding
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:25 pm |
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^ I actually think I'd have to disagree with that after watching Firefly. No sound in space, nuclear powers ship, no faster than light engines, no transporters, no magic repairs to the ship, there are dirty and grimy cities contrasted with an upper class. Overall it's a spectacular show.
That said, I love Star Trek (I should hope that isn't a news flash to anyone here ). It may not me the most realistic show, but it is entertaining and well done. And they've obviously done something right if the show is this popular after 40 years, 5 spin offs, and 10 movies. Well, 11. Almost.
I basically agree with what Hitchiker said
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StarfleetCommand74656 Captain
Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 653 Location: On STV
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:15 pm |
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Everything possible except:
The universal translator
warp drive
the level of solidity on holodecks (and the EMH)
The humanoid appearance of all these aliens
The Nexus
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Ship_Desingz Ensign
Joined: 08 Jan 2007 Posts: 68 Location: Starfleet HQ
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:49 pm |
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StarfleetCommand74656 wrote: | Everything possible except:
The universal translator
warp drive
the level of solidity on holodecks (and the EMH)
The humanoid appearance of all these aliens
The Nexus |
you forgot another too, The Humanoids like Vulcans and cardasians talking our language.and i think the borg also,plus beaming to the surface and food replicators.
but in 1890 a guy once said "there is nothing more to be invented"
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jonathan95 Delta Prime
Joined: 29 Oct 2002 Posts: 1544 Location: UK Newcastle
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:33 pm |
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StarfleetCommand74656 wrote: | Everything possible except:
The universal translator
warp drive
the level of solidity on holodecks (and the EMH)
The humanoid appearance of all these aliens
The Nexus |
out of these I know in some scale some have been done.
we have a translator right now that we use in some places to translate other languages into our own,
mind you they are nothing like on trek and are actualy some times people sitting with a mic in front of them translating what they hear in an ear peace then saying it into the mic that is then sent to the people who dont understand. (has seen it on the new's before)
Warpdrive well they said traveling the speed of sound was impossible, Warp drive is a technical/teoretical possiblility if we can over come the whole power problem, phisicals all the time is adjusting take an article I was reading on the BBC about a dwarf star system having a super black whole now acording to the laws of physics that we know that black hole should have been pushed out of the dwarf star system but it hasnt.
so in the end nothing is impossible we just havnt done yet.
the level of solidity on holodecks (and the EMH, well I am not sure how far holograms have came along since I last heard about how they have managed to project a projection of a person in 3d in a special room, then again we dont know how new advances will take us.
The humanoid appearance of all these aliens - umm I havnt met any aliens to ask them why they look like us .......
but I suppose they in reality shouldnt look anything like this due to suttle differances in most likly there planet and how it has evolved over time.
The Nexus - I wouldnt know about this, again its a matter of what we know and understand. Astrologers have recently found a quazer that is made up of 3 black holes thought to be impossible before, or like the one I mentioned earler the vastness of space and new tech is alowing us each time we look up at the night sky to understand more of space, who knows what is still out side of our viewing that we havnt yet discovered or just understand, who says that dustclud made up of just gas is really what it seams.
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Ship_Desingz Ensign
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:53 pm |
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Another thing that you might not be able to not agree with is the time travel you can time travel becuase the effects are too risky if i go back change all these things it wont be the same, star trek could be real if i change something,if i go back in time to win the lottery and become rich for cheating.If there was a portal found to go back in time we would not use it becuase the risk it too high.
on the humanoid alien lifeforms im not disputing that they 100% dont looklike us but the chances are very unlikley for this in a parrell universe if that is what it is then this phenominon would work but you would see yourself not another person.There could be humanoid aliens becuase of the evolution of life we traveled through space to get to earth we could have left a presence so then life would grab onto that and evole to it.
Warp drive is impossible to believe basically we are saying that you can get to pluto maximum warp in a matter of seconds where at this rate you have to take over 200 years to get their,100 years ago there was no Car,no T.V No computer,but as soon as we evolved quick enough we though in the 60's star trek would be like 2006.Thats whats been happenning ever since in the 1890's and inventor was out of luck and he said "there is nothing left to be invented" now to me that sounds rubbish becuase there is no limit to where you can go, some people think that there is but really if you look at it for an instance of sport there is no limit in running, and fisical activities like that.
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robbiewebster Rear Admiral
Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 2594 Location: Rochester, New York
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:10 pm |
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Ship_Desingz wrote: | StarfleetCommand74656 wrote: | Everything possible except:
The universal translator
warp drive
the level of solidity on holodecks (and the EMH)
The humanoid appearance of all these aliens
The Nexus |
you forgot another too, The Humanoids like Vulcans and cardasians talking our language.and i think the borg also,plus beaming to the surface and food replicators.
but in 1890 a guy once said "there is nothing more to be invented" |
that goes along with universal translator, which I agree is very unrealistic.
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Ship_Desingz Ensign
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:15 pm |
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for all we know they could talk through there minds like mind meld but all the time.
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robbiewebster Rear Admiral
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:21 pm |
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Yea, I've always told myself that in the Trek universe, anything can happen. And as I said before, I'll never stop loving it.
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Ship_Desingz Ensign
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:44 pm |
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Cheers to that Plus its all for fun we can sit hhere and dispute it all day but its for fun and there to enjoy.
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robbiewebster Rear Admiral
Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 2594 Location: Rochester, New York
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Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:04 am |
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agreed
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StarfleetCommand74656 Captain
Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 653 Location: On STV
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Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:17 pm |
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Ship_Desingz wrote: | StarfleetCommand74656 wrote: | Everything possible except:
The universal translator
warp drive
the level of solidity on holodecks (and the EMH)
The humanoid appearance of all these aliens
The Nexus |
you forgot another too, The Humanoids like Vulcans and cardasians talking our language. They don't, thats the translator again .and i think the borg also,plus beaming to the surface and food replicators. Possible, replication technology is feasible with a massive piwer source and an intricate understanding of physics. It isnt just food from thin air
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:54 pm |
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Ship_Desingz wrote: | StarfleetCommand74656 wrote: | Everything possible except:
The universal translator
warp drive
the level of solidity on holodecks (and the EMH)
The humanoid appearance of all these aliens
The Nexus |
you forgot another too, The Humanoids like Vulcans and cardasians talking our language.and i think the borg also,plus beaming to the surface and food replicators.
but in 1890 a guy once said "there is nothing more to be invented" |
Actually, transporters are quite possible. They can already trnasport a lazer beam from one point another.
I think it might happen one day we can all transport from one point to another without much trouble.
The only thing i don't think is realistic in star trek is the fact there are so many alien species, and most are humanoid.
The rest, all as realistic as we can know.
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Ship_Desingz Ensign
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Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:31 pm |
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Yes we can transport a lazer beem through it but who would be the Guniea Pig to make sure there is no malfunction so then it is 99.9% safe.
the only thing this could be tested on is Man not Animals.
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lionhead Rear Admiral
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Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:57 pm |
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They would first test it on dead objects. would kinda obvious the thing doesn't work if a fork is transported and ends up as a knife .
Next would be animals still. as its obvious the thing doesn't work if the mouse that came out the other end starts walking backwards and roars
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StarfleetCommand74656 Captain
Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 653 Location: On STV
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Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:13 pm |
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If you like this sort of thing I suggest reading Lawrence Krauss's The Physics of Star Trek. It's really good.
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robbiewebster Rear Admiral
Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 2594 Location: Rochester, New York
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Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:55 pm |
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^That's a great book, I completely forgot about it.
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