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Puck
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 Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:18 pm Saddam Hussein to be Hanged Tonight |
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| Quote: | BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The Iraqi High Tribunal's appellate chamber on Tuesday upheld Saddam Hussein's death sentence in the Dujail massacre case, Judge Aref Shaheen announced.
Shaheen said the court's decision was the final word in the case. |
Apparently he will be hanged anytime within the next few weeks. Also, I was listening to the radio, and they said that the job for the person who actually performs the hanging is not filled yet, and the Iraqi government is apprarently hearing from many, many people who want to do it.
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:30 pm |
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Heard all about this. Good riddance is all I can say.
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Defiant
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| Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:00 pm |
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I agree with that decision, although I still don't agree with how it came about (that whole US military presence in Iraq thing).
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Puck
The Texan
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:28 am |
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| Quote: | Sources: Hussein to hang this weekend
Former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein is expected to be executed "this weekend," Bush administration officials told CNN on Thursday. "[Hussein] believes in his fate, and his only concern is the unity of the Iraqi people," chief defense attorney Khalil al-Dulaimi told CNN. |
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/28/hussein/index.html
May the Lord have mercy on his soul. I also hope that the day this happens, there is no rioting or violent uprisings.
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WeAz
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:04 am |
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| Quote: | | no rioting or violent uprisings. |
I think we'll see an increase in terror attacks.
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jose cuervo
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:35 pm |
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| WeAz wrote: | | Quote: | | no rioting or violent uprisings. |
I think we'll see an increase in terror attacks. |
oh definitely in iraq. the trial was in question anyway what with the appeal only taking 3 weeks before they came to their conclusion. i don't know, that seems a little quick when deciding between killing someone or not. i don't think saddam hussein should be killed because it will make him a martyr in some people's eyes and because killing anybody is unacceptable.
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Starbuck
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:58 pm |
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| jose cuervo wrote: | | WeAz wrote: | | Quote: | | no rioting or violent uprisings. |
I think we'll see an increase in terror attacks. |
oh definitely in iraq. the trial was in question anyway what with the appeal only taking 3 weeks before they came to their conclusion. i don't know, that seems a little quick when deciding between killing someone or not. i don't think saddam hussein should be killed because it will make him a martyr in some people's eyes and because killing anybody is unacceptable. |
I can see where you're comming from in some respect, but whats our other option? leave him alive?
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jose cuervo
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:00 pm |
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| Starbuck wrote: | | jose cuervo wrote: | | WeAz wrote: | | Quote: | | no rioting or violent uprisings. |
I think we'll see an increase in terror attacks. |
oh definitely in iraq. the trial was in question anyway what with the appeal only taking 3 weeks before they came to their conclusion. i don't know, that seems a little quick when deciding between killing someone or not. i don't think saddam hussein should be killed because it will make him a martyr in some people's eyes and because killing anybody is unacceptable. |
I can see where you're comming from in some respect, but whats our other option? leave him alive? |
yes. life imprisonment and rehabilitation would be a better punishment.
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Puck
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:09 pm |
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| jose cuervo wrote: | | Starbuck wrote: | | jose cuervo wrote: | | WeAz wrote: | | Quote: | | no rioting or violent uprisings. |
I think we'll see an increase in terror attacks. |
oh definitely in iraq. the trial was in question anyway what with the appeal only taking 3 weeks before they came to their conclusion. i don't know, that seems a little quick when deciding between killing someone or not. i don't think saddam hussein should be killed because it will make him a martyr in some people's eyes and because killing anybody is unacceptable. |
I can see where you're comming from in some respect, but whats our other option? leave him alive? |
yes. life imprisonment and rehabilitation would be a better punishment. |
I would agree, except for the fact that I believe trying to keep him alive endangers too many innocent lives.
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jose cuervo
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:13 pm |
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how would saddam being alive in prison endanger lives? he's getting older anyway. i would think that his execution might create more fury and endanger lives.
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Puck
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:16 pm |
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Well I could easily see either his followers trying to break him out, or enemies trying to break him out in order to kill him. Plus, keeping him alive could give his followers a reason to continue fighting.
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jose cuervo
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:20 pm |
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| Puck wrote: | | Well I could easily see either his followers trying to break him out, or enemies trying to break him out in order to kill him. Plus, keeping him alive could give his followers a reason to continue fighting. |
i don't know how he would break out of jail even with the help of his "followers". he hasn't been broken out yet. and keeping him alive would be less likely to fuel the fight than hanging him.
but we won't have to worry because instead, he's going to be killed.
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Republican_Man
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:13 pm |
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No article yet, but the FoxNews.com Breaking News bar just posted,
Saddam's Lawyers File Appeal in U.S. District Court
Oh, what joy! Stall it some more? I'd much rather have 2007 start anew, without this evil, evil mass murderer on this planet.
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Republican_Man
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:30 pm |
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But it looks like that's pointless! 
| Quote: | Iraqi Official Says Saddam Hussein Will Be Executed Within Hours
BAGHDAD, Iraq � Saddam Hussein's date with death appears to be just hours away. The former president of Iraq will be hanged before 10 p.m. ET Friday night (6 a.m. Saturday in Baghdad), a top Iraqi official has told the Associated Press.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,239783,00.html |
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IntrepidIsMe
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:36 pm |
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It seems so hypocritical. What a terrible dictator for executing so many people... let's kill him!
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Republican_Man
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:39 pm |
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| IntrepidIsMe wrote: | | It seems so hypocritical. What a terrible dictator for executing so many people... let's kill him! |
It's called poetic justice. I don't like the method, but it's what mass murderers deserve.
Difference is, he's guilty - they were innocent.
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WeAz
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:42 pm |
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Best thing is: It's going to be Videotaped! Youtube time!
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Puck
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:43 pm |
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Oh gosh I hope not. That is so morbid and disgusting. Unfortunately though, that's probably where it will end up  .
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Republican_Man
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:03 pm |
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There's only one reason for it to be taped: Not sadistic pleasure, but to give proof that he was killed. That's necessary for this.
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Puck
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:09 pm |
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| Republican_Man wrote: | | There's only one reason for it to be taped: Not sadistic pleasure, but to give proof that he was killed. That's necessary for this. |
I agree with that. Just saying its disturbing that it will probably end up on youtube and then be used as entertainment by individuals.
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Puck
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:22 pm |
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Can anyone at all find the full text of Saddam's goodbye letter? All I have is this excerpt:
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To the great nation, to the people of our country, and humanity,
Many of you have known the writer of this letter to be faithful, honest, caring for others, wise, of sound judgment, just, decisive, careful with the wealth of the people and the state ... and that his heart is big enough to embrace all without discrimination.
You have known your brother and leader very well and he never bowed to the despots and, in accordance with the wishes of those who loved him, remained a sword and a banner.
This is how you want your brother, son or leader to be ... and those who will lead you (in the future) should have the same qualifications.
Here, I offer my soul to God as a sacrifice, and if He wants, He will send it to heaven with the martyrs, or, He will postpone that ... so let us be patient and depend on Him against the unjust nations.
Remember that God has enabled you to become an example of love, forgiveness and brotherly coexistence ...
I call on you not to hate because hate does not leave a space for a person to be fair and it makes you blind and closes all doors of thinking and keeps away one from balanced thinking and making the right choice ...
I also call on you not to hate the peoples of the other countries that attacked us and differentiate between the decision-makers and people ...
Anyone who repents -- whether in Iraq or abroad -- you must forgive him ...
You should know that among the aggressors, there are people who support your struggle against the invaders, and some of them volunteered for the legal defense of prisoners, including Saddam Hussein ...
Some of these people wept profusely when they said goodbye to me...
Dear faithful people, I say goodbye to you, but I will be with the merciful God who helps those who take refuge in him and who will never disappoint any faithful, honest believer ... God is Great ... God is great ... Long live our nation ... Long live our great struggling people ... Long live Iraq, long live Iraq ... Long live Palestine ... Long live jihad and the mujahideen.
Saddam Hussein
President and Commander in Chief of the Iraqi Mujahid Armed Forces
Additional clarification note:
I have written this letter because the lawyers told me that the so-called criminal court -- established and named by the invaders -- will allow the so-called defendants the chance for a last word. But that court and its chief judge did not give us the chance to say a word, and issued its verdict without explanation and read out the sentence -- dictated by the invaders -- without presenting the evidence. I wanted the people to know this.
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http://cbs5.com/national/local_story_362010052.html
Anyone have the full length?
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Republican_Man
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:20 pm |
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As expected:
| Quote: | U.S. Judge Refuses to Block Saddam Hussein's Execution
WASHINGTON � A U.S. judge refused to stop Saddam Hussein's execution Friday, rejecting a last-minute court challenge by the former Iraqi president.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,239977,00.html |
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:53 pm |
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Wow, I never thought this moment would come. I had no idea the date was for today, so when I found out I was suprised.
Well, it's good to know that there will be one less dictator on this planet, but in the words Benjamin Sisko "That doesn't mean I have to drink a toast..." over his dead body. He was evil and deserves this, but like Sisko said, I won't celebrate.
Now when Castro dies? That's a different story. 
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Republican_Man
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:02 pm |
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| Founder wrote: | Wow, I never thought this moment would come. I had no idea the date was for today, so when I found out I was suprised.
Well, it's good to know that there will be one less dictator on this planet, but in the words Benjamin Sisko "That doesn't mean I have to drink a toast..." over his dead body. He was evil and deserves this, but like Sisko said, I won't celebrate.
Now when Castro dies? That's a different story. |
lol. Well, from your perspective it will be. From mine it'll be the exact same, with a great deal of joy. There really isn't a difference, only perhaps from perspective. Yet either way...
Fox News has just reported that Saddam has just reached the execution site and that the execution is about to begin!!!!
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Starbuck
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| Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:09 pm |
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don't sound so excited
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