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Republican_Man
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| Quote: | Religious Broadcaster Pat Robertson Predicts Horrific Terrorist Attack on U.S. in 2007
VIRGINIA BEACH, Virginia � Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson predicted Tuesday a horrific terrorist act on the United States that will result in "mass killing" late in 2007.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,240841,00.html |
I'm gonna watch it tonight at 9, just to see him say it for myself. It's better to watch it yourself, anyways.
I still like the guy, but I don't know about this. I mean, it's possible he may be right - he's made a few "God told me so" predictions that have come true in the past - but I hope this, as it likely is, is just a[nother] kooky idea.
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Lord Borg
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| Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:56 pm |
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Maybe, the thing to remember is, if you make enough "God told me so" 'predictions' sooner or later, they are going to 'come true'.
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| Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:01 pm |
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"God told me so"? If he says that, I'm gonna send him hate mail for embarassing my religion. God told him NOTHING. God is not a damn 8 ball you shake for advice. He wouldn't talk to Robertson and be like "Oh....BTW...heads up." *Building in (insert city) explodes*.
This guy is a moron. I liked him when he was insulting communists, but enough is enough.
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Leo Wyatt
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| Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:14 pm |
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I like Robinson but I don't if Ill believe in the prediction.
It like when Rod Parsely was on 20/20 a few years ago before 2000. He said that Jesus is coming back in the year of 2000 and didn't. So predictions is not always right. 
I will have to watch tonight.
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Republican_Man
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| Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:15 pm |
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I don't really feel that embarrassed when a Protestant says something. Maybe a little, but not really. I suppose it's logical to feel embarrassed, though, as a Christian, but Robertson? I don't know. I still like him, though, I know that.
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| Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:17 pm |
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I didn't say I felt embarrased when a Protestant speaks. I feel embarrassed when they say they believe God is telling them stuff.
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Republican_Man
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| Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:26 pm |
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When I was around 7 years old and my little sister was born I always stood by the idea that God told me that I would have a sister born on Easter Sunday, which she was. As a matter of fact, I still stand by that idea, whether another will believe in it or not.
I think it is most certainly possible to be told things by God. It's happened before. The only question is really a matter of frequency and validity and whether or not the individual is insane. Robertson...I don't think he's insane, but he has an unusual frequency for "predictions" as though he were trying to be a modern-day prophet.
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Lord Borg
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| Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:28 pm |
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The merical of God is not the debate here, while surely, one can actually hear from God, I think the point is, this person makes perdeictions all the time. I find it funny that no one remembers the ones that didnt come true...
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Republican_Man
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| Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:33 pm |
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| Lord Borg wrote: | | I find it funny that no one remembers the ones that didnt come true... |
The article I posted did. But isn't that the case for most "psychics" and so forth anyways? Their mispredictions, if you will, go hardly noticed while the media likes to focus on those that they get right.
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| Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:33 pm |
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| Leo Wyatt wrote: | | It like when Rod Parsely was on 20/20 a few years ago before 2000. He said that Jesus is coming back in the year of 2000 and didn't. So predictions is not always right. |
Maybe He did come back and is just biding His time before He makes His presence known to the majority of the world.
On the subject here, though, yeah, this fellow is just grabbing for attention. It is a calculated thing to say too. It's been over five years since 9/11, and as each year goes on we relax our guard a bit (which is fine to a degree--this fearmongering, like Pat Robertson is doing, does us no good at all). So it's not a stretch to predict an attack in 2007. I personally don't think one will happen, but I don't think his career will end on January 1, 2008 if there has been no attack.
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| Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:36 pm |
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we had a dream god told us to help make cats extinct 
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| Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:52 pm |
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| Republican_Man wrote: | When I was around 7 years old and my little sister was born I always stood by the idea that God told me that I would have a sister born on Easter Sunday, which she was. As a matter of fact, I still stand by that idea, whether another will believe in it or not.
That's not the same thing. Not by a long shot.
I think it is most certainly possible to be told things by God. It's happened before. The only question is really a matter of frequency and validity and whether or not the individual is insane. Robertson...I don't think he's insane, but he has an unusual frequency for "predictions" as though he were trying to be a modern-day prophet. |
It's possible to be inspired, maybe even led by God. But flat out conversation? Very few have had that honor and I doubt it's him. God wouldn't tell Robertson that he is allowing a terrible thing to happen in '07.
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Republican_Man
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| Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:58 pm |
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| Founder wrote: | | Republican_Man wrote: | When I was around 7 years old and my little sister was born I always stood by the idea that God told me that I would have a sister born on Easter Sunday, which she was. As a matter of fact, I still stand by that idea, whether another will believe in it or not.
That's not the same thing. Not by a long shot.
I think it is most certainly possible to be told things by God. It's happened before. The only question is really a matter of frequency and validity and whether or not the individual is insane. Robertson...I don't think he's insane, but he has an unusual frequency for "predictions" as though he were trying to be a modern-day prophet. |
It's possible to be inspired, maybe even led by God. But flat out conversation? Very few have had that honor and I doubt it's him. God wouldn't tell Robertson that he is allowing a terrible thing to happen in '07. |
Oh, but isn't it? I never said anything short of "I was told by God." Maybe it's different, but it's similar in that sense, albeit the subject matter is of gross difference. It's not necessarily conversation that you have to have to be told something or hinted something by God, as in when you're talking to him and he's talking to you, but it is possible to have messages, symbols, signals, and so forth, I believe, given to you by God. But only limited.
Robertson? Not so much, as his frequency shows, along with his incorrectness at times. I think something told him that - I don't believe him to be a liar - but God? I, too, find that implausible. If he's right, though (and I don't believe he is, but I do hope he isn't), then we'll find out come post-September.
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| Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:04 pm |
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My only irritation is that he's pretty much guessing and then blaming it on God.
"God told me (insert problem) would happen in '07."
What does he say when his other predictions didn't come true?
"Whoops, that wasn't God. It must have been that static I was picking up from the plate in my head."?
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| Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:21 pm |
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pat robertson -> donkeys hind end 'nuff said
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| Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:49 pm |
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Are you kidding? Someone should get his meds together for him, instead of trusting him to take them himself.
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| Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:34 am |
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I watched the segment and honestly, I don't know what to make of it. He really feels sincere, but he said that he could and hopes to be wrong. I recorded it, though, to get a second look, but I don't think it's as bad, after watching it myself, as I first thought; AP articles only give so much. So I don't know quite what to make of this yet. Not saying I believe him or anything, or that I think he got actual dialogue from God, but what I am saying is that I don't think what he said was as bad as the impression we got here.
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| Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:05 am |
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It bet he's going to say that the attack was caused by the US harboring Gay's and feminists.  I hate this guy.
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| Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:06 am |
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| WeAz wrote: | | It bet he's going to say that the attack was caused by the US harboring Gay's and feminists. I hate this guy. |
Nope, he actually did no such thing. He didn't even say what could be done to prevent it from happening per se. He said that all he felt we could do is turn away from sin and pray, but not that that would stop it from coming.
Tomorrow, if I have time, I'll take the segment and, obviously pulling out the emotion and expressions and all that (which are key in many cases, for you can only tell so much by text alone), type up what he said to give you the entire transcript, not some small portion. This wouldn't be to change anyone's minds, but to put into a better context what he said and all that to give a more accurate picture.
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| Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:26 am |
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Well, I'm surprised! He was the one who blamed Katrina on the US harboring Gays, and Feminists.
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| Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:36 am |
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Now that's just downright false. He claimed that Katrina was related to abortion (the "wholesale slaughter of unborn children"), not feminists and harboring gays. Not unless what I'm recalling and what I've found online is incorrect, and I don't think that's so.
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| Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:49 am |
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He did blame it on abortion. The news of him blaming it on homosexuals actually started out as a small internet hoax by a blog.
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| Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:55 am |
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| Puck wrote: | | He did blame it on abortion. The news of him blaming it on homosexuals actually started out as a small internet hoax by a blog. |
Okay, good. Thanks for confirming that, Puck.
I'm fully aware that Pat Robertson's said some stupid things in the past, things which are often disgraceful for Christians, Conservatives, and Republicans alike (albeit intertwined more often than not). And yet, in all he says and does, I still think he is a good man in his heart and can easily bring myself to watch his show every once and a while. I think he has some good things to say, despite his flaws, and overall, I like him.
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| Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:00 am |
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I agree. I think he honestly believes what he says, and believes he is right, so I suppose I must respect him. However, I don't agree with him at all.
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